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DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
February 13 2012 23:03 GMT
#3401
On February 14 2012 07:55 dooraven wrote:
Man, this argument is pathetic by TSM.

But the commentary by CLG.EU on this is hillarious.

Show nested quote +
the best part is CLG.eu listening to the stream and just laughing at it. shows you what the age difference can do. and yes i blame alot of TSM's fault on their childish behavior and their age


I doubt age has to do much with this, Wickd and Froggen are seventeen and act so much more mature than TSM.


Wickd had some really stupid arguments with his former teams. up to the point where everyone else said he's stupid and should shut up. he's either gotten wiser or the older teammates he has now can handle him very well or they just happen to be really happy with their current team. look at how nice snoopeh is, i bet he has a very good influence on his whole team.

so i'd still blame it on the age which is why they behave so childish
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
February 13 2012 23:03 GMT
#3402
What the hell,I just got up at the beginning of this argument,fixed myself a sandwich,took a shower,came back and their still going on about this rofl.
Cackle™
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 13 2012 23:03 GMT
#3403
On February 14 2012 08:01 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 07:54 DoXa wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:50 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:48 DoXa wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:44 DoXa wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol these arguments are so hilarious and entertaining, regi: "youre the worst player thats why youre stuck on support."


even funnier when you know that reginald flipped shit several weeks ago when he thought xpecial said he's bad and screwed up. now he's verbally abusing him and thinks he's right.

poor xpecial. if someone leaves TSM it'd be him and i wouldn't blame him at all

TBH Xpecial is the second best person on TSM.


#1 chaox?
i guess he's the other calm and reasonable member of tsm. even though TOO has gotten a better attitude in the last weeks imoimo

Naw, you have to give #1 to regi. Chaox gets carried bot lane by Xpecial. Its just being the ad carry lets you get all the credit.

TSM power rank:

#1 Regi
#2 Xpecial
#3 Chaox
#4 TOO
#5 TRM

well i don't quite agree with you on that, but that's ok.

i'd set it to xpecial, chaox, too, regi, rainman.

the best part is CLG.eu listening to the stream and just laughing at it. shows you what the age difference can do. and yes i blame alot of TSM's fault on their childish behavior and their age

Regi when he's having a good game carries harder than anyone else on the team. Regi on a bad day feeds and bitches at his teammate. Chaox/Xpecial are more reliable but when Regi is 'on' he's TSM's star.

You... don't rate absolutely players by their very best games if they're incredibly inconsistent. Might as well rate Jiji #1 in CLG then.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:04:40
February 13 2012 23:03 GMT
#3404
Xpecial is the best player on TSM.

Edit: I view "best" based on consistency. How often does this player play his role well in a tournament setting.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
February 13 2012 23:04 GMT
#3405
Snoopeh is not amused.

Regi is making me facepalm so hard right now...
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:05:21
February 13 2012 23:04 GMT
#3406
On February 14 2012 08:02 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 07:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:44 DoXa wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol these arguments are so hilarious and entertaining, regi: "youre the worst player thats why youre stuck on support."


even funnier when you know that reginald flipped shit several weeks ago when he thought xpecial said he's bad and screwed up. now he's verbally abusing him and thinks he's right.

poor xpecial. if someone leaves TSM it'd be him and i wouldn't blame him at all

TBH Xpecial is the second best person on TSM.


easily rate him number 1... he's much better than regi and probably better than chaox.

back then xpecial crushed regi solomid as kennen so many times
xpecial #1 ap mid imho
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
February 13 2012 23:07 GMT
#3407
Xpecial has been taking shit from Regi ever since he joined. I remember when he first joined Regi got all up in his face a lot because he wasn't playing Support right. And a lot of it was deserved.

But now, Xpecial is playing great. I mean, for example his Alistar is superb. Tbh, a lot of the time Regi is at fault but he pushes the responsibility to Xpecial like he used to. Xpecial is also willing to back down in order to maintain cohesion and looks at the bigger picture which is good. Regi needs to dial it back.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
February 13 2012 23:08 GMT
#3408
OMG FINALLY!!

