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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 06 2011 07:33 GMT
#1261
I like how on your team the cs is in descending order lol
And when I saw "Illusions" on trundle I almost thought it was NeoIllusions and was like WUT?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 08:58:04
August 06 2011 08:57 GMT
#1262
Illusions is someone else, my Akali took out her chopsticks and feasted on that baddie today.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 06 2011 09:21 GMT
#1263
My Trundle isn't that bad.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 06 2011 09:40 GMT
#1264
First time I check chauster stream, he's playing brand and missing like 8/10 Q's, aren't top players supposed to hit atleast 8/10 instead of miss them:|
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 06 2011 09:41 GMT
#1265
On August 06 2011 18:40 JackDino wrote:
First time I check chauster stream, he's playing brand and missing like 8/10 Q's, aren't top players supposed to hit atleast 8/10 instead of miss them:|


Everyone has bad games (or skillshots) here and there. If you keep watching, see how he does in team fights. That matters more than landing Q in lane imoimo.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 09:45:40
August 06 2011 09:44 GMT
#1266
On August 06 2011 18:41 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 18:40 JackDino wrote:
First time I check chauster stream, he's playing brand and missing like 8/10 Q's, aren't top players supposed to hit atleast 8/10 instead of miss them:|


Everyone has bad games (or skillshots) here and there. If you keep watching, see how he does in team fights. That matters more than landing Q in lane imoimo.

Well he misses his Q in teamfights and barely does any damage in teamfights(his W's were off too)~~ Just surprised to see him play like that.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
August 06 2011 09:57 GMT
#1267
On August 06 2011 18:21 NeoIllusions wrote:
My Trundle isn't that bad.


How would I know? YOU WON'T EVEN PLAY WITH ME!!! D:<
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
August 06 2011 10:15 GMT
#1268
Holy crap, that skarner ultimate is gonna be veeery annoying...
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 11:31:08
August 06 2011 11:25 GMT
#1269
On August 06 2011 09:38 Shikyo wrote:
So doublelift would require donations just to be able to live life, and CLG is asking for donations despite getting over 10.000$ a month just from streaming?

O.k.

It always amuses me how people try to guilt trip others for doing things.

"But think of all the starving kids in XYZ country you could feed by not buying that IPod!"

On August 06 2011 15:41 gtrsrs wrote:
free gragas plz
when has gragas last been free? i have like 3 weeks to get a win with him
have 77/80 champs with a ranked win
need wukong, yorick, gragas
gragas hasn't been free since like november or something ridiculous
and fuck me if i'm going to buy that piece of shit

free gragas

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Champion_Rotation_Schedule_(Season_One)#New_Classification
twitch.tv/cratonz
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 06 2011 11:40 GMT
#1270
On August 06 2011 20:25 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 09:38 Shikyo wrote:
So doublelift would require donations just to be able to live life, and CLG is asking for donations despite getting over 10.000$ a month just from streaming?

O.k.

It always amuses me how people try to guilt trip others for doing things.

"But think of all the starving kids in XYZ country you could feed by not buying that IPod!"

He's not buying an iPod... he's begging for money donations despite making a ton from coaching/streaming. But sure, whatevs, people can pay whoever they want.

Mundo too good btw
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17262 Posts
August 06 2011 11:51 GMT
#1271
Yes, I'm "sure" he's making 120,000+ a year from streaming.

l0l
twitch.tv/cratonz
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 12:26:45
August 06 2011 12:06 GMT
#1272
According to Hotshot CLG altogether made $60k over the course of the year according to them through their website. That includes streaming + ads on the site. A chunk of that is taken out for the site itself and then the remainder is split up between everyone involved, and there are more than 5 people involved in CLG's team + site.

jiji, chauster, hotshot, elementz, kobe, saintvicious, doublelift was on the team at one point and was thus making part of the profits during that time, the site runner - forgot his name, etc

Each of them are probably making less than $8k/year if that from the site itself aka streaming. Considering how many hours they stream/day, they make barely any money from it. And sometimes to go to tournies still need to pay out of their pocket. They're not making 10k/month streaming.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 12:13:09
August 06 2011 12:10 GMT
#1273
Why so surprised, AFAIK hotshot and regi gets decent money from streaming/web ads/sponsors/coaching/donations, 10.000/month for CLG is not impossible.

edit. Not mention tournament prizes yet.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
August 06 2011 12:26 GMT
#1274
They should just stream on Justin.tv, it's more rewarding. lulz
Look at TLO or Sheth's marathons who made 2000$ in 24h.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 12:44:02
August 06 2011 12:43 GMT
#1275
On August 06 2011 21:10 emucxg wrote:
Why so surprised, AFAIK hotshot and regi gets decent money from streaming/web ads/sponsors/coaching/donations, 10.000/month for CLG is not impossible.

edit. Not mention tournament prizes yet.

The thing is, as soon as CLG announced they would be going to Germany (before razer said they'd pay for the trip) HS said the tickets would cost him all the money he made from streaming.

Now I don't know how they're splitting the revenue, but if the team leader is paying for team expenses and he would have burned all his income for 9k worth of plane tickets he either keeps a small part of the total revenue or they don't make that much money at all.


On August 06 2011 21:26 -Zoda- wrote:
They should just stream on Justin.tv, it's more rewarding. lulz
Look at TLO or Sheth's marathons who made 2000$ in 24h.

own3d is one of their sponsors.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 12:48:31
August 06 2011 12:46 GMT
#1276
On August 06 2011 21:26 -Zoda- wrote:
They should just stream on Justin.tv, it's more rewarding. lulz
Look at TLO or Sheth's marathons who made 2000$ in 24h.

own3d.tv is half profit but its not for only US viewers so it's close to the same and hotshotgg often streams for over 10 hours in one sitting. But keep thinking his streaming earns him nothing despite him having 5-10x the viewers of TLO and Sheth for instance~.

EDIT: Okay that seems really strange that you guys are saying they're not making much money at all o.O That totally goes against everything I've read and heard, 60k total for CLG for the entire year indeed seems relatively low, it's really difficult to believe. If that's true I think they should switch to justin.tv
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 06 2011 15:19 GMT
#1277
Apparently NoS is currently feeding on BOTH teams on HSGG stream. He's playing Urgot on HSGG's team and Fiddle on the enemy team.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17262 Posts
August 06 2011 15:48 GMT
#1278
I don't think he was playing that Urgot.
twitch.tv/cratonz
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 06 2011 16:17 GMT
#1279
On August 06 2011 21:46 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 21:26 -Zoda- wrote:
They should just stream on Justin.tv, it's more rewarding. lulz
Look at TLO or Sheth's marathons who made 2000$ in 24h.

own3d.tv is half profit but its not for only US viewers so it's close to the same and hotshotgg often streams for over 10 hours in one sitting. But keep thinking his streaming earns him nothing despite him having 5-10x the viewers of TLO and Sheth for instance~.

EDIT: Okay that seems really strange that you guys are saying they're not making much money at all o.O That totally goes against everything I've read and heard, 60k total for CLG for the entire year indeed seems relatively low, it's really difficult to believe. If that's true I think they should switch to justin.tv

I feel like they're waiting for own3d.tv to grow since they pretty much built 90% of its viewerbase. Own3d looked like it was going to become the go-to game streaming website until justin.tv opened twitch.tv.
If own3d gets new funding they will be able to pay streamers more, otherwise I don't know if it's worth for the teams to pressure own3d .
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
August 06 2011 16:28 GMT
#1280
Or maybe that 60k is only for CLG website alone. i.E sponsorship by razer and bigfootnetworks and whatever.
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