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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
May 30 2011 09:38 GMT
#15961
On May 30 2011 18:13 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 17:56 Shiragaku wrote:
DX I just went out to eat with my buddy and sister and I see a shitstorm. Can someone summarize in one sentence of how we went from e-sport fanboy drama to Shikyo (again)


Shikyo made a post about e-sport fanboy drama.


tl;dr Shikyo posted
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
May 30 2011 10:10 GMT
#15962
zzz Shikyo
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
May 30 2011 10:57 GMT
#15963
On May 30 2011 18:29 exo6yte wrote:
I dropped 200 rating, but I think it's the best thing that's happened to me in a while.


I also dropped elo.
Except now I'm a FULLY CERTIFIED FEEDING NOOB with triple-digit elo!
Hi5
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 30 2011 11:15 GMT
#15964
why haven't any1 made a Vayne thread yet? i need somewhere to vent and QQ about how ridiculously imba she is right now...
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
May 30 2011 12:06 GMT
#15965
On May 30 2011 20:15 Shizuru~ wrote:
why haven't any1 made a Vayne thread yet? i need somewhere to vent and QQ about how ridiculously imba she is right now...

Pretty sure you can use the shikyo thread for that as he doesn't use it anyways.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 12:09 GMT
#15966
On May 30 2011 16:48 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 13:38 Neo7 wrote:
Guitar got banned YOU WILL BE MISSED (even though I see you on some kind of account almost every day).

Poor guy doesn't even know why he got banned either.
[image loading]


Yo guitar pal, the reason why you got banned was martyring. Read the commandments for forum.


It wasn't really martyring the second time around, he was just quoting it to comment on it (hopefully nothing snarky) but then he decided to edit it out, of course leaving the quote up. He's no genius.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 30 2011 12:16 GMT
#15967
On May 30 2011 20:15 Shizuru~ wrote:
why haven't any1 made a Vayne thread yet? i need somewhere to vent and QQ about how ridiculously imba she is right now...

What do you mean imba? i don't see what can be conceptually wrong about %hp true damage
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 12:25:12
May 30 2011 12:20 GMT
#15968
On May 30 2011 21:16 SagaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:15 Shizuru~ wrote:
why haven't any1 made a Vayne thread yet? i need somewhere to vent and QQ about how ridiculously imba she is right now...

What do you mean imba? i don't see what can be conceptually wrong about %hp true damage

Yea!
Inorite?
Everyone knows you just have to get more hp to counter true damage!
That means MORE WARMOGS!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 12:41:26
May 30 2011 12:26 GMT
#15969
On May 30 2011 21:09 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 16:48 cascades wrote:
On May 30 2011 13:38 Neo7 wrote:
Guitar got banned YOU WILL BE MISSED (even though I see you on some kind of account almost every day).

Poor guy doesn't even know why he got banned either.
[image loading]


Yo guitar pal, the reason why you got banned was martyring. Read the commandments for forum.


It wasn't really martyring the second time around, he was just quoting it to comment on it (hopefully nothing snarky) but then he decided to edit it out, of course leaving the quote up. He's no genius.

"inb4" is forbidden, he also indeed was martyring, quoting a post without adding anything is useless and it's mostly an issue with him not learning anything from the bans(hence perm), at least that's my thought process here.

And I have no idea how my posts get so much attention. o.O I'm not allowed to defend myself against incorrect and unprovoked accusations?

Also complaining about me trying to help people(which is quite a bit more useful than the people who have their entire history consist of posts calling me stupid) is... o.O Just what do you want of this forum? Also my posts aren't "brag"(okay they might seem so, in reality I just talk about it being way easier to play at a higher elo), but yet I don't see people complaining about 5HITCOMBO's brag-screenshots(where he even brags in the chat after the game). So many double standards around here.


In any case, I was thinking about possible gangplank builds and I've come up with double philo(and 1-2 hog if you can get them fast) -> trinity force with tank, with FoN and Randuins and maybe Aegis, point would be to have tons of movespeed, AoE slow, and some team help. I was also considering adding in Shurelyas Reverie for the additional movespeed and cdr. Final item could be something like Starks since armor pen and aspd are the stats that best synergize with the gigantic attack damage bonus of Q and E.

