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The Champions Feedback Thread

General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it.
~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
April 25 2012 12:55 GMT
#3761
I don't even think either mig team will be in the finals, let alone both
True skill comes without effort.
ThePimpImp
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada51 Posts
April 25 2012 12:57 GMT
#3762
saint got crushed by flashes once he locked on twisted advance in g2. it happened at least 3 times.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 12:59:15
April 25 2012 12:57 GMT
#3763
On April 25 2012 21:55 robertdinh wrote:
I don't even think either mig team will be in the finals, let alone both

Well I can safely say then I will never ask for your advice on anything lol
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 25 2012 12:57 GMT
#3764
On April 25 2012 21:55 robertdinh wrote:
I don't even think either mig team will be in the finals, let alone both

This is the Elo Hell troll. Ignore and move on.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 12:59:26
April 25 2012 12:58 GMT
#3765
On April 25 2012 21:57 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 21:55 robertdinh wrote:
I don't even think either mig team will be in the finals, let alone both

Well I can safely say then I will never ask for your advice on anything on anything lol


Remember this moment... when xenics storm and team op crush the mig teams :D

On April 25 2012 21:57 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 21:55 robertdinh wrote:
I don't even think either mig team will be in the finals, let alone both

This is the Elo Hell troll. Ignore and move on.


Leave the insults out of this please... and stop trying to do other people's thinking for them.
True skill comes without effort.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22517 Posts
April 25 2012 12:59 GMT
#3766
Fnatic getting out of the group stage was already a suprise to me. Beating OP would be a major upset.

And i dont think anyone on CLG really is to blame for these 2 loses. Both teams they all didnt have the presence they should have. They got outplayed both times esp the second game where they even managed to get a big lead and then just threw it away with little mistake after mistake.
I guess the question is if this is the best CLG can do atm or if they just had a really bad offday.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
April 25 2012 12:59 GMT
#3767
On April 25 2012 21:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 21:41 luckybeni2 wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:21 luckybeni2 wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:17 cvt wrote:
Koreans making foreigners look silly... what a surprise :p.

It has mostly to do with CLG playing pretty bad. In Korea they haven't been playing very well in general. There was no reason for HS to suicide 2 times in 2 minutes like that or to pick all those stupid fights.

They're getting straight up outplayed, not so much to do with any sort of issue they have on stage. Leading up to IPL4 they lost to like everyone in scrims.

They played 5 games in Korea and in 2 of them they had unwinnable team compositions. Chogath was basically a useless pick too and HS played really bad in general missing a lot of cs and later losing the teamfights because he whent out alone. Bot lane is basically impossible to win for CLG anyway even against far worse players so they just tried to farm to lategame. DL suicided too to catch mundo she dove in 5v1. That is simply bad play. When you already are down 4v5 you dont sacrifice your ad carry to maybe finish off a bruiser. That cost them baron and then HS ran out to river in midlane ALONE with no turrets anywhere near and got killed of course and DL did the same at botlane shortly after. After that CLG had pretty much lost all outer towers, dragon, baron and shortly after that the game.
Before the dragon fight the game was pretty ok for them. Vayne was slowly getting to the point where she was getting better than Graves even if she gets outfarmed, mid Kennen is extremely strong in teamfights(if he doesn't forget his hourglas) and jungle was pretty fed too. The only teamfights that happened though were after mig had baron and all towers.

They were 4k gold down and 3 towers down before the dragon fight even though talon got absolutely dumped on and was 45 cs down at one point. After that point the game was over pretty much yeah, and nothing CLG did that looked like bad play really mattered.

And uhh, I was talking about SCRIMS. Hotshott said they lost 16 times in a row to emfire. If you think this was them having an offday/bad picks and not the superiority of the korean teams (at least CLG tier teams), you're gonna be in for a surprise.

4k gold isn't that big of a deal and I do think them having to live together makes them play way worse. I actually don't like CLG because they mostly seem like douchebags but if you say none of the bad play then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
April 25 2012 13:00 GMT
#3768
On April 25 2012 21:38 HazMat wrote:
Pretty obvious that CLG hated living with each other. I remember Doublelift saying something like that in an interview. It's why they're not going to get a gaming house in the USA.


I think he said that he doesn't like living with so many people. I don't think they hate living with each other but at the same time I think they don't feel like living together long-term.
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 13:04:11
April 25 2012 13:01 GMT
#3769
On April 25 2012 22:00 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 21:38 HazMat wrote:
Pretty obvious that CLG hated living with each other. I remember Doublelift saying something like that in an interview. It's why they're not going to get a gaming house in the USA.


I think he said that he doesn't like living with so many people. I don't think they hate living with each other but at the same time I think they don't feel like living together long-term.


Before korea many of them considered a gaming house in the US to be possible even though in reality they would never have gotten all 5 players to agree to it as a permanent arrangement, after staying in korea none of them wanna live with hotshot.

If you even knew half of the crap that hotshotgg and becca pulled in korea you would be appalled.
True skill comes without effort.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
April 25 2012 13:03 GMT
#3770
On April 25 2012 22:01 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 22:00 Woony wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:38 HazMat wrote:
Pretty obvious that CLG hated living with each other. I remember Doublelift saying something like that in an interview. It's why they're not going to get a gaming house in the USA.


I think he said that he doesn't like living with so many people. I don't think they hate living with each other but at the same time I think they don't feel like living together long-term.


