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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 02:44:18
April 28 2012 02:42 GMT
#2441
On April 28 2012 11:41 StUfF wrote:
CLG dragon control/timing is bad as usual. Send 4 top as dragon spawns.

You say that as if it wasn't on purpose. What better time to take top tower than when the entire team won't be there?
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 28 2012 02:45 GMT
#2442
On April 28 2012 11:42 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 11:41 StUfF wrote:
CLG dragon control/timing is bad as usual. Send 4 top as dragon spawns.

You say that as if it wasn't on purpose. What better time to take top tower than when the entire team won't be there?


They didn't take the tower... they got to second tier tower then recalled straight away?
Jiji and SV didn't help take down first tier tower at all.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
April 28 2012 02:47 GMT
#2443
I'm pretty sure the Janna ult just saved CLG o.o
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 02:49:35
April 28 2012 02:49 GMT
#2444
4 kills for inhib + inhib tower + 2 nexus towers and 1 kill.

Wierd trade.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 28 2012 02:51 GMT
#2445
On April 28 2012 11:45 StUfF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 11:42 beefhamburger wrote:
On April 28 2012 11:41 StUfF wrote:
CLG dragon control/timing is bad as usual. Send 4 top as dragon spawns.

You say that as if it wasn't on purpose. What better time to take top tower than when the entire team won't be there?


They didn't take the tower... they got to second tier tower then recalled straight away?
Jiji and SV didn't help take down first tier tower at all.

Their goal was first tier tower, which they got, and they decided to take 2nd tower since EG was still bot/mid. They would have gotten it/more damage on it if EG decided to chase them off by going top, but instead EG went to roll down middle towers which caused them all to recall.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 28 2012 02:59 GMT
#2446
On April 28 2012 11:32 Abenson wrote:
I still think Kennen is the most retarded AP champ.
How to lane against him?>


Viktor is strong vs Kennen.

You outpush him, get good harass, and if he tries to lighting rush you you can lay down stun and full combo and ruin him.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 28 2012 02:59 GMT
#2447
On April 28 2012 11:51 beefhamburger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 11:45 StUfF wrote:
On April 28 2012 11:42 beefhamburger wrote:
On April 28 2012 11:41 StUfF wrote:
CLG dragon control/timing is bad as usual. Send 4 top as dragon spawns.

You say that as if it wasn't on purpose. What better time to take top tower than when the entire team won't be there?


They didn't take the tower... they got to second tier tower then recalled straight away?
Jiji and SV didn't help take down first tier tower at all.

Their goal was first tier tower, which they got, and they decided to take 2nd tower since EG was still bot/mid. They would have gotten it/more damage on it if EG decided to chase them off by going top, but instead EG went to roll down middle towers which caused them all to recall.


I don't understand your point. I don't imagine I know what they are thinking but it was a bad play, why are you trying to justify it?

CLG were way ahead, they could have denied dragon/taken it themselves if they were ready for it, they weren't. You don't need 4 players to take a tower if they knew that their whole team was taking dragon (see TF working his way to nexus).
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 28 2012 03:03 GMT
#2448
Any reason they cover up the summoner spells? Seems silly to me.
It's your boy Guzma!
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 28 2012 03:03 GMT
#2449
On April 28 2012 12:03 Requizen wrote:
Any reason they cover up the summoner spells? Seems silly to me.


To stop stream cheating. Knowing your opponents summoner spells is pretty strong.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 28 2012 03:04 GMT
#2450
So EG no longer has any of their original members save Salce? Kinda weird for me to see them without Dyrus, Dan, or Westrice.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 28 2012 03:09 GMT
#2451
On April 28 2012 12:04 overt wrote:
So EG no longer has any of their original members save Salce? Kinda weird for me to see them without Dyrus, Dan, or Westrice.

Doublelift: Went to Curse end of Season 1 because he didn't want to support, then to CLG
Dan: Got kicked and then went to 4Not, now focusing on casting
Dyrus: Gone to TSM
Westrice: He was considered too weak of a top laner and got kicked for Unstoppable from v8

The thing is, they need 3 of their original members to keep their Season 2 Circuit points. With Dyrus+Dan permanently gone, if they drop Westrice then they lose all circuit points.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 03:12:53
April 28 2012 03:11 GMT
#2452
On April 28 2012 12:09 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 12:04 overt wrote:
So EG no longer has any of their original members save Salce? Kinda weird for me to see them without Dyrus, Dan, or Westrice.

Doublelift: Went to Curse end of Season 1 because he didn't want to support, then to CLG
Dan: Got kicked and then went to 4Not, now focusing on casting
Dyrus: Gone to TSM
Westrice: He was considered too weak of a top laner and got kicked for Unstoppable from v8

The thing is, they need 3 of their original members to keep their Season 2 Circuit points. With Dyrus+Dan permanently gone, if they drop Westrice then they lose all circuit points.


