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On January 18 2012 21:42 ihasaKAROT wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 21:37 Agnosthar wrote:
Hey guys, I haven't played since before the Ahri patch.
I'm wondering if anyone would be kind enough to share their thoughts on who the best solo top champions are right now. I like champions that have a strong late-game provided they have good cs in the laning phase. Riven/Irelia used to be my go to champions, but I'd love to know if there are stronger alternatives now, such as the new Jax?
Thanks in advance. Toplane is really hard to tell, its about your teamcompo, the enemyteamcompo and how you fit in. Gp, Irelia, Trynd, Rumble, Kennen, Riven, Nida, Renek, Monkey, Singed etc etc etc... All good champions, given the right conditions.
Given the right conditions ? What are the bad conditions for Kennen ? XD
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LOL
Sejuani is so incredibly stupid when she's ahead in lane. And she's like the 2nd most stupid lane to gank right after Skarner.
Edit: Also I feel wriggles is kinda stupid on her. Ima try straight RoA next time.
Went Wriggles -> Glacial -> Giants Belt -> Atmas -> FoN -> FH
PS: Q -> E -> W into a teamfight is pretty damn stupid as well. 70% slow HAI ENJOY. Then while your team starts shitting on them you can calmly walk out and R some cluttered people. Straight up initiating with her R is kinda tricky imoimo.
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On January 18 2012 22:06 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 21:42 ihasaKAROT wrote:On January 18 2012 21:37 Agnosthar wrote:
Hey guys, I haven't played since before the Ahri patch.
I'm wondering if anyone would be kind enough to share their thoughts on who the best solo top champions are right now. I like champions that have a strong late-game provided they have good cs in the laning phase. Riven/Irelia used to be my go to champions, but I'd love to know if there are stronger alternatives now, such as the new Jax?
Thanks in advance. Toplane is really hard to tell, its about your teamcompo, the enemyteamcompo and how you fit in. Gp, Irelia, Trynd, Rumble, Kennen, Riven, Nida, Renek, Monkey, Singed etc etc etc... All good champions, given the right conditions. Given the right conditions ? What are the bad conditions for Kennen ? XD
An AP jungler like Fiddle + AP mid.
Opponent stacks MR, you lose.
Kennen is good against everyone IN toplane, but does not fit in every teamcomp.
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On January 18 2012 22:11 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 22:06 mr_tolkien wrote:On January 18 2012 21:42 ihasaKAROT wrote:On January 18 2012 21:37 Agnosthar wrote:
Hey guys, I haven't played since before the Ahri patch.
I'm wondering if anyone would be kind enough to share their thoughts on who the best solo top champions are right now. I like champions that have a strong late-game provided they have good cs in the laning phase. Riven/Irelia used to be my go to champions, but I'd love to know if there are stronger alternatives now, such as the new Jax?
Thanks in advance. Toplane is really hard to tell, its about your teamcompo, the enemyteamcompo and how you fit in. Gp, Irelia, Trynd, Rumble, Kennen, Riven, Nida, Renek, Monkey, Singed etc etc etc... All good champions, given the right conditions. Given the right conditions ? What are the bad conditions for Kennen ? XD An AP jungler like Fiddle + AP mid. Opponent stacks MR, you lose. Kennen is good against everyone IN toplane, but does not fit in every teamcomp.
I knew someone was gonna pull me up on the kennen in there  Kennen is the most 'safe' champ to pick if you have to firstpick top. Its a good safe option but as stated, kennen doenst fit into every teamcompo. The number of times a janna ults ppl out of my ult... le gasp
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On January 18 2012 18:54 ihasaKAROT wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 18:13 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Holy shit Dyrus' second win in a row with girlbearpig! Epic TF backdooring, challenging baron, Graves getting chased by 5 members of enemy team into their base (and escaping!). 2 gud. 2 gud.
Late game though you could really see that Graves was much stronger than Ez. Not having a real AD carry late game is a death sentence to any team. I loved their comment of "I used to have this game won, but then I took a snowflake to the knee"
Wow that is so original, I have never heard that before. It is almost like it is from some game I have played once or twice, do you know which game that might be?
By the way the new champion seems like a mediocre/subpar ultibot
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Also not sure if anyone posted this;
But Soraka has a high possibility of being nerfed (From Morello post)
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That ulti on Sejuani is so good.