Before korea many of them considered a gaming house in the US to be possible, after korea none of them wanna live with hotshot.


Doesn't really suprise if you have watched hotshots stream. His sucess went to his head.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 25 2012 13:07 GMT
#3771
On April 25 2012 21:59 luckybeni2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 21:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:41 luckybeni2 wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:22 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:21 luckybeni2 wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:17 cvt wrote:
Koreans making foreigners look silly... what a surprise :p.

It has mostly to do with CLG playing pretty bad. In Korea they haven't been playing very well in general. There was no reason for HS to suicide 2 times in 2 minutes like that or to pick all those stupid fights.

They're getting straight up outplayed, not so much to do with any sort of issue they have on stage. Leading up to IPL4 they lost to like everyone in scrims.

They played 5 games in Korea and in 2 of them they had unwinnable team compositions. Chogath was basically a useless pick too and HS played really bad in general missing a lot of cs and later losing the teamfights because he whent out alone. Bot lane is basically impossible to win for CLG anyway even against far worse players so they just tried to farm to lategame. DL suicided too to catch mundo she dove in 5v1. That is simply bad play. When you already are down 4v5 you dont sacrifice your ad carry to maybe finish off a bruiser. That cost them baron and then HS ran out to river in midlane ALONE with no turrets anywhere near and got killed of course and DL did the same at botlane shortly after. After that CLG had pretty much lost all outer towers, dragon, baron and shortly after that the game.
Before the dragon fight the game was pretty ok for them. Vayne was slowly getting to the point where she was getting better than Graves even if she gets outfarmed, mid Kennen is extremely strong in teamfights(if he doesn't forget his hourglas) and jungle was pretty fed too. The only teamfights that happened though were after mig had baron and all towers.

They were 4k gold down and 3 towers down before the dragon fight even though talon got absolutely dumped on and was 45 cs down at one point. After that point the game was over pretty much yeah, and nothing CLG did that looked like bad play really mattered.

And uhh, I was talking about SCRIMS. Hotshott said they lost 16 times in a row to emfire. If you think this was them having an offday/bad picks and not the superiority of the korean teams (at least CLG tier teams), you're gonna be in for a surprise.

4k gold isn't that big of a deal and I do think them having to live together makes them play way worse. I actually don't like CLG because they mostly seem like douchebags but if you say none of the bad play then you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

It's a huge deal when it's 20 minutes in and the gold pools is around 20k for each team. Good teams make other teams look bad, and frankly, before the dragon they didn't really play that bad at all, MiG just played better and took advantage of certain situations and also farmed better.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 25 2012 14:40 GMT
#3772
Mig picked a early-mid game oriented comp. CLG was good at the start but they played badly when i matter the most. If they can hold on to their lead for another 10 mins They would have won. From that dragon/baron melt down, Mig just got so much more gold and Talon was suddenly become deadly.
Vayne was so far behind at that point when DL didn't event finish IE while Graves got PD and BT.
Terran
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
April 25 2012 14:40 GMT
#3773
i couldn't watch today's match. Who won today? And what all the drama about hotshot?
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 25 2012 14:41 GMT
#3774
On April 25 2012 23:40 sharky246 wrote:
i couldn't watch today's match. Who won today? And what all the drama about hotshot?

read op to see results
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
April 25 2012 14:55 GMT
#3775
On April 25 2012 23:41 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 23:40 sharky246 wrote:
i couldn't watch today's match. Who won today? And what all the drama about hotshot?

read op to see results

OP only shows the bans/picks, not the team that won. And i am dying to know what happened to hotshot.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 25 2012 14:56 GMT
#3776
There's a spoiler under the bans/picks listing the Ro8 results.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22517 Posts
April 25 2012 15:23 GMT
#3777
On April 25 2012 23:55 sharky246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 23:41 emucxg wrote:
On April 25 2012 23:40 sharky246 wrote:
i couldn't watch today's match. Who won today? And what all the drama about hotshot?

read op to see results

OP only shows the bans/picks, not the team that won. And i am dying to know what happened to hotshot.


Nothing happend with hotshot. Game 1 he played olaf but wasnt able to push riven despite having the stronger champ. Game 2 was his usual Cho. big but utterly useless when it matters.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
April 25 2012 15:27 GMT
#3778
On April 26 2012 00:23 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 23:55 sharky246 wrote:
On April 25 2012 23:41 emucxg wrote:
On April 25 2012 23:40 sharky246 wrote:
i couldn't watch today's match. Who won today? And what all the drama about hotshot?

read op to see results

OP only shows the bans/picks, not the team that won. And i am dying to know what happened to hotshot.


Nothing happend with hotshot. Game 1 he played olaf but wasnt able to push riven despite having the stronger champ. Game 2 was his usual Cho. big but utterly useless when it matters.


His cho in game 2 started well but it really seemed like he/clg fell apart later with him getting caught 5v1 2 times. Can't wait to see game 1 but there is almost no info on where we can watch it.
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
April 25 2012 15:34 GMT
#3779
^no i am not talking about the game. I am talking about "the crap that hotshotgg and becca pulled in korea" thing.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
April 25 2012 15:48 GMT
#3780
On April 26 2012 00:34 sharky246 wrote:
^no i am not talking about the game. I am talking about "the crap that hotshotgg and becca pulled in korea" thing.


no idea about that, whatever it is Chaox is probably getting drunk over it
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