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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
February 13 2012 22:34 GMT
#3361
On February 14 2012 07:33 TheYango wrote:
On the topic of Warmog's, I really feel like it shouldn't grant full stacks on assists. Stacking Warmog's should feel like a significant drawback for the item, but in practice, getting stacks on assists means that it only takes 1-2 fights plus some in-between farming time to actually stack it fully.


It should probably also work like some other kind of snowball item - an item that grants bonus stats for kills without penalties for dying is kind of silly, especially when those stats are tank stats.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 22:37:00
February 13 2012 22:35 GMT
#3362
On February 14 2012 07:33 Niton wrote:
On a side note, I definitely thought Frozen Mallet cost like 2800. At 3250, it's way worse just because 2 AD is a joke.

Comedy option: Phage (1315) + Pickaxe (975) + Giant's Belt (1110) = 3750g, 700 HP / 50 AD.

You basically just destroyed the item. 2 slots is bad enough, especially for 2 items that cost 1k+. Adding a third 1k item before you can combine it is suicide. The only items that can get away with that are triforce and IE because of how damn good they are.

And I think mogs is fine, its just the other 2 giants belt items suck balls and need to be adjusted to match it.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
February 13 2012 22:36 GMT
#3363
Wow....Regi and Xpecial arguing sounds even worse than CLG's arguing. Poor Xpecial.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 13 2012 22:37 GMT
#3364
Reginald sounds like the most difficult person to deal with ever
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 13 2012 22:37 GMT
#3365
Mallet is a fantastic item haters, keep on hatin
You remember the last time you ran from a trundle or shyv or xin with mallet? AINT NEVAH HAPPENED SON
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
February 13 2012 22:37 GMT
#3366
what da fuck, are they really arguing after a win? oO

CLGeu are saying "okay, we screwed up here, here and here, lets not make the same mistakes again etc" and move on healthily as a team.

are TSM really arguing over winning oO?
Go go Alliance.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 22:39:53
February 13 2012 22:39 GMT
#3367
On February 14 2012 07:37 gtrsrs wrote:
Mallet is a fantastic item haters, keep on hatin
You remember the last time you ran from a trundle or shyv or xin with mallet? AINT NEVAH HAPPENED SON

Except that happens with Phage/Red buff reasonably often anyway.
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
February 13 2012 22:39 GMT
#3368
On February 14 2012 07:35 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 07:33 Niton wrote:
On a side note, I definitely thought Frozen Mallet cost like 2800. At 3250, it's way worse just because 2 AD is a joke.

Comedy option: Phage (1315) + Pickaxe (975) + Giant's Belt (1110) = 3750g, 700 HP / 50 AD.

You basically just destroyed the item. 2 slots is bad enough, especially for 2 items that cost 1k+. Adding a third 1k item before you can combine it is suicide. The only items that can get away with that are triforce and IE because of how damn good they are.


It's a comedy option, it's meant to be less-than-serious yo.

That said, I can't think of any option around the 3k range that makes it a 'better' item, except for like Phage + Pickaxe + Ruby Crystal, but that makes it less slot-efficient and skews it more toward like '450 HP 50 AD' than what it is currently. You really want the Megaphage to cost significantly less than Triforce, but Triforce is so efficient to begin with that it's hard to make it appeal to tanky pepole AND do damage.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 13 2012 22:40 GMT
#3369
lol these arguments are so hilarious and entertaining, regi: "youre the worst player thats why youre stuck on support."
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
February 13 2012 22:40 GMT
#3370
this is why they shouldnt drop from school so early
regi reminds me middle school kids
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 22:41:31
February 13 2012 22:41 GMT
#3371
On February 14 2012 07:37 dooraven wrote:
what da fuck, are they really arguing after a win? oO

CLGeu are saying "okay, we screwed up here, here and here, lets not make the same mistakes again etc" and move on healthily as a team.

are TSM really arguing over winning oO?

Xspecial never really fit in TSM, don't you think so? It's like he is a shy little guy, who plays and don't talk much, and he is playing with 4 others guy that are always raging and crying - not that I don't like that, I find them funny.

And Regi is always picking on him.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 13 2012 22:41 GMT
#3372
On February 14 2012 07:39 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 07:35 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:33 Niton wrote:
On a side note, I definitely thought Frozen Mallet cost like 2800. At 3250, it's way worse just because 2 AD is a joke.