They really should. This is a completely different team. I wonder if they can keep him as a sub and not lose points? 'Cause they might just try and do that until Westrice decides to play for a new team or retire for good.

edit: Interesting CLG strat. Saint never plays Amumu lol.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
April 28 2012 03:17 GMT
#2453
On April 28 2012 12:11 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 12:09 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On April 28 2012 12:04 overt wrote:
So EG no longer has any of their original members save Salce? Kinda weird for me to see them without Dyrus, Dan, or Westrice.

Doublelift: Went to Curse end of Season 1 because he didn't want to support, then to CLG
Dan: Got kicked and then went to 4Not, now focusing on casting
Dyrus: Gone to TSM
Westrice: He was considered too weak of a top laner and got kicked for Unstoppable from v8

The thing is, they need 3 of their original members to keep their Season 2 Circuit points. With Dyrus+Dan permanently gone, if they drop Westrice then they lose all circuit points.


They really should. This is a completely different team. I wonder if they can keep him as a sub and not lose points? 'Cause they might just try and do that until Westrice decides to play for a new team or retire for good.

edit: Interesting CLG strat. Saint never plays Amumu lol.


Saint has been practicing amumu for at least 2 weeks in korea.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 03:18:06
April 28 2012 03:17 GMT
#2454
Weird picks from CLG are they taking this seriously? Amumu, Orianna (does Jiji play Orinna?) and even Doublelift (who is not a fan of Graves). Didn't catch the bans, but I would think there were other options open. I guess they're practicing other champs which is good.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 28 2012 03:18 GMT
#2455
On April 28 2012 11:59 StUfF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 11:51 beefhamburger wrote:
On April 28 2012 11:45 StUfF wrote:
On April 28 2012 11:42 beefhamburger wrote:
On April 28 2012 11:41 StUfF wrote:
CLG dragon control/timing is bad as usual. Send 4 top as dragon spawns.

You say that as if it wasn't on purpose. What better time to take top tower than when the entire team won't be there?


They didn't take the tower... they got to second tier tower then recalled straight away?
Jiji and SV didn't help take down first tier tower at all.

Their goal was first tier tower, which they got, and they decided to take 2nd tower since EG was still bot/mid. They would have gotten it/more damage on it if EG decided to chase them off by going top, but instead EG went to roll down middle towers which caused them all to recall.


I don't understand your point. I don't imagine I know what they are thinking but it was a bad play, why are you trying to justify it?

CLG were way ahead, they could have denied dragon/taken it themselves if they were ready for it, they weren't. You don't need 4 players to take a tower if they knew that their whole team was taking dragon (see TF working his way to nexus).

I can't say for certain I know what they were thinking either, but it wasn't a bad move by any means. And you can't compare a level 11 team vs a late game TF at taking towers. Who knows.
Lancer723
Profile Joined September 2011
United States486 Posts
April 28 2012 03:20 GMT
#2456
On April 28 2012 12:17 BlackMagister wrote:
Weird picks from CLG are they taking this seriously? Amumu, Orianna (does Jiji play Orinna?) and even Doublelift (who is not a fan of Graves). Didn't catch the bans, but I would think there were other options open. I guess they're practicing other champs which is good.


I think jiji played a really good orianna at the height of her brokeness, haven't seen him play her since though.
LoL ID - Lancer723 Gold III
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 28 2012 03:20 GMT
#2457
On April 28 2012 12:17 BlackMagister wrote:
Weird picks from CLG are they taking this seriously? Amumu, Orianna (does Jiji play Orinna?) and even Doublelift (who is not a fan of Graves). Didn't catch the bans, but I would think there were other options open. I guess they're practicing other champs which is good.


I've seen SV practice Amumu in solo queue but it's a total AoE/Aoe disable team.

Amumu ult, orianna ult/slow, Sona ult, Kennen ult. If they get a good engagement they'll wreck them.
Badly timed kill timing on HotShot by Wings, he landed Q, flash ulted but was stunned under tower before he could use the follow up Q and/or it ran out of time.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
April 28 2012 03:21 GMT
#2458
On April 28 2012 12:17 BlackMagister wrote:
Weird picks from CLG are they taking this seriously? Amumu, Orianna (does Jiji play Orinna?) and even Doublelift (who is not a fan of Graves). Didn't catch the bans, but I would think there were other options open. I guess they're practicing other champs which is good.


Jiji was like the best orianna player when she was released. You basically had to ban Orianna or else jiji would crush you. Saint has been practicing amumu and I think chauster said he wanted saint to be able to play amumu at tournement level.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 03:24:51
April 28 2012 03:24 GMT
#2459
I'm late to the discussion but...
I personally think that spec mode won't hurt streamers too much, when Ret started streaming in BWthe game had replays and people watched his stream anyway for his comments/reactions/music and most importantly - to see how does good player's point of view look like.

Also if you guys wanna test it pre-release it is available on PBE

Currently the 5 featured matches are:
- a normal 4v5 game
- a custom 1v1 game
- a custom 5v5 game
- 2 games vs bots

gotta love how competitive is PBE!
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 28 2012 03:25 GMT
#2460
EG insta kill sona waiting in ward vision.
CLG flubs their ults, landing them pretty much only on mundo, and kennen ult gets blown out by janna. EG clean up easy.
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