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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 21 2012 01:34 GMT
#381
This is sort of late, but to those suggesting that Riot hit the CDR on blue instead of the regen, I'd like to point out that's a solution that's WAY harder to balance because of how cutting the CDR would have a pretty noticeable effect on early game jungling speeds. They have less to worry about that when balancing the mana regen, because with a chunk of the regen shifted into flat regen, most junglers' mana demands are covered by blue.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
March 21 2012 01:46 GMT
#382
On March 21 2012 10:33 CeriseCherries wrote:
ok i cant tell if phreak is trolling when he says he plays Lulu as a jungler... i want to say he is... especially since he built a madreds razor but I dont know if he would tacitly troll when some idiot is going to take him seriously


http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=22259485#post22259485

He was joking, but sometimes it's hard to tell since his builds are usually questionable.
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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 21 2012 01:47 GMT
#383
On March 21 2012 10:33 CeriseCherries wrote:
ok i cant tell if phreak is trolling when he says he plays Lulu as a jungler... i want to say he is... especially since he built a madreds razor but I dont know if he would tacitly troll when some idiot is going to take him seriously


His voice sounded jokingly but yeah. Riot probably just found it funny since it's a running gag so allowed it, but some moron I'm sure will actually take him seriously.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 21 2012 01:50 GMT
#384
On March 21 2012 10:47 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 10:33 CeriseCherries wrote:
ok i cant tell if phreak is trolling when he says he plays Lulu as a jungler... i want to say he is... especially since he built a madreds razor but I dont know if he would tacitly troll when some idiot is going to take him seriously


His voice sounded jokingly but yeah. Riot probably just found it funny since it's a running gag so allowed it, but some moron I'm sure will actually take him seriously.

I was expecting him to say 'Just kidding' or something after, but it never came.

I'm kinda surprised to be honest, I mean, I knew it was a joke, but aren't these things supposed to be aimed at people just learning the game or about the champion for the first time?

What will new players who don't get the running joke think?
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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
March 21 2012 01:58 GMT
#385
On March 21 2012 10:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 10:47 BlackPaladin wrote:
On March 21 2012 10:33 CeriseCherries wrote:
ok i cant tell if phreak is trolling when he says he plays Lulu as a jungler... i want to say he is... especially since he built a madreds razor but I dont know if he would tacitly troll when some idiot is going to take him seriously


His voice sounded jokingly but yeah. Riot probably just found it funny since it's a running gag so allowed it, but some moron I'm sure will actually take him seriously.

I was expecting him to say 'Just kidding' or something after, but it never came.

I'm kinda surprised to be honest, I mean, I knew it was a joke, but aren't these things supposed to be aimed at people just learning the game or about the champion for the first time?

What will new players who don't get the running joke think?

They will at least try her in the jungle and actively see if it does or doesn't fail. Better to help people improve their thinking and actually try new stuff than just ALWAYS playing a champion in only one role. And besides, I doubt most people just starting to learn the game even know what jungling is XD. If people find her more fun to be played as a jungler than as a support, then job well done, I'd say.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
March 21 2012 02:07 GMT
#386
On March 21 2012 02:00 bmn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 01:30 arb wrote:
On March 21 2012 00:30 ihasaKAROT wrote:
On March 21 2012 00:18 GoSuChicken wrote:
no fiora nerf ((


Theres no need to nerf fiora, for she is not broken. Shes a grand duelist, shes gonna beat most toplaners in a duel. She has no escape from a teamfight and is focussed down easily. In other words, shes a female XinZao and working as intended

Aside from fiora i dont think ive ever seen a top lane hero im actually afraid of as Riven.

That bitch absolutely terrifys me.


I've yet to lose a lane to Riven as Mordekaiser. Worst I've done was to go even early on (first few levels we'd kill each other), but she couldn't kill me after level 6, and I'd usually kill the tower pretty soon after that.

It's not easy, though, and I'd not win the lane if I didn't play both Morde and Riven and know how to harrass without getting caught by Riven's W. (You need to wait until she has used either Q or W on minions. If she doesn't, that's fine, she'll miss out on too much farm eventually, and you harrass her while she's farming anyway.)


Why wouldn't riven just last hit with auto attacks and then E -> Q -> W you try to last hit..?
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danana
Profile Joined March 2011
United States321 Posts
March 21 2012 02:10 GMT
#387
I just don't think an official video like the champion spotlight is the right place to make a joking comment without making it clear that it was a joke (adding "just kidding!" would probably solve it, but then if anyone found a way to make jungle lulu work they'd have to deal with the champion spotlight saying jungle lulu's a joke...). obviously it isn't a big deal at all but it still seems like a weird place to make that kind of joke.

anyway, what do you guys think of lulu so far? (she's available now, right?) the thought of playing lulu is what's motivating me to get through finals!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 21 2012 02:18 GMT
#388
tabbed out for like 5 seconds and TSM scored an ace

what the fuck
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nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
March 21 2012 02:19 GMT
#389
On March 21 2012 11:18 arb wrote:
tabbed out for like 5 seconds and TSM scored an ace

what the fuck


chaox stronk
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
March 21 2012 02:22 GMT
#390
I play Ashe. Once I'm maxed, do I build double PD, or berserker greaves and one PD?
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 02:23:25
March 21 2012 02:22 GMT
#391
Yeah Chaox was beastly that match.

