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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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SpaceToaster
United States289 Posts
On January 20 2011 06:06 gtrsrs wrote: not to backtrack too far but i finally looked at the tribunal thing (looks cool tbh) read the whole FAQ, last question kinda made me say :wat: Q: How else can I be suspended or permanently banned? A: In extreme cases, if a member of the Riot Games staff witness’s poor player conduct, they may make a judgment call to issue an immediate suspension or ban. With over a hundred Riot Games employees who play thousands of games a day, you just never know when you could be playing with a Rioter! ... ... ... but if you bitch and QQ enough about a ban, you could get the riot employee fired instead! i don't want to say that psy didn't overreact, and he put riot in an impossible PR situation, but wow it kinda sucks to have it directly say that a riot member can ban you in the rules, and then not follow that at all I'm sure Riot would have backed the employee if it was just a ban, seems like what got him is the photo evidence of using a racial slur. I feel like it was probably too much to fire him, but man, wherever you are, if you're an intern you've gotta watch your ass about PR. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 20 2011 06:30 SpaceToaster wrote: I'm sure Riot would have backed the employee if it was just a ban, seems like what got him is the photo evidence of using a racial slur. I feel like it was probably too much to fire him, but man, wherever you are, if you're an intern you've gotta watch your ass about PR. I actually just think he got raped by how quickly the situation got blown up on the internet. The original thread was massive, IGN did an article on it with the screenshots and talked about how it was hypocritical of the company to be working hard on something like the Tribunal System and to have an employee who raged, made a racial slur and banned another player over a game and Psy's facebook got blown up by hate. I think if the reaction outside of Riot had been less severe, Riot's punishment would've been less severe. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
i mean again i don't want to justify psy raging but i also don't want to hop on the villify him bandwagon and i don't think psy would say that imo but spacetoaster is right, psy was kind of a "disposable" employee as just an intern/CS guy, and like i said he put them in an impossible situation that i would hate to deal with as a higher-up at riot too. either way, what a fucking dick, that guy who reported him. in other news i just lanewicked and kicked a vlad's ass. lanewick new op? | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On January 20 2011 06:46 gtrsrs wrote: and if i can be quite frank here, even if he did say and mean gook, wgaf? are people legit still offended by words any more? i have no shame in saying nigger gook chink spick bitch whore gyp CRACKER jew fag etc etc etc... i can't wait til people are grown up to let words just be words, not monuments to offensiveness i agree these are totally appropriate words to represent your company with | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
a fag is a bundle of sticks or cigarette and a cracker is a snacktime food. the rest hold zero meaning. bitch is also a female dog. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On January 20 2011 06:48 UniversalSnip wrote: i agree these are totally appropriate words to represent your company with people like you are holding back social progress a word only has power if you fear it like you clearly do | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
And I finished the game 6-8. But apparently, I was shit and fed too much. .... ... .. Oh yeah, in case you're wondering their Vlad was 20-2. CLARIFICATION:The game in question had no Caller in it. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Aurdon
United States2007 Posts
I hope people at least learn a lesson from this on how the culture of companies work and how there yes indeed is a double standard when you work for a company on how you should behave. Maybe some people can learn from this terrible mistake that was made and can avoid situations like it in the future. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On January 20 2011 07:01 Nikon wrote: Sometimes, when I play this game I feel like punching Caller in the face to be honest. Get ganked mid and die: "Stop feeding, you suck!" Meanwhile, our Irelia bought Wit's End as first damage item, even tho the other team had Vlad and Renekton... And I finished the game 6-8. But apparently, I was shit and fed too much. .... ... .. Oh yeah, in case you're wondering their Vlad was 20-2. i dont approve the use of violence | ||
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SpaceToaster
United States289 Posts
On January 20 2011 06:38 Mogwai wrote: I actually just think he got raped by how quickly the situation got blown up on the internet. The original thread was massive, IGN did an article on it with the screenshots and talked about how it was hypocritical of the company to be working hard on something like the Tribunal System and to have an employee who raged, made a racial slur and banned another player over a game and Psy's facebook got blown up by hate. I think if the reaction outside of Riot had been less severe, Riot's punishment would've been less severe. I agree completely, I remember it sitting at about 5 pages for a while, just barely growing. Once the guy with the "gook" screencap came in is when it really blew up (iirc he was at about page 15). After that it hit 150pages in a blink, with all the articles and stuff. If it was just an employee raging and banning a guy, he'd still be there, he was fired because it became a massive PR disaster that the entire gaming community knew about. I wonder if Riot made the other guy wait out his ban, probably should have, he was as bad or worse than Psy... | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
the ezreal actually flat out taunted psyonic into banning him this came after numerous warnings by psyonic i was in the game i would know evidence my ass what we had was a show trial | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On January 20 2011 07:00 gtrsrs wrote: people like you are holding back social progress a word only has power if you fear it like you clearly do I don't know what you're not getting here, these words piss people off. if you wanna be a hero go ahead, but don't expect your employer to put up with it if you make a shitload of customers angry in the name of your philosophy of social justice, and don't expect to get respect for your noble actions, LOL | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On January 20 2011 07:24 Caller wrote: there wasnt fair representation going on the ezreal actually flat out taunted psyonic into banning him this came after numerous warnings by psyonic i was in the game i would know evidence my ass what we had was a show trial But at the same time why did he delete recording from his stream if it prooved his innocence? BTW Riot is a bunch of hypocrites, i don't see how they didn't fire shurelia after her drama and yet they fired Psy... | ||
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EnrageD
Canada230 Posts
On January 20 2011 06:38 Mogwai wrote: IGN did an article on it with the screenshots and talked...... Link? Can't find anything. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On January 20 2011 07:29 Kaniol wrote: But at the same time why did he delete recording from his stream if it prooved his innocence? BTW Riot is a bunch of hypocrites, i don't see how they didn't fire shurelia after her drama and yet they fired Psy... she's a girl.... AN ASIAN GIRL... AT A VIDEO GAME COMPANY... THINK ABOUT IT. the recording wouldn't prove his innocence, it would merely prove that the other guy was in fact also being an asshole. my guess is that he just wants to put the entire thing behind him and is doing everything in his power to do so. leaving the recording up to prove that Ez goaded him would just sensationalize it and polarize the community further and due to the IGN article, would most likely have not done anything to make him not get fired. IMO it was pretty big of him to take it down since it prevents the community analyzing it and arguing over who's right and who's wrong. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/58671/Riot-Employee-Leads-By-Example-Following-LoL-Tribunal-Announcement I love how they conveniently left out the few screenshots where Ez was being confrontational (not many of them, but at least there were a few in the LoL thread). | ||
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