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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 21:18:41
January 06 2012 21:17 GMT
#1881
On January 07 2012 05:59 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 05:50 Shikyo wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:39 Requizen wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:27 Shikyo wrote:
By the way this is totally unrelated to the TSM vs M5 discussion right now, but I think that Skarner is a totally bs champion. He takes absolutely no skill to play and even a moron is able to flash-ult into a free kill every time his ulti is up, apart from that you just mash all his skills in fights as even with 0 mana regen his skills cost no mana.

I'm almost certain that he's going to be nerfed next patch, and I'm going to be extremely happy about that as the champion is just way too easy to do well with.

There's no need for a nerf. Aside from his ult and slow, he doesn't have anything too overbearingly strong. And even the slow isn't that bad. His damage isn't absurdly high, his tankiness isn't above any other bruiser, and he doesn't poke hard. He's very, very balanced with one very high strength, that is clearing speed and ult ganks.

It's not so much the strenght it's that he can be played by a brainless moron and still carry his team, there's rebalancing that's required, nerfing not so much.



how does gp or any other champ with no real skill shot differ much though? ult in the general direction of their team, hit every button.

gp differs by requiring more skill, not sure how to explain better >_> it's nowhere near comparable (mostly the fact that herpderp 800 movespeed flash R herpderp 4v5)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 06 2012 21:20 GMT
#1882
On January 07 2012 06:17 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 05:59 turdburgler wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:50 Shikyo wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:39 Requizen wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:27 Shikyo wrote:
By the way this is totally unrelated to the TSM vs M5 discussion right now, but I think that Skarner is a totally bs champion. He takes absolutely no skill to play and even a moron is able to flash-ult into a free kill every time his ulti is up, apart from that you just mash all his skills in fights as even with 0 mana regen his skills cost no mana.

I'm almost certain that he's going to be nerfed next patch, and I'm going to be extremely happy about that as the champion is just way too easy to do well with.

There's no need for a nerf. Aside from his ult and slow, he doesn't have anything too overbearingly strong. And even the slow isn't that bad. His damage isn't absurdly high, his tankiness isn't above any other bruiser, and he doesn't poke hard. He's very, very balanced with one very high strength, that is clearing speed and ult ganks.

It's not so much the strenght it's that he can be played by a brainless moron and still carry his team, there's rebalancing that's required, nerfing not so much.



how does gp or any other champ with no real skill shot differ much though? ult in the general direction of their team, hit every button.

gp differs by requiring more skill, not sure how to explain better >_> it's nowhere near comparable (mostly the fact that herpderp 800 movespeed flash R herpderp 4v5)

GP takes skills to play? since when?
liftlift > tsm
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#1883
woohoo AP Janna!
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#1884
On January 07 2012 06:17 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 05:59 turdburgler wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:50 Shikyo wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:39 Requizen wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:27 Shikyo wrote:
By the way this is totally unrelated to the TSM vs M5 discussion right now, but I think that Skarner is a totally bs champion. He takes absolutely no skill to play and even a moron is able to flash-ult into a free kill every time his ulti is up, apart from that you just mash all his skills in fights as even with 0 mana regen his skills cost no mana.

I'm almost certain that he's going to be nerfed next patch, and I'm going to be extremely happy about that as the champion is just way too easy to do well with.

There's no need for a nerf. Aside from his ult and slow, he doesn't have anything too overbearingly strong. And even the slow isn't that bad. His damage isn't absurdly high, his tankiness isn't above any other bruiser, and he doesn't poke hard. He's very, very balanced with one very high strength, that is clearing speed and ult ganks.

It's not so much the strenght it's that he can be played by a brainless moron and still carry his team, there's rebalancing that's required, nerfing not so much.



how does gp or any other champ with no real skill shot differ much though? ult in the general direction of their team, hit every button.

gp differs by requiring more skill, not sure how to explain better >_> it's nowhere near comparable (mostly the fact that herpderp 800 movespeed flash R herpderp 4v5)

Takes skill to place ult maybe? I just derp EQ attack hit W for CC or heals.
It's your boy Guzma!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#1885
On January 07 2012 06:20 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 06:17 Shikyo wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:59 turdburgler wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:50 Shikyo wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:39 Requizen wrote:
On January 07 2012 05:27 Shikyo wrote:
By the way this is totally unrelated to the TSM vs M5 discussion right now, but I think that Skarner is a totally bs champion. He takes absolutely no skill to play and even a moron is able to flash-ult into a free kill every time his ulti is up, apart from that you just mash all his skills in fights as even with 0 mana regen his skills cost no mana.