Thoughts?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
May 30 2011 13:04 GMT
#15970
On May 30 2011 21:20 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 21:16 SagaZ wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:15 Shizuru~ wrote:
why haven't any1 made a Vayne thread yet? i need somewhere to vent and QQ about how ridiculously imba she is right now...

What do you mean imba? i don't see what can be conceptually wrong about %hp true damage

Yea!
Inorite?
Everyone knows you just have to get more hp to counter true damage!
That means MORE WARMOGS!



not even 6 warmogs can save you from the wrath of %max hp true dmg! 2 sec CD tumble! knockback+stun 2 in one! Move speed that makes Yi looks like a steam train!

what do we do when not even warmog can save us?
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 30 2011 13:16 GMT
#15971
Buff warmogs! And vayne gets auto CC'd 5 seconds as a game mechanic.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 30 2011 13:25 GMT
#15972
On May 30 2011 21:26 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 21:09 bumatlarge wrote:
On May 30 2011 16:48 cascades wrote:
On May 30 2011 13:38 Neo7 wrote:
Guitar got banned YOU WILL BE MISSED (even though I see you on some kind of account almost every day).

Poor guy doesn't even know why he got banned either.
[image loading]


Yo guitar pal, the reason why you got banned was martyring. Read the commandments for forum.


It wasn't really martyring the second time around, he was just quoting it to comment on it (hopefully nothing snarky) but then he decided to edit it out, of course leaving the quote up. He's no genius.

"inb4" is forbidden, he also indeed was martyring, quoting a post without adding anything is useless and it's mostly an issue with him not learning anything from the bans(hence perm), at least that's my thought process here.

And I have no idea how my posts get so much attention. o.O I'm not allowed to defend myself against incorrect and unprovoked accusations?

Also complaining about me trying to help people(which is quite a bit more useful than the people who have their entire history consist of posts calling me stupid) is... o.O Just what do you want of this forum? Also my posts aren't "brag"(okay they might seem so, in reality I just talk about it being way easier to play at a higher elo), but yet I don't see people complaining about 5HITCOMBO's brag-screenshots(where he even brags in the chat after the game). So many double standards around here.


Thoughts?

There is no double standards because the difference between you and 5hit is the same as between any progamer and someone who thought woohoo after he entered gold league: he knows his shit as he as proven. He can be a aggressive son of a bitch who rages at you for wrong but he also has a good side; in that he knows what he is talking about. Youre just giving out wrong advice which people would be better off without it.
Look, if everybody says something about you its either
a) Theyre right and you have to swallow the tough pill and your pride
b) Youre a god among men
Look, I think you might remember Jazriel. I think some people at the US liquidparty thought you were similar to him. The difference between you and poor ol' Jazriel is that you're polite and relatively friendly, while Jazriel is immature and aggressive.
Personally I dont have any problems with you sharing stories etc, I did the same when I had low elo and I still do when I find I have something worth sharing.
In the woods, there lurks..
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
May 30 2011 13:27 GMT
#15973
On May 30 2011 13:05 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 11:41 Shikyo wrote:
On May 30 2011 11:17 dnastyx wrote:
On May 30 2011 06:51 BlackPaladin wrote:
On May 30 2011 03:37 HazMat wrote:
Can anyone link the regi thread?


It was Regi offering $10k for someone to wipe the tears from hotshotgg's face. First post was Regi saying "Gotta go big, bro."

Most. Epic Thing. Ever.

On May 30 2011 06:19 cascades wrote:
Why is MF so popular now in high level? I understand she has good lane presence, dmg + mobility but she lacks a repositioning skill.


If you can pick the highest damage dealing ranged carry while sufficiently protecting her with your comp vs their comp, why wouldn't you? ;O


Also, caller is not such a bad player, although a mega troll, so really you can't insult his abilities at this game because he at least has a decent amount of game knowledge. When you play with higher ELO you *USUALLY* tend to learn how to play the game better.
Skikyo on the other hand is actually serious about a lot of his 1300 elo games, similar to Jazriel.
This explains enough for me.


Caller still managed to get to 1700 playing triforce morde before giving up and letting #s smurf all day.