Snoopeh making me laugh:

Is he gonna drop it?
Is he gonna drop it?
He's dropping it!!~
[false alarm]
OMG STOP IT! UGH!!
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 13 2012 23:08 GMT
#3409
Wickd : «These guys are fucking retarded».
The legend of Darien lives on
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 13 2012 23:10 GMT
#3410
On February 14 2012 06:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 06:11 Mogwai wrote:
On February 14 2012 05:58 TheYango wrote:
The thing that bothers me about Mallet is that it's just sort of a midrangey item. If you're playing a carry role, then you should be getting enough farm to finish and charge Warmog's and have Atma's in reasonable time. If you're playing a supportive role, then you're better off buying supportive items like Aegis and Shurelya's.

It's sort of a cop-out item for players that don't properly assess their team role and want to force themselves into a carry position without having the farm to back it up.

still a good item on Monkey, Chinese Guy and Dragon Lady.

Shyvana I can see because she's sort of a midgame carry that COULD finish Warmog's/Atmas but probably doesn't want to, since waiting that long would put her past her prime.

Why Xin and Monkey?


I think on Shy it better to just get Phage and belt, then grab Atmas. Mallet combine cost so high... zzz.

Then you don't have to sell stuffs to get a sexy late game build because you can grab Warmogs then just rock the Trinity.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
February 13 2012 23:11 GMT
#3411
Regi wins because he's confident and condescending, while xpecial is an apologizing whiney biotch. Regi is always over the top so his insulting is expected, while xpecial is a quiet woman so when he insults someone it comes off as him being a spiteful whore.

User was warned for this post
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
February 13 2012 23:12 GMT
#3412
On February 14 2012 08:04 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 08:02 UniversalSnip wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:44 DoXa wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol these arguments are so hilarious and entertaining, regi: "youre the worst player thats why youre stuck on support."


even funnier when you know that reginald flipped shit several weeks ago when he thought xpecial said he's bad and screwed up. now he's verbally abusing him and thinks he's right.

poor xpecial. if someone leaves TSM it'd be him and i wouldn't blame him at all

TBH Xpecial is the second best person on TSM.


easily rate him number 1... he's much better than regi and probably better than chaox.

back then xpecial crushed regi solomid as kennen so many times
xpecial #1 ap mid imho


Except Reginald didn't even play AP Mid at that time.... he was playing ezreal and shaco


Also, I laugh at how people think that Reginald is actually good. He plays snowbally things like LeBlanc and asks OddOne to camp his lane. Then when he goes 7-0, somehow people correlate it to his skill, not the champion nor the camping mid lane thing.

Same with Chaox, how often have you seen Chaox do well when he's not ahead to begin with? Although he is the best AD, sometimes people just give people too much credit.

When you look at Rain Man and OddOne you have to realize that they often get fucked over by the amount of camping going on mid. Instead, when Rain Man dies people are always like, l0l0l0l0 shit player. And when OddOne isn't farmed people are like l0l0l0l0l0l scrub jungler.

Measuring individual skill is inaccurate compared to measuring team skill. There's no need to have a "TSM power rank" since they're not even ever going to play against each other in fair environments
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:15:41
February 13 2012 23:12 GMT
#3413
LOL, turn on regi stream when I hear in LP they are arguing, and then I turn on wickd stream cause he has 7k and they're commentating on it.
Wickd: "KREPO I'M NOT PERSONALLY ATTACKING YOU I'M JUST CALLING YOU FUCKING BAD BRO!"
Krepo: "YO PETE, LET'S HAVE A FIGHT, WE GET MORE VIEWERS THAT WAY, I'LL SEND U THE DOCUMENT WITH YOUR LINES, REHEARSH IT!"

Krepo?: "You can watch this in a nature documentary, it's alpha male behaviour, you can see if in their faces when someone c alls out their mistake".
Haha.