EDIT: Don't think double PD is a good idea.
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bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 02:30:14
March 21 2012 02:26 GMT
#392
On March 21 2012 11:07 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 02:00 bmn wrote:
On March 21 2012 01:30 arb wrote:
On March 21 2012 00:30 ihasaKAROT wrote:
On March 21 2012 00:18 GoSuChicken wrote:
no fiora nerf ((


Theres no need to nerf fiora, for she is not broken. Shes a grand duelist, shes gonna beat most toplaners in a duel. She has no escape from a teamfight and is focussed down easily. In other words, shes a female XinZao and working as intended

Aside from fiora i dont think ive ever seen a top lane hero im actually afraid of as Riven.

That bitch absolutely terrifys me.


I've yet to lose a lane to Riven as Mordekaiser. Worst I've done was to go even early on (first few levels we'd kill each other), but she couldn't kill me after level 6, and I'd usually kill the tower pretty soon after that.

It's not easy, though, and I'd not win the lane if I didn't play both Morde and Riven and know how to harrass without getting caught by Riven's W. (You need to wait until she has used either Q or W on minions. If she doesn't, that's fine, she'll miss out on too much farm eventually, and you harrass her while she's farming anyway.)


Why wouldn't riven just last hit with auto attacks and then E -> Q -> W you try to last hit..?


That's probably the right way to play it as Riven. Pre-3 though, she's a lot less scary; and post-3, I don't stand next to her without a charged shield unless she just blew her CDs. And if I see Riven being that passive, I'll get an E or two in to harrass her when there's enough minions to be safe, and I'll use W to punish her more if she doesn't react.

I'll stay at a safe distance whenever she's full health; once she's < ~2/3rd I'm not really running from trades, as long as my shield is up. (If she bursts you and retreats, she eats another E on the way back; if she stays, a full QWE.)

In all honesty, though, I'm low ELO, and the dynamics may change completely with better players. It was also fairly close, had I been behind in CS or kills, she would've won trades hands down. You also have to fight around minions to have a chance.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 21 2012 02:51 GMT
#393
On March 21 2012 11:22 wunsun wrote:
I play Ashe. Once I'm maxed, do I build double PD, or berserker greaves and one PD?

if you're maxed out on an AD carry you can always sell boots for another PD
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 03:13:58
March 21 2012 03:13 GMT
#394
On March 21 2012 11:22 wunsun wrote:
I play Ashe. Once I'm maxed, do I build double PD, or berserker greaves and one PD?


Only time I would ever build a PD is if the enemy team had no AP carry and no hard CC. Otherwise it's always better to get BV or QSS. And since the enemy team will almost always have an AP carry and CC...

edit:
Although fun fact, IE + 2 PDs yields a lot more DPS than IE, BT, 1 PD but since every AD carry usually needs life steal double PD doesn't work too well.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 21 2012 03:15 GMT
#395
I'm pretty sure he's asking about like the super end game scenario where you already have berserks, IE, BT, PD, LW, and QSS and you already have double elixir and you still have gold left over. In those situations AD carries seem to have sold their boots for a second PD.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 03:17:28
March 21 2012 03:17 GMT
#396
Man. Udyr so much fun.

used to be awful at him but now he's kinda my go to character when i want a win >_>

aka my: who i play when i want to climb back into gold rank baha
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
March 21 2012 03:40 GMT
#397
So. wait... Did this patch add replays?

I patching now and I just saw it go through like three files called "Replay_UI".

Riot trolls me?
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 21 2012 04:01 GMT
#398
Is it just me or Reginald make some very terrible decision. Just watching Dyrus stream right now, and Reginald(Ahri) call out for Oddone(Noc) just go straight up and try to kill a really tanky GP near the enemy base O_O. Turned out they cant and Reginal die in the process + top tower
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 04:05:46
March 21 2012 04:05 GMT
#399
On March 21 2012 12:40 iCanada wrote:
So. wait... Did this patch add replays?

I patching now and I just saw it go through like three files called "Replay_UI".

Riot trolls me?

They've been saying they're working on adding replays for a year, maybe more. Wouldn't surprise me to see some files get added here and there.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 21 2012 04:08 GMT
#400
Link to stream /vods?
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