Shikyo can't break 1400, complains all the time about it, then turns around and says "Oh hey, take this advice! It's from me, I'm a trusted source."

When I give advice it's either 1. being told to me by a 2k+ elo player or 2. me reading / seeing it done by a 2k+ player, my advice isn't my own advice.

That and I'm 1450 <.< get your facts straight

also that's 1700 US elo


hi just to prove you wrong

Here's a t-test I ran. These are players around 1450 elo, including you, Shikyo. I took 15 players from both US and EU players at 15175-15190. I then calculated their win percentages, which came out to 0.635792853 for US and 0.569636062 for EU.

Then, assuming equal variance (due to the ELO system) I ran a 2 sample independent t-test and came up with a t-value of 0.983919114. At a .25 level of significance, the model concludes (two sided) that there is a difference between the US win rate and the EU win rate at the same ELO.

Namely, the US has a higher winrate than the EU at the same ELO.

Your argument is that EU players at 1450 elo are equivalent to US players at 1700 elo. In fact, statistics show that US players at 1450 elo are better than EU players at 1450 elo.

In the name of guitarasaurus, I hope that me running this statistics test (which is totally not rigorous but is still rigorous enough compared to the little you have had to offer the LoL community-which is to say, nothing.) will prove you wrong once and for all.

I wanted to quote this post because there were a couple refering to it but are confused about the results. The significant value here is .983919114 (as this falls into the 3rd standard deviation and is past the point of .05). The level of significance is regarding to the sample size present (unless my statistics is incorrect). Namely since the t-value is statistically significant, it can't be random chance that US has a higher win rate than EURO. Since it is commonly accepted that better players will have a higher win rate than bad players, the conclusion is that US players are better than EURO players. Now if that means that EURO 1450 is US 1350 or 1400 or even 1200 we can't tell from this test, but it isn't possible for EURO 1450 to be US 1700.
ManBearPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Belgium207 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 14:01:19
May 30 2011 13:59 GMT
#15974
You could also interpret it to mean that US 1450 is easier to beat than EU 1450 no?

At any rate, simply going from higher win % to higher skill level is problematic to say the least.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
May 30 2011 14:17 GMT
#15975
OK, from now on I will only play co-op vs AI on my laggy netbook, as I am unable to win games otherwise at 5fps.

Only 1 each day for the win bonus.

Also, Picked up Xin. Using a jungle build in lane ftl
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
May 30 2011 14:21 GMT
#15976
Tibbers really needs a Spanish Inquisition skin.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
May 30 2011 14:39 GMT
#15977
On May 30 2011 23:17 57 Corvette wrote:
OK, from now on I will only play co-op vs AI on my laggy netbook, as I am unable to win games otherwise at 5fps.

Only 1 each day for the win bonus.

Also, Picked up Xin. Using a jungle build in lane ftl


One would imagine using a lane build in lane
Everyone needs a nemesis.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 14:42:16
May 30 2011 14:41 GMT
#15978
On May 30 2011 23:39 lynx.oblige wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 23:17 57 Corvette wrote:
OK, from now on I will only play co-op vs AI on my laggy netbook, as I am unable to win games otherwise at 5fps.

Only 1 each day for the win bonus.

Also, Picked up Xin. Using a jungle build in lane ftl


One would imagine using a lane build in lane


Yeah, but when people see me solotop (on TT ofc) with cloth + 5hpots, they get confused. I never die because of the hpots, and 80% of the time i pick up a kill or two when i grab red (after first tele back, pick up razer, vamp sceptre and if doing well wriggles) and gank bottom.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
May 30 2011 15:19 GMT
#15979
What? You are solotop, go back, do red, gank bot, and go back top?

Movespeed Xin ftw?
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 15:24:05
May 30 2011 15:23 GMT
#15980
On May 31 2011 00:19 -Kato- wrote:
What? You are solotop, go back, do red, gank bot, and go back top?

Movespeed Xin ftw?


No, no movespeed. Remember this is on TT, so everything is a lot smaller.
Well, I am not going to gank bottom if the top lane is pushed to the tower, but if it is around mid or farther then I will. Otherwise, I will probably go kill my lane opponent, or at least try.

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