I'm almost certain that he's going to be nerfed next patch, and I'm going to be extremely happy about that as the champion is just way too easy to do well with.

There's no need for a nerf. Aside from his ult and slow, he doesn't have anything too overbearingly strong. And even the slow isn't that bad. His damage isn't absurdly high, his tankiness isn't above any other bruiser, and he doesn't poke hard. He's very, very balanced with one very high strength, that is clearing speed and ult ganks.

It's not so much the strenght it's that he can be played by a brainless moron and still carry his team, there's rebalancing that's required, nerfing not so much.



how does gp or any other champ with no real skill shot differ much though? ult in the general direction of their team, hit every button.

gp differs by requiring more skill, not sure how to explain better >_> it's nowhere near comparable (mostly the fact that herpderp 800 movespeed flash R herpderp 4v5)

GP takes skills to play? since when?

because he can't get a free kill every time his ulti is up and can't just amove either spamming Q and W, for instance his parrrley at least needs to be aimed, and so on... Gangplank is nowhere near moronproof, you recognize a bad GP from miles away whereas you can recognize a bad Skarner as well but they'll still do well, that's the problem(Note I'm not saying Skarner is OP he's just too easy to not-fail with.)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 21:27:36
January 06 2012 21:25 GMT
#1886
Regi got outplayed so hard mid. Nunu comes to gank as he is heading back to his tower, he crawls almost to safety, janna runs past, ults him back to mid and he gets clawed down.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 06 2012 21:28 GMT
#1887
Regi getting bashed. Flash under tower to chase Janna, dies to her and Nunu.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 06 2012 21:32 GMT
#1888
What's up with Oddone's camera? Is his mouse really up by his chest like that? Weird.
It's your boy Guzma!
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 06 2012 21:33 GMT
#1889
too bad panda isn't streaming been looking forward to some vayne lately
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 21:36:08
January 06 2012 21:35 GMT
#1890
Bad scrims for TSM today. Mid Top losing lane. Chaox can't carry these games.
Still pretty close so far.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 21:36:53
January 06 2012 21:35 GMT
#1891
Good play by SK, get regi down and right in time to take dragon after. TSM talking about the whole thing about getting ready for drag and they should fight if equal numbers, but talk is only talk when SK makes the play.

oh my god I can't believe regi survived that, half a health bar left vs vayne for like 4 seconds :D
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
January 06 2012 21:36 GMT
#1892
wow, DAT flash
Best Teemo World
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 06 2012 21:37 GMT
#1893
That flash by Regi so bad. Flashes to snare graves under a tower, but he himself is low so he just ends up dying. And before that he got caught middle causing them to lose dragon.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
January 06 2012 21:37 GMT
#1894
hahahah regi botches his flash for the second time and trynda almost dies after using his ult.
What's with oddone's arm though o.O
End my suffering
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 06 2012 21:38 GMT
#1895
Not one of regi's best days.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 06 2012 21:38 GMT
#1896
lol Regi, flashing into tower all day
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 06 2012 21:38 GMT
#1897
If i see how regi plays, i'm just asking myself if someone so unconsistent is the right person for a pro team...
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 06 2012 21:40 GMT
#1898
On January 07 2012 06:38 DoXa wrote:
If i see how regi plays, i'm just asking myself if someone so unconsistent is the right person for a pro team...

i thought regi was pretty bad like you did at first, but when his play is tight he's easily the best solo midder na imo
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 06 2012 21:43 GMT
#1899
On January 07 2012 06:40 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 06:38 DoXa wrote:
If i see how regi plays, i'm just asking myself if someone so unconsistent is the right person for a pro team...

i thought regi was pretty bad like you did at first, but when his play is tight he's easily the best solo midder na imo


the thing is, IMO an AP mid who plays decent every game is way better than an AP mid that sometimes gets shit on and crushes in other games. it's just that regi is really inconsistent, havent seen something like that on other people. TheRainMan is an example of doing his job everytime, not the best player, but he never loses the lane.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 06 2012 21:43 GMT
#1900
I disagree about that, one of the best perhaps though but he's too risky
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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