Other then that she seems pretty decent. Nice damage output, hard as hell to kill and the permafrost slow might aswell be a snare.
I tried building her Atmog tanky. Might be fun to try a more ADish build considering she can catch people so easily.
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On January 18 2012 22:11 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 22:06 mr_tolkien wrote:On January 18 2012 21:42 ihasaKAROT wrote:On January 18 2012 21:37 Agnosthar wrote:
Hey guys, I haven't played since before the Ahri patch.
I'm wondering if anyone would be kind enough to share their thoughts on who the best solo top champions are right now. I like champions that have a strong late-game provided they have good cs in the laning phase. Riven/Irelia used to be my go to champions, but I'd love to know if there are stronger alternatives now, such as the new Jax?
Thanks in advance. Toplane is really hard to tell, its about your teamcompo, the enemyteamcompo and how you fit in. Gp, Irelia, Trynd, Rumble, Kennen, Riven, Nida, Renek, Monkey, Singed etc etc etc... All good champions, given the right conditions. Given the right conditions ? What are the bad conditions for Kennen ? XD An AP jungler like Fiddle + AP mid. Opponent stacks MR, you lose. Kennen is good against everyone IN toplane, but does not fit in every teamcomp.
Well, every AP is «countered» by MR stacking >.> His only problem is janna, but if you manage to take good angles with your ult it might even be possible that she can't counter you.
Seriously, Kennen has no really bad sides. He can be sub-optimal but will be good in every team comp.
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On January 18 2012 23:02 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 22:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
An AP jungler like Fiddle + AP mid.
Opponent stacks MR, you lose.
Kennen is good against everyone IN toplane, but does not fit in every teamcomp. Well, every AP is «countered» by MR stacking >.> His only problem is janna, but if you manage to take good angles with your ult it might even be possible that she can't counter you. Seriously, Kennen has no really bad sides. He can be sub-optimal but will be good in every team comp.
Alistar, Lee Sin, Tristana, some root... Janna's awesome but she isn't he only one. 
I'd like to fight better lanes whenever I pick Janna. That'd force me to improve and show my (certainly numerous) mistakes and bad reaction times. Less bully than Sona but more rewarding.
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On January 18 2012 23:08 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 23:02 mr_tolkien wrote:On January 18 2012 22:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
An AP jungler like Fiddle + AP mid.
Opponent stacks MR, you lose.
Kennen is good against everyone IN toplane, but does not fit in every teamcomp. Well, every AP is «countered» by MR stacking >.> His only problem is janna, but if you manage to take good angles with your ult it might even be possible that she can't counter you. Seriously, Kennen has no really bad sides. He can be sub-optimal but will be good in every team comp. Alistar, Lee Sin, Tristana, some root... Janna's awesome but she isn't he only one. I'd like to fight better lanes whenever I pick Janna. That'd force me to improve and show my (certainly numerous) mistakes and bad reaction times. Less bully than Sona but more rewarding.
Janna is my favorite support by far. I feel like I have SO much more influence over the game than as any other support. She can save the many many derps in solo q in a way that Soraka and Sona can't.
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On January 18 2012 22:35 RogerX wrote:
Also not sure if anyone posted this;
But Soraka has a high possibility of being nerfed (From Morello post)
That's not good for us who are willing to play support.
Really hope they come out with two straight support champs, sick of playing only 5 or 6 champs with an ad bot.
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I think the armour on soraka's Q puts her over the top, she needs at least a slight nerf.
So, Boarbitch, viable as a support leona-style or should I just stick to the jungle with her.
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On January 18 2012 23:18 57 Corvette wrote:
I think the armour on soraka's Q puts her over the top, she needs at least a slight nerf.
So, Boarbitch, viable as a support leona-style or should I just stick to the jungle with her.
well shes a retard proof champion and her abilties are insane. free mana for your ad carry in lane helps him last hitting if he needs to use abilities, or if he wants to poke with abilities to make his farming easier.
and the armor buff from heal makes it impossible for the other ad to trade hits with yours.
all the other heals in the game dont buff your defence stats, and any buff they do provide isnt as big as 200 odd armor you get, just too stronk.
maybe half the armor but make it boost mr aswell, then rework her passive i think would be a good change for her ;o she isnt op in team fights (imo) compared to what other supports bring. some of the lesser played supports might be weak in team fights and need to be brought up to her/janna, but i think its her retard proof laning (and by extension her ability to make her ads laning retard proof) that is silly.