Not sure on krepos/froggens voices. I know pete/wickd/snoopeh.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:14:13
February 13 2012 23:13 GMT
#3414
On February 14 2012 08:11 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Regi wins because he's confident and condescending, while xpecial is an apologizing whiney biotch. Regi is always over the top so his insulting is expected, while xpecial is a quiet woman so when he insults someone it comes off as him being a spiteful whore.


Rampant sexism aside (woman issues much...), Xpecial is willing to be reasonable, not to be a "whiny bitch". Being willing to drop an argument if it means that the team will be better off for it is a strong trait, not a weak one. Even quiet people have the right to speak.

e: MAJORITY RULE BROS, HOW ABOUT THAT.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 13 2012 23:14 GMT
#3415
On February 14 2012 08:12 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 08:04 emucxg wrote:
On February 14 2012 08:02 UniversalSnip wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:44 DoXa wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol these arguments are so hilarious and entertaining, regi: "youre the worst player thats why youre stuck on support."


even funnier when you know that reginald flipped shit several weeks ago when he thought xpecial said he's bad and screwed up. now he's verbally abusing him and thinks he's right.

poor xpecial. if someone leaves TSM it'd be him and i wouldn't blame him at all

TBH Xpecial is the second best person on TSM.


easily rate him number 1... he's much better than regi and probably better than chaox.

back then xpecial crushed regi solomid as kennen so many times
xpecial #1 ap mid imho


Except Reginald didn't even play AP Mid at that time.... he was playing ezreal and shaco


Also, I laugh at how people think that Reginald is actually good. He plays snowbally things like LeBlanc and asks OddOne to camp his lane. Then when he goes 7-0, somehow people correlate it to his skill, not the champion nor the camping mid lane thing.

Same with Chaox, how often have you seen Chaox do well when he's not ahead to begin with? Although he is the best AD, sometimes people just give people too much credit.

When you look at Rain Man and OddOne you have to realize that they often get fucked over by the amount of camping going on mid. Instead, when Rain Man dies people are always like, l0l0l0l0 shit player. And when OddOne isn't farmed people are like l0l0l0l0l0l scrub jungler.

Measuring individual skill is inaccurate compared to measuring team skill. There's no need to have a "TSM power rank" since they're not even ever going to play against each other in fair environments

Yep this is true, TOO always camps mid for Regi. Even though I feel like TRM is the worst player on TSM it's true that he doesn't really get much help as TOO always camps mid for regi and I guess enemy jungler can pressure TRM better, then
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 13 2012 23:14 GMT
#3416
"You can just watch a nature show and get the same thing" - Snoopeh
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
February 13 2012 23:16 GMT
#3417
Hotshot's being real deep right now - "Regi has too much control over them, he's in control of the team, and the site, and their streams, and their future, so when they have a fight with him they just have to back down."

It's really depressing to think of it like that, but it really seems to be true ;/
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:19:38
February 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#3418
On February 14 2012 08:16 Niton wrote:
Hotshot's being real deep right now - "Regi has too much control over them, he's in control of the team, and the site, and their streams, and their future, so when they have a fight with him they just have to back down."

It's really depressing to think of it like that, but it really seems to be true ;/

CLG.eu were more or less saying the same.

edit : Ho I just understood it was Hotshot talking with CLG.eu ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#3419
On February 14 2012 08:16 Niton wrote:
Hotshot's being real deep right now - "Regi has too much control over them, he's in control of the team, and the site, and their streams, and their future, so when they have a fight with him they just have to back down."

It's really depressing to think of it like that, but it really seems to be true ;/


This is so true.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 13 2012 23:18 GMT
#3420
On February 14 2012 08:16 Niton wrote:
Hotshot's being real deep right now - "Regi has too much control over them, he's in control of the team, and the site, and their streams, and their future, so when they have a fight with him they just have to back down."

It's really depressing to think of it like that, but it really seems to be true ;/

That's cause hotshot does the same thing with CLG, cept Saint gives no fucks, and Jiji and Chauster are chill.
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