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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 04:26:48
May 30 2011 04:25 GMT
#15941
IMO
We need a thread for
LoL E-sports DRAMA

Possible stuff to discuss:
HotshotGG calling TSM cheaters in season one finale
Regi vs. Chaox rage wars
Why westrice is good/bad
Why EG/CLG/TSM/RS/TL will win
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
May 30 2011 04:29 GMT
#15942
Hahah good idea. Lol ESPORTS DRAMA has been pretty ripe of late.
Retvrn to Forvms
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
May 30 2011 04:30 GMT
#15943
Oh yea, I'm about to hit 1.5k posts.
Do I get a new icon? :3
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 30 2011 04:35 GMT
#15944
FIrst rule of icons is you do not discuss icons. Second rule of icons is flying monkeys hate icons.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 30 2011 04:36 GMT
#15945
On May 30 2011 13:30 Abenson wrote:
Oh yea, I'm about to hit 1.5k posts.
Do I get a new icon? :3

yup. And we shouldn't discuss this anymore, dont want monkeys in this thread
In the woods, there lurks..
Neo7
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States922 Posts
May 30 2011 04:38 GMT
#15946
Guitar got banned YOU WILL BE MISSED (even though I see you on some kind of account almost every day).

Poor guy doesn't even know why he got banned either.
[image loading]
It takes an idiot to do cool things.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 30 2011 04:41 GMT
#15947
NOOOO!!

Fuck this, will be missed. And the reason is just like "i fucked up, here , there and here again, whoopsidaysies"
In the woods, there lurks..
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 30 2011 05:19 GMT
#15948
On May 30 2011 13:38 Neo7 wrote:
Guitar got banned YOU WILL BE MISSED (even though I see you on some kind of account almost every day).

Poor guy doesn't even know why he got banned either.
[image loading]

LOL too goood
:)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 30 2011 05:36 GMT
#15949
Playing LoL with laptop pad and no mouse is hilariously fun.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 05:38:25
May 30 2011 05:38 GMT
#15950
On May 30 2011 13:03 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 10:56 Brees wrote:
On May 30 2011 09:56 BlackPaladin wrote:
On May 30 2011 08:53 ArC_man wrote:
Why are people calling MF the highest damage ranged carry? Sivir, Twitch, Kog, Vayne, and Corki all do arguably (or unarguably) more damage.


Not sure if serious.....

MF does more damage than all of them, except maybe vayne at this point because vayne is op as fuck. And vayne was banned in most games in the tourny that I watched, the one she wasn't dyrus of all people raped with her lol.

I don't think you've ever done 1v1 vs corki as MF. MF wins. Every time. Unless the MF is bad.


wrong on so many levels, corki takes a dump on mf


MF corki matchup is MF favored if the MF isn't bad.


no way...MF has avoidable damage 1-5 and corki has guaranteed damage if they ever look to duke it out. Id argue that anyone that gets hit by double up is retarded. once they both reach 6 its not even close since MF's ult is aoe and corki's is more single target based. dont see how its mf favored at all

not to mention the blind
Brees on in
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
May 30 2011 06:12 GMT
#15951

At a .25 level of significance, the model concludes (two sided) that there is a difference between the US win rate and the EU win rate at the same ELO.

Just curious, why a .25 level of significance, isn't that frikkin huuge?
Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 30 2011 06:29 GMT
#15952
On May 30 2011 15:12 BouBou.865 wrote:
Show nested quote +

At a .25 level of significance, the model concludes (two sided) that there is a difference between the US win rate and the EU win rate at the same ELO.

Just curious, why a .25 level of significance, isn't that frikkin huuge?

only a euro would be so eager to defend his own kind that he would nitpick on something like this.

Yes, a .25 level of significance is pretty unusual for a statistics test. But its not huge like you say it is, in fact it is used fairly commonly in areas where precision is as needed, such as healthcare. Even if it is a poor alpha value, the alternate conclusion would be that it is impossible to refute any difference between 1450 US Elo and 1450 EU Elo. Either way, Shikyo's wrong.

I could've had a smaller level, sure. But I would have to collect a lot more data (to increase n, the sample size, on my results). and quite frankly all of the data would have further demonstrated trend wise (as people in the US in the 1450 elo bracket typically have around a 5:3 win/loss ratio while players in the EU typicall had around a 5:4 win loss ratio).

