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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 20:12:40
May 28 2011 20:08 GMT
#15821
On May 29 2011 03:05 Woony wrote:
I see MF picked like in every one of those games right now, even if there is no Ashe or Cait on either team. Is she that good (I always thought Ashe/Cait/Corki are better) or is it because Ashe/Cait are banned every game?



MF has the highest dmg output for a carry, I think, maybe except for vayne.

On May 29 2011 04:37 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 03:49 0123456789 wrote:
On May 29 2011 03:33 TheYango wrote:
On May 29 2011 02:50 0123456789 wrote:
I feel like the whole support/carry strat is really vulnerable to burst and CC lanes. The whole support/carry bot strat is riding on a very fragile string that needs to get the farm to transition well out of laning phase, and can be abused soon, because it gives up a lot of early control.

I thought part of the reason it started becoming popular was because of that whole discussion where Chauster/Doublelift's Blitz+Ali fought Saintvicious/Chaox's Taric+MF to a standstill, and so people started thinking that burst/CC lanes weren't as good against babysits as everyone thought?


Blitz + Ali is not a good enough lane combo. You've got to go deeper than that.

More bust, reliable burst like annie sion, maybe heimer, lux, malz, etc


So you'd say stuff like annie/sion/malz + blitz/ali/lux would do the trick? Aka reliable burst + someone who's cc heavy and not that farm dependant?


It's a feeling, so don't take what I say too heavily. Unless it's been tested, etc, it's just theorycraft.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
May 28 2011 20:32 GMT
#15822
On May 29 2011 05:06 r.Evo wrote:
Sidenote: Apparently there was a massban vs flamers, at least on EU:

"SOFIABG: Marten The Blind has been banned for 274 years."


Quoted to make sure this doesn't get lost and give our resident EU expert a chance to comment.
FADC
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
May 29 2011 02:25 GMT
#15823
CLG Fans gonna rage over Dyrus' 12-3 vayne
Vayne mega-nerfed next patch
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 29 2011 02:26 GMT
#15824
On May 29 2011 11:25 Abenson wrote:
CLG Fans gonna rage over Dyrus' 12-3 vayne
Vayne mega-nerfed next patch

Meh. Vayne is pretty damn broken imo anyways. It was a bad design in the first place. %true damage is just dumb imo
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 02:41:57
May 29 2011 02:41 GMT
#15825
How come Olaf gets picked so rarely in tournys?

On May 29 2011 11:26 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2011 11:25 Abenson wrote:
CLG Fans gonna rage over Dyrus' 12-3 vayne
Vayne mega-nerfed next patch

Meh. Vayne is pretty damn broken imo anyways. It was a bad design in the first place. %true damage is just dumb imo

Vayne top 5 champ of designs that cause "WTF were you thinking Riot?!"
twitch.tv/cratonz
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 29 2011 03:05 GMT
#15826
Hey, eve, twitch, and shaco totally worked out in terms of balance, let's give another champ stealth. And true dmg!
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 29 2011 03:05 GMT
#15827
On May 29 2011 12:05 HazMat wrote:
Hey, eve, twitch, and shaco totally worked out in terms of balance, let's give another champ stealth. And true dmg!

Don't forget it's almost impossible to run away from her.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
yazu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States255 Posts
May 29 2011 03:10 GMT
#15828
Nah EG was just superb. Well played by them. The fault here is that CLG should not have had to play against them... and this seeding is so fucked up. What the fuck was riot thinking..... Sigh this entire tournament is losing its credibility with all them dcs and shit.
g.cuisine
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
May 29 2011 03:11 GMT
#15829
Holy shit, when did Doublelift get so good. Dat Poppy.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 03:14:21
May 29 2011 03:12 GMT
#15830
On May 29 2011 12:11 Niton wrote:
Holy shit, when did Doublelift get so good. Dat Poppy.

Doublelift has always been good at small-scale plays like that, he's just prone to being way out of position or having bad map awareness (both of which can be mitigated with good teamplay).

edit: @Hynda: Welcome to every single event Phreak has cast. His map awareness is worse than Doublelift's.
We did. You did. Yes we can. No. || http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/crate.html || twitch.tv/crate3333
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
May 29 2011 03:13 GMT
#15831
Am I the only one but is the quailty of the casting in the Season 1 Q just atrociously bad? I feel like they are never ever watching the minimap. Missing out on so many killls going "oh oops we missed that one".

I can't tell if it's supposed to be a fun action type of casting or a analytical because they are doing neither. Perhaps I'm just spoiled from Broodwar and SC2
Truez
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia147 Posts
May 29 2011 03:30 GMT
#15832
Treeman(Flash/Ignite)+Xin Zhao(Flash/Exhuast) bot > all fotm bot lanes so far. Beaten Cait/Janna, Soraka/ashe, Taric/Garen, Cait/soraka + Ali/Blitz + w/e champs you can think of.

Level1 you have insane burst/cc with Xin's q, root, exhaust and ignite. Get brush control level1, let xin last hit while Treeman zones them from inside (fear of ranged root into Xin follow up). Once level 2 hits just zone even harder with those little sapling buggers, and keep letting Xin cs. If jungle ganks just kill jungle lol, you've enough burst to kill him, then peace before laners can reach you, although I do normally b to get a ward at lvl3ish.

Seriously have not lost a lane with this combo yet.

Note: Games can still be lost due to bad team mates, but the early game lead you gain should carry bads pretty far.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 29 2011 03:36 GMT
#15833
Flash on xin real?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 29 2011 03:44 GMT
#15834
how does marcou still have his job? seriously. everything this guy touches turns to shit

On May 29 2011 12:36 HazMat wrote:
Flash on xin real?


How could you not run flash on xin O_o
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 29 2011 03:49 GMT
#15835
Because he is a melee dps.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 29 2011 03:54 GMT
#15836
flash is so good with his E
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
May 29 2011 03:56 GMT
#15837
I'm just not even hyped up about this tournament. Dreamhack should be such a beg deal.

All this mess and controversy has just totally turned me off it.

I hope I get back in the mood to watch LoL tournament.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
May 29 2011 04:03 GMT
#15838
riot wants to ban people for trolling when they are the biggest trolls l0l

No reason to take this game seriously and there never has been
Brees on in
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 29 2011 04:06 GMT
#15839
On May 29 2011 13:03 Brees wrote:
riot wants to ban people for trolling when they are the biggest trolls l0l

No reason to take this game seriously and there never has been

Meh. It had potential. Then they took the game, made terrible balance decisions that basically ruined 6+ months of play (IE+LW change) and refuse to actually support the competitive scene, and instead go ahead and make it a freakin joke. Like wtf? Riot doesnt deserve the spot at dreamhack for this game. Nor at WCG.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
May 29 2011 04:17 GMT
#15840
On May 29 2011 12:36 HazMat wrote:
Flash on xin real?


<--- been running flash on jungle xin.
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