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at rank 5 on W doesn't it give like 125 armor?........
.......... wow?
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Ranged targeted silence real strong though. I could have added her to the list of Kennen's bullies. I know she made me a sad panda in more than one Panth game.
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On January 18 2012 22:10 r.Evo wrote:
LOL
Sejuani is so incredibly stupid when she's ahead in lane. And she's like the 2nd most stupid lane to gank right after Skarner.
Edit: Also I feel wriggles is kinda stupid on her. Ima try straight RoA next time.
Went Wriggles -> Glacial -> Giants Belt -> Atmas -> FoN -> FH
PS: Q -> E -> W into a teamfight is pretty damn stupid as well. 70% slow HAI ENJOY. Then while your team starts shitting on them you can calmly walk out and R some cluttered people. Straight up initiating with her R is kinda tricky imoimo.
Nonono you are so wrong! j/k
You forgot that she's soo big that you cannot target anything but her in a teamfight (not to forget when lasthitting)
I think her aoe PERMAslow is a bit too much, and after you might have gotten somewhere, she ults you and you are totally stuck =/
I seriously cannot imagine any other tank being as disruptive and annoying as her in a teamfight, have only played two games vs her but to me it feels a bit iffy.
Edit: Am in no way saying she's op or anything yet, she's not rediculously strong or anything. Will be interesting to see how she turns out tbh.
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On January 18 2012 23:02 mr_tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2012 22:11 Dandel Ion wrote:On January 18 2012 22:06 mr_tolkien wrote:On January 18 2012 21:42 ihasaKAROT wrote:On January 18 2012 21:37 Agnosthar wrote:
Hey guys, I haven't played since before the Ahri patch.
I'm wondering if anyone would be kind enough to share their thoughts on who the best solo top champions are right now. I like champions that have a strong late-game provided they have good cs in the laning phase. Riven/Irelia used to be my go to champions, but I'd love to know if there are stronger alternatives now, such as the new Jax?
Thanks in advance. Toplane is really hard to tell, its about your teamcompo, the enemyteamcompo and how you fit in. Gp, Irelia, Trynd, Rumble, Kennen, Riven, Nida, Renek, Monkey, Singed etc etc etc... All good champions, given the right conditions. Given the right conditions ? What are the bad conditions for Kennen ? XD An AP jungler like Fiddle + AP mid. Opponent stacks MR, you lose. Kennen is good against everyone IN toplane, but does not fit in every teamcomp. Well, every AP is «countered» by MR stacking >.> His only problem is janna, but if you manage to take good angles with your ult it might even be possible that she can't counter you. Seriously, Kennen has no really bad sides. He can be sub-optimal but will be good in every team comp.
Well, that's the point. If you already have 2 ap's in your team comp (fiddle jungle + ap mid) it might not be the best idea to take another ap that is countered by MR stacking.
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but thats just a weakness of any hero in the game. nothing to do with kennen.
you dont argue that vayne is bad because if your entire team was AD she would get hurt a bit by armor.
infact kennen is the least of those countered by mr. aoe stun real stronk even if you are doing no dmg. rumble on the other hand either does dmg or goes home.
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On January 18 2012 23:28 RogerX wrote:
at rank 5 on W doesn't it give like 125 armor?........
.......... wow?
Its just too damn strong. Plus you have to factor in her MR passive aura which prevents AP carries from instabursting soraka's allies, and whoever she puts the heal on gets tank like resistances for free.
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On January 18 2012 23:39 turdburgler wrote:
but thats just a weakness of any hero in the game. nothing to do with kennen.
you dont argue that vayne is bad because if your entire team was AD she would get hurt a bit by armor.
infact kennen is the least of those countered by mr. aoe stun real stronk even if you are doing no dmg. rumble on the other hand either does dmg or goes home.
I do argue that Vayne is bad in a teamcomp with 4 other AD's.
Emphasis on teamcomp cause that's what I'm talking about. Nobody says Kennen is bad. In fact, Kennen is really, really strong.
But to say that he works in/against EVERY teamcomp EVER is just delusional, and frankly, stupid.
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