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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#301
Morgana vs Morgana mid is so duuuuuuumb. Boots/pots + scaling mp5 > dr + scaling mana, though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 14 2011 20:10 GMT
#302
On September 15 2011 05:05 Frolossus wrote:
really no love for anivia?


That annoying frosty bitch bird >:|
It's your boy Guzma!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 14 2011 20:10 GMT
#303
On September 15 2011 05:03 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 04:58 L wrote:
On September 15 2011 02:32 HazMat wrote:
Dunno how Vlad will go from one of the worst AP to one of the best because of 1 change to an item that isn't even that amazing on him.

Because they just nerfed the fuck out of the top two AP carries as well. Brand and Ori's nerfs are massive.


Eh, they're nerfs, but they're not "never gonna play this champ again" nerfs. Maybe Ori's are more severe (I don't play her) but Brand is still going to be a monster for the most part. 5 damage on PoF isn't even going to be noticeable, and the range just means you need to be better about landing his other spells first, as you can't rely on his E to always be in range. The burst is still there, the stun combo, and the rediculous AoE.

And even if it is terrible, Annie, Fiddle and Karth would still be better picks than Vlad.


The most reliable brand combo is E->Q->W. Losing range on E is the same as losing range on his entire combo minus the R.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 14 2011 20:12 GMT
#304
On September 15 2011 04:51 lurked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 02:10 Craton wrote:
So this seems as good a place as any to discuss this:

Stream threads in the LoL subforum have reached the point where they are just clutter. There are 11 stream threads on the first two pages. Every few days it seems another one is created and by and large these threads have little to no activity. The only exceptions are the particularly high-rated people like Loci and Smash.

I would personally prefer to have stream threads moved to user streams, where every other stream thread resides (be it for BW, SC2, Chess, or Misc). A stream sub-subforum would also work, but this seems an unlikely implementation.


I 100% agree with this, and I don't understand why it isn't already that way.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=29
This subforum is in the "TL Community" section of the forum and, as far as I know, the TL Community isn't exclusive to SC players, and every single user stream thread goes in there.

It would be a lot better, and would bring up the quality of LoL subforums significantly.


agree x3, it was cool when it was only like 4 or so of us, now not so much. I submitted a stream application thingy, so hopefully my stream thread will get moved to that subsection.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 14 2011 20:15 GMT
#305
MOONBEAR I NEED YOU!

When I click on my minimap it doesnt move my camera anymore. HELP!
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 14 2011 20:16 GMT
#306
Is it just me or is Shaco's deceive much shorter range than last patch O.o
Other than that, I love the jitb changes.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 14 2011 20:17 GMT
#307
On September 15 2011 05:10 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 05:03 Requizen wrote:
On September 15 2011 04:58 L wrote:
On September 15 2011 02:32 HazMat wrote:
Dunno how Vlad will go from one of the worst AP to one of the best because of 1 change to an item that isn't even that amazing on him.

Because they just nerfed the fuck out of the top two AP carries as well. Brand and Ori's nerfs are massive.


Eh, they're nerfs, but they're not "never gonna play this champ again" nerfs. Maybe Ori's are more severe (I don't play her) but Brand is still going to be a monster for the most part. 5 damage on PoF isn't even going to be noticeable, and the range just means you need to be better about landing his other spells first, as you can't rely on his E to always be in range. The burst is still there, the stun combo, and the rediculous AoE.

And even if it is terrible, Annie, Fiddle and Karth would still be better picks than Vlad.


The most reliable brand combo is E->Q->W. Losing range on E is the same as losing range on his entire combo minus the R.


/shrug

You may be right, but I think he's still a very viable pick everywhere he was before. He was pretty much straight up one of the best mages period, this won't knock him down to obscurity. If anything, it just means that people will level Q over E if it's too bad, which is alright since Q hits harder, is cheaper on mana, and has a longer range anyway.
It's your boy Guzma!
JonsaBoy
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Denmark457 Posts
September 14 2011 20:17 GMT
#308
On September 15 2011 05:16 HazMat wrote:
Is it just me or is Shaco's deceive much shorter range than last patch O.o
Other than that, I love the jitb changes.


cant catch shaco

forever useless sheriff
TLMS
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 14 2011 20:18 GMT
#309
On September 15 2011 05:17 JonsaBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 05:16 HazMat wrote:
Is it just me or is Shaco's deceive much shorter range than last patch O.o
Other than that, I love the jitb changes.


cant catch shaco

forever useless sheriff

Solopush Shaco so legit. Tiamat so legit too. I think Shaco might be good again.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
September 14 2011 20:19 GMT
#310
On September 15 2011 05:08 Alaric wrote:
Morgana vs Morgana mid is so duuuuuuumb. Boots/pots + scaling mp5 > dr + scaling mana, though.


Tell me about it. I played in a brand vs brand mid yesterday, he had boots/pots and I had dr. I got wrecked, but that maybe because I'm terrible. I'm still trying to figure it out
JonsaBoy
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Denmark457 Posts
September 14 2011 20:19 GMT
#311
Almost had you. I had a 10 minute lag spike so couldnt see how much health you escaped with.
TLMS
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 14 2011 20:20 GMT
#312
mirror matches in general tend to be a snorefest, 1 mistake and you lose 100%, and ur mistake may even be runes/first items/masteries
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
September 14 2011 20:22 GMT
#313
On September 15 2011 05:19 Raisauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 05:08 Alaric wrote:
Morgana vs Morgana mid is so duuuuuuumb. Boots/pots + scaling mp5 > dr + scaling mana, though.


Tell me about it. I played in a brand vs brand mid yesterday, he had boots/pots and I had dr. I got wrecked, but that maybe because I'm terrible. I'm still trying to figure it out

I once got really hardly harassed in a Ashe vs Ashe where he gean DB and me cloth + 5pots (for faster wriggles). I kinda won the lane though 'cause he was harassing and I was farming.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
JonsaBoy
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Denmark457 Posts
September 14 2011 20:25 GMT
#314
Don't like not having announcer tell me who feeds first blood btw. I need to know who to blame. Give me back old kill messages please.
TLMS
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
September 14 2011 20:26 GMT
#315
On September 15 2011 04:53 lurked wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 04:42 Noocta wrote:
Meh.. Always the same champions who get skins. :/
How many did KogMaw got in the past year ? Annie ?

And now how many for Swain, Leblanc, Trundle Irelia, or even Urgot ? TT


Well yeah, that sucks and I feel the pain, but it's quite understandable that they'd make new skins for champions that more people actually play regularly, as they'll sell better, and skins are Riot's bread and butter.

I'm pretty sure the champions you named are gonna get some love eventually in the form of skins, buff, etc., but I'm quite sure it's the best business decision they can do right now.


I understand this kind of logic but then..

Where the hell do they see Kog being played more than Irelia ? lol
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 14 2011 20:27 GMT
#316
soraka played every 2nd match and has 2 ugly skins, so...
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 20:29:53
September 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#317
so now they have lots of qt female melee dps why dont' they make a big manly ranged dps instead of ez the fruitcake, corki the old man in a flying piece of shit, and lolgot
this post is dedicated to beau

why didn't they reset my w/l
qq

yay i got kayle for free~~
:)
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
September 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#318
On September 15 2011 05:07 Southlight wrote:
Malz UP need buffs.

Most UP, Riot should buff him so i can carry myself to plat season 2 with him
You can't milk those!
JonsaBoy
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Denmark457 Posts
September 14 2011 20:34 GMT
#319
If malz ever gets a buff I'm done with mid AP carries true story.
TLMS
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
September 14 2011 20:34 GMT
#320


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