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The Champions Feedback Thread

General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it.
~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 25 2012 12:26 GMT
#3721
On April 25 2012 21:25 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 21:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:24 parkin wrote:
I think hotshot lost both the games for clg. they should replace him imo.

Dumb statement. Saint easily played the worst of them all.

honestly they all played bad

Chauster was okay.
The rest....
A backwards poet writes inverse.
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 12:27:59
April 25 2012 12:26 GMT
#3722
On April 25 2012 21:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 21:24 parkin wrote:
I think hotshot lost both the games for clg. they should replace him imo.

Dumb statement. Saint easily played the worst of them all.

Don't think you can blame the outcome of the games on a single person - no one on CLG made a good impression today. Saint and Hotshot got caught a lot, Chauster's Sona in game 1 was a no-show and a major factor in bot lane getting crushed, jiji's Kennen definitely needs polishing etc etc.

Maybe we'll see Hotshot and Chauster switch roles in the future, though, if the team requires special champs to be played - his small pool of playable champions really comes to bite CLG in the back.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 25 2012 12:27 GMT
#3723
I just noticed the difference in body language between MoleTorch, pretty still, and Loco who's moving a lot while he talks. Add to that the jackets and the mic and you've got a pretty big contrast here.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 25 2012 12:27 GMT
#3724
Even after Cho "won" top lane, he was pretty much a nonfactor because of how hard Graves won bot lane and that HotShot always builds GP10 items when the MiG blaze just rolled through with a very early game orientated team.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 25 2012 12:27 GMT
#3725
Moonbear when are you going to learn Korean so you can translate these interviews?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
April 25 2012 12:27 GMT
#3726
On April 25 2012 21:26 DragoonTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 21:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:24 parkin wrote:
I think hotshot lost both the games for clg. they should replace him imo.

Dumb statement. Saint easily played the worst of them all.

Don't think you can blame the outcome of the games on a single person - no one on CLG made a good impression today. Maybe we'll see Hotshot and Chauster switch roles in the future, though, if the team requires special champs to be played.


well, the picks didn't have to do anything with their loss. they just suddenly started to play really bad.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 12:28:07
April 25 2012 12:27 GMT
#3727
On April 25 2012 21:26 DragoonTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 21:24 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:24 parkin wrote:
I think hotshot lost both the games for clg. they should replace him imo.

Dumb statement. Saint easily played the worst of them all.

Don't think you can blame the outcome of the games on a single person - no one on CLG made a good impression today. Maybe we'll see Hotshot and Chauster switch roles in the future, though, if the team requires special champs to be played.

Just saying saint's mistakes were the most noticeable and at a time where it mattered most. After his mistakes the game was basically over. Biggest was that initiate at dragon. I honestly have no idea what he was thinking and had he waited for jiji's ult as well as DL being in a better position that could have been completely different.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 25 2012 12:27 GMT
#3728
On April 25 2012 21:19 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 21:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:17 DanielZKlein wrote:
You could really feel CLG falling apart in the end of that game. That was 100% nerves getting to them. Like a friend of mine said, it's like they lost 1000 ELO in the middle of this game.

Except MiG was outplaying them after the laneswapping ended. They were 4k gold ahead and 3 towers ahead by the time that awful dragon fight happened. CLG just lost harder than they should have is what you could say.


Game turning was the bad dives mid and top.


to me, I thought it was when Blaze stole the blue on to graves, pretty much killing DLift's early advantage, not that any of these things are exclusive of one another, it was really sad to see their early plan work out perfectly only to dry up so quickly.
Carrilord has arrived.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
April 25 2012 12:28 GMT
#3729
On April 25 2012 21:27 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 21:19 cascades wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:17 DanielZKlein wrote:
You could really feel CLG falling apart in the end of that game. That was 100% nerves getting to them. Like a friend of mine said, it's like they lost 1000 ELO in the middle of this game.

Except MiG was outplaying them after the laneswapping ended. They were 4k gold ahead and 3 towers ahead by the time that awful dragon fight happened. CLG just lost harder than they should have is what you could say.


Game turning was the bad dives mid and top.


to me, I thought it was when Blaze stole the blue on to graves, pretty much killing DLift's early advantage, not that any of these things are exclusive of one another, it was really sad to see their early plan work out perfectly only to dry up so quickly.