Comedy option: Phage (1315) + Pickaxe (975) + Giant's Belt (1110) = 3750g, 700 HP / 50 AD.

You basically just destroyed the item. 2 slots is bad enough, especially for 2 items that cost 1k+. Adding a third 1k item before you can combine it is suicide. The only items that can get away with that are triforce and IE because of how damn good they are.


It's a comedy option, it's meant to be less-than-serious yo.

That said, I can't think of any option around the 3k range that makes it a 'better' item, except for like Phage + Pickaxe + Ruby Crystal, but that makes it less slot-efficient and skews it more toward like '450 HP 50 AD' than what it is currently. You really want the Megaphage to cost significantly less than Triforce, but Triforce is so efficient to begin with that it's hard to make it appeal to tanky pepole AND do damage.

Then give the item an active ability.

If it's too awkward to buff the item on pure stats efficiency, tweak it via utility. Makes the item more fun to use to boot.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 13 2012 22:41 GMT
#3373
Although, what I REALLY want is for Riot to put the SUPERTRIFORCE into the game.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 22:42:52
February 13 2012 22:41 GMT
#3374
Seriously guys, I already put the stats that are needed for Mallet.

Same exact cost, 700 -> 800 HP, 20 -> 25 AD, now it's a reasonable item. You add 500 gold worth of stats to the item and all is well in the world.


On February 14 2012 07:41 Two_DoWn wrote:
Although, what I REALLY want is for Riot to put the SUPERTRIFORCE into the game.

2nded.

I want a Lichbane + PD + Mallet item that you can just straight up buy and become a god when you successfully complete the 10K challenge.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 13 2012 22:42 GMT
#3375
On February 14 2012 07:39 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 07:37 gtrsrs wrote:
Mallet is a fantastic item haters, keep on hatin
You remember the last time you ran from a trundle or shyv or xin with mallet? AINT NEVAH HAPPENED SON

Except that happens with Phage/Red buff reasonably often anyway.

Yeah everyone keeps telling me to build Phage wits on shyv because it'll apply the slow almost as consistently and then I try it and Ashe with no boots is able to run away from me

It's just nit the same
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
February 13 2012 22:44 GMT
#3376
On February 14 2012 07:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol these arguments are so hilarious and entertaining, regi: "youre the worst player thats why youre stuck on support."


even funnier when you know that reginald flipped shit several weeks ago when he thought xpecial said he's bad and screwed up. now he's verbally abusing him and thinks he's right.

poor xpecial. if someone leaves TSM it'd be him and i wouldn't blame him at all
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 13 2012 22:46 GMT
#3377
On February 14 2012 07:44 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 07:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol these arguments are so hilarious and entertaining, regi: "youre the worst player thats why youre stuck on support."


even funnier when you know that reginald flipped shit several weeks ago when he thought xpecial said he's bad and screwed up. now he's verbally abusing him and thinks he's right.

poor xpecial. if someone leaves TSM it'd be him and i wouldn't blame him at all

TBH Xpecial is the second best person on TSM.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 13 2012 22:48 GMT
#3378
dat regi logic lol
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
February 13 2012 22:48 GMT
#3379
On February 14 2012 07:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 07:44 DoXa wrote:
On February 14 2012 07:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol these arguments are so hilarious and entertaining, regi: "youre the worst player thats why youre stuck on support."


even funnier when you know that reginald flipped shit several weeks ago when he thought xpecial said he's bad and screwed up. now he's verbally abusing him and thinks he's right.

poor xpecial. if someone leaves TSM it'd be him and i wouldn't blame him at all

TBH Xpecial is the second best person on TSM.


#1 chaox?
i guess he's the other calm and reasonable member of tsm. even though TOO has gotten a better attitude in the last weeks imoimo
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 13 2012 22:49 GMT
#3380
On February 14 2012 07:44 DoXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2012 07:40 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol these arguments are so hilarious and entertaining, regi: "youre the worst player thats why youre stuck on support."


even funnier when you know that reginald flipped shit several weeks ago when he thought xpecial said he's bad and screwed up. now he's verbally abusing him and thinks he's right.

poor xpecial. if someone leaves TSM it'd be him and i wouldn't blame him at all

Kind of sad as currently I'd rate Xpecial one of the top players in TSM and I'd say in importance to their play he's right up there with Chaox and TOO
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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