And if you don't think its rigorous enough I welcome you to run the test for me. You'll need around 40 or so samples from each side at least, but closer to 350. Enjoy.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
May 30 2011 06:33 GMT
#15953
On May 30 2011 15:29 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 15:12 BouBou.865 wrote:

At a .25 level of significance, the model concludes (two sided) that there is a difference between the US win rate and the EU win rate at the same ELO.

Just curious, why a .25 level of significance, isn't that frikkin huuge?

only a euro would be so eager to defend his own kind that he would nitpick on something like this.

Yes, a .25 level of significance is pretty unusual for a statistics test. But its not huge like you say it is, in fact it is used fairly commonly in areas where precision is as needed, such as healthcare. Even if it is a poor alpha value, the alternate conclusion would be that it is impossible to refute any difference between 1450 US Elo and 1450 EU Elo. Either way, Shikyo's wrong.

I could've had a smaller level, sure. But I would have to collect a lot more data (to increase n, the sample size, on my results). and quite frankly all of the data would have further demonstrated trend wise (as people in the US in the 1450 elo bracket typically have around a 5:3 win/loss ratio while players in the EU typicall had around a 5:4 win loss ratio).

And if you don't think its rigorous enough I welcome you to run the test for me. You'll need around 40 or so samples from each side at least, but closer to 350. Enjoy.

What he's trying to say is that he failed to reject the ho
:)
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
May 30 2011 06:39 GMT
#15954
It's the pikeys that ruin the EU server win rate, trust me on that one.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
May 30 2011 06:47 GMT
#15955
I don't know why gtrsrs is getting banned recently but it is quite funny
Everyone needs a nemesis.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
May 30 2011 07:48 GMT
#15956
On May 30 2011 13:38 Neo7 wrote:
Guitar got banned YOU WILL BE MISSED (even though I see you on some kind of account almost every day).

Poor guy doesn't even know why he got banned either.
[image loading]


Yo guitar pal, the reason why you got banned was martyring. Read the commandments for forum.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
BouBou.865
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands814 Posts
May 30 2011 08:04 GMT
#15957
On May 30 2011 15:29 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 15:12 BouBou.865 wrote:

At a .25 level of significance, the model concludes (two sided) that there is a difference between the US win rate and the EU win rate at the same ELO.

Just curious, why a .25 level of significance, isn't that frikkin huuge?

only a euro would be so eager to defend his own kind that he would nitpick on something like this.

Yes, a .25 level of significance is pretty unusual for a statistics test. But its not huge like you say it is, in fact it is used fairly commonly in areas where precision is as needed, such as healthcare. Even if it is a poor alpha value, the alternate conclusion would be that it is impossible to refute any difference between 1450 US Elo and 1450 EU Elo. Either way, Shikyo's wrong.

I could've had a smaller level, sure. But I would have to collect a lot more data (to increase n, the sample size, on my results). and quite frankly all of the data would have further demonstrated trend wise (as people in the US in the 1450 elo bracket typically have around a 5:3 win/loss ratio while players in the EU typicall had around a 5:4 win loss ratio).

And if you don't think its rigorous enough I welcome you to run the test for me. You'll need around 40 or so samples from each side at least, but closer to 350. Enjoy.

Don't take it so personal man. I suck ass at math, I just remember from my exams about 5 weeks ago that 0.05 or 0.10 were more common. I don't believe the whole EU r bettar hype, and I definately am in no position to comment on most people's flaws, so I try to refrain from doing so.

And the first rule of Team Liquid League of Legends subforum is that Shikyo is always wrong.

Playing League of Legends. IGN: Plain Skill
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
May 30 2011 08:56 GMT
#15958
DX I just went out to eat with my buddy and sister and I see a shitstorm. Can someone summarize in one sentence of how we went from e-sport fanboy drama to Shikyo (again)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
May 30 2011 09:13 GMT
#15959
On May 30 2011 17:56 Shiragaku wrote:
DX I just went out to eat with my buddy and sister and I see a shitstorm. Can someone summarize in one sentence of how we went from e-sport fanboy drama to Shikyo (again)


Shikyo made a post about e-sport fanboy drama.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Morzas
Profile Joined August 2005
United States387 Posts
May 30 2011 09:29 GMT
#15960
I dropped 200 rating, but I think it's the best thing that's happened to me in a while.
What has four wheels and flies? Stephen Hawking on LSD!
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