IMO CLG was in a better position until that awful dragon fight happened
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
April 25 2012 12:29 GMT
#3730
On April 25 2012 21:27 HazMat wrote:
Moonbear when are you going to learn Korean so you can translate these interviews?

Yea wtf moonbear. What kind of journalist are you? Jesus...
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
April 25 2012 12:29 GMT
#3731
The Korean netizens are going crazy right now haha. So much yankee talk. xD
spacemonkey4eve
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States267 Posts
April 25 2012 12:29 GMT
#3732
ROFL @ locodoco caught looking at his phone.

Also caught earlier during interview on mic: "Can I go to the bathroom?"

He does not give a fuck~
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
April 25 2012 12:29 GMT
#3733
On April 25 2012 21:27 HazMat wrote:
Moonbear when are you going to learn Korean so you can translate these interviews?

Too busy no time zzz
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
April 25 2012 12:30 GMT
#3734
On April 25 2012 21:29 Contagious wrote:
The Korean netizens are going crazy right now haha. So much yankee talk. xD


Can you translate some stuff?
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 25 2012 12:30 GMT
#3735
On April 25 2012 21:27 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 21:19 cascades wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On April 25 2012 21:17 DanielZKlein wrote:
You could really feel CLG falling apart in the end of that game. That was 100% nerves getting to them. Like a friend of mine said, it's like they lost 1000 ELO in the middle of this game.

Except MiG was outplaying them after the laneswapping ended. They were 4k gold ahead and 3 towers ahead by the time that awful dragon fight happened. CLG just lost harder than they should have is what you could say.


Game turning was the bad dives mid and top.


to me, I thought it was when Blaze stole the blue on to graves, pretty much killing DLift's early advantage, not that any of these things are exclusive of one another, it was really sad to see their early plan work out perfectly only to dry up so quickly.


CLG have always been terrible in protecting their own buffs. It's been like that a while, I guess MiG Blaze scouted that and took advantage hard.
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 25 2012 12:31 GMT
#3736
So does CLG leave Korea asap? I see no reason to waste more money on that apartment if they don't have a tourney to play for anymore.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
April 25 2012 12:31 GMT
#3737
On April 25 2012 21:31 beefhamburger wrote:
So does CLG leave Korea asap? I see no reason to waste more money on that apartment if they don't have a tourney to play for anymore.


uhh, pretty shure they rented it for the whole 3 months.
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
April 25 2012 12:32 GMT
#3738
quick translation: blaze wants fnatic in the semi. So they can send both foreign teams home. Game chamged when saint ogt snare flashed into to turret and they lost oracle
washed
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 12:32:56
April 25 2012 12:32 GMT
#3739
On April 25 2012 21:31 beefhamburger wrote:
So does CLG leave Korea asap? I see no reason to waste more money on that apartment if they don't have a tourney to play for anymore.


"We're about to go on air and play in about 15 minutes. If we lose we're out and we go back home empty handed, if we win we'll secure 18k.
After playing with the asian teams, they are very strong. Comparable or even better to US/EU teams. We lost constantly vs emfire like 15 times in a row and took second at IPL. Do watch this."

HotShot on Reddit. Not very specific but making money via streaming is pretty important for these guys. No real reason to stick around in Korea.
nehcnhoj
Profile Joined July 2010
United States213 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 12:34:10
April 25 2012 12:32 GMT
#3740
hotshot after hannover "i need to learn more champions" 1 month later at ipl. plays same champions. comes all the way to korea. plays same champions.

Besides his nidalee, he doesn't play any aggresive champions. even his olaf almost always becomes a support / tank defensive line. If your top lane has almost no potential for aggresive snow-ball champions you lose so many options as a team. At this point even his swain would have been a good pick over what he played in a few games. Imo honestly, split-pushing champs are good when you dominate in pushing and 1v1 matchups over every member the other team can send to stop you, but with the current meta of fast pushing junglers and him being less dominant in lane, he really needs to adapt his style/repertoire of champions at least slightly.(yes he did increase the cs gap against the talon, but alot of other way more aggresive / mobile tops could have even exp-zone'd the talon at that point.)

all of this is just my 5am opinion though ;;;

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