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hype train is leaving the station
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Wow tastosis on the cast too. Awesome.
Prefer the Korean Observers though. So much panning.
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Im really interested in knowing of all the deaths tempo storm has, how many of them are zuna's. I'm guessing it's a pretty high percentile.
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ah I forgot they are also giving out portrait, definitely did some work for the viewer base.
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I haven't watched a good live Esports tournament in a long time. Forgot how awesome they can be.
Still follow GSL, but Its hard not to spoil your self watching vods, ever since Gom Tv . net was shut down.
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First game was great, closer than I thought, Murlocs even had an advantage throughout early/mid game.
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I sincerely hope Cloud9 beats Tempo. They can do it, they just like to throw the games in the lategame. I hope there's an upset in that regard. Hopefully the rest of the teams surprise us too.
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Arthas Kerrigan <3 I missed them. The era where they are the strongest combo was the most fun to watch 
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oh shit, Arthelon died three times on Arthas and Zuna got caught out of position in the middle of the map. They are clearly not used to double warr comps still, and Zuna also still has the problem of only being really good on Zeratul.
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On September 20 2015 02:55 ACrow wrote:
oh shit, Arthelon died three times on Arthas and Zuna got caught out of position in the middle of the map. They are clearly not used to double warr comps still, and Zuna also still has the problem of only being really good on Zeratul.
I think they merely played the early game wrongly, not putting valla top against two ranged gave away some unnecessary advantage. Feel that there is more Arthas and Kerrigan can do in the early game. But exp is going to equalize the later it go and TS comp is going to come online.
And there you go, MG is literally playing hit the maw and ring of frost or lose.
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MG ...really messed that up.
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On September 20 2015 02:44 [Phantom] wrote:
I sincerely hope Cloud9 beats Tempo. They can do it, they just like to throw the games in the lategame. I hope there's an upset in that regard. Hopefully the rest of the teams surprise us too.
It's ok to admit TS is better than C9 and still like C9
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Weird that Tastosis get invited to this based entirely on their sc2 legacy. It seems they will never want for casting opportunities in any blizzard game no matter how many dedicated community members who focus on the game in question get passed over. Can't wait for it to happen with Overwatch too
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TS is better than Cloud9 but not that much. They have a TeamHouse that gives them a pretty big advantage over the rest of the teams, and still they lost to C9 on the Townhall heroes invitational and almost lost (but addmitedly didn't) to Cloud9 on MSi. Tempo Storm is overall better at not losing and in decision making, but I would argue that Cloud9 has more skilled players that can beat Tempo.
Weird that Tastosis get invited to this based entirely on their sc2 legacy. It seems they will never want for casting opportunities in any blizzard game no matter how many dedicated community members who focus on the game in question get passed over.
Tastossis are the casters of the OGN Super league, the Korean road to BlizzCon tournament. They aren't here just for their success in starcraft. They are good casters, specially at hyping live events which is why they get invited.
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On September 20 2015 03:23 [Phantom] wrote:TS is better than Cloud9 but not that much. They have a TeamHouse that gives them a pretty big advantage over the rest of the teams, and still they lost to C9 on the Townhall heroes invitational and almost lost (but addmitedly didn't) to Cloud9 on MSi. Tempo Storm is overall better at not losing and in decision making, but I would argue that Cloud9 has more skilled players that can beat Tempo. Show nested quote +Weird that Tastosis get invited to this based entirely on their sc2 legacy. It seems they will never want for casting opportunities in any blizzard game no matter how many dedicated community members who focus on the game in question get passed over. Tastossis are the casters of the OGN Super league, the Korean road to BlizzCon tournament. They aren't here just for their success in starcraft. They are good casters, specially at hyping live events which is why they get invited.
Wolf and Moonglade have casted much more ogn than Tastosis. Of course they are good casters, but nobody else even gets a chance
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Well, of course Tastosis are there for the hype factor, but Blizz is also giving deserved community casters a chance, namely Babael and Gillyweed (not counting Jake and Cooby, cause you could say they are already well established). I think they have hit a good mix tbh.
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6 min boss for C9, they are stomping this game.
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On September 20 2015 03:23 [Phantom] wrote:TS is better than Cloud9 but not that much. They have a TeamHouse that gives them a pretty big advantage over the rest of the teams, and still they lost to C9 on the Townhall heroes invitational and almost lost (but addmitedly didn't) to Cloud9 on MSi. Tempo Storm is overall better at not losing and in decision making, but I would argue that Cloud9 has more skilled players that can beat Tempo. Show nested quote +Weird that Tastosis get invited to this based entirely on their sc2 legacy. It seems they will never want for casting opportunities in any blizzard game no matter how many dedicated community members who focus on the game in question get passed over. Tastossis are the casters of the OGN Super league, the Korean road to BlizzCon tournament. They aren't here just for their success in starcraft. They are good casters, specially at hyping live events which is why they get invited.
That's fair. I just have a huge boner for Dread.
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But the other casters are also casting this weekend, it's not as if they aren't getting a chance. Like, listen to this game casting, and then to the first game casted by Tastossis on this same map an hour ago, the difference in hype and emotion is notorious. They bring them and put them in the first series for a reason. A good reason, in my opinion.
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On September 20 2015 03:31 Valiver wrote:
6 min boss for C9, they are stomping this game.
Well, that escalated quickly ^.^
I guess we will move onto the next game quickly, ey
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These casters mics seem a bit more muffled than than when Tasteosis was on.
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13 minute game woot. Hoping c9 takes this whole thing
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On September 20 2015 03:23 [Phantom] wrote:TS is better than Cloud9 but not that much. They have a TeamHouse that gives them a pretty big advantage over the rest of the teams, and still they lost to C9 on the Townhall heroes invitational and almost lost (but addmitedly didn't) to Cloud9 on MSi. Tempo Storm is overall better at not losing and in decision making, but I would argue that Cloud9 has more skilled players that can beat Tempo. Show nested quote +Weird that Tastosis get invited to this based entirely on their sc2 legacy. It seems they will never want for casting opportunities in any blizzard game no matter how many dedicated community members who focus on the game in question get passed over. Tastossis are the casters of the OGN Super league, the Korean road to BlizzCon tournament. They aren't here just for their success in starcraft. They are good casters, specially at hyping live events which is why they get invited.
I did notice that their game/meta knowledge seemed higher than earlier Blizzard tourneys where they were brought in solely for hype. Haven't been following OGN (keep meaning too, but oh wells) so it makes sense that they've been working that tourney too.
Oh good, Sonya as Leoric soft-counter will be fun to watch. I've been hearing about this happening on OGN (ya, I should watch it huh?) but haven't had a chance to see it play out in practice. Hopefully Team Immunity doesn't just die horribly and make it look bad =p.
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Hopefully Team Immunity doesn't just die horribly and make it look bad =p.
Doh
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Wow that wasn't very competitive.
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Triple warrior on Infernal seems a bit strange
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On September 20 2015 04:25 ThomasjServo wrote:
Triple warrior on Infernal seems a bit strange
MVP Black does weird shit like that often. Last night they went double warrior/melee assassin/Kharazim/Tychus on Infernal Shrines and crushed it. Anyway, after seeing that game Kael/Johanna most OP combo on that map.
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On September 20 2015 04:48 SC2John wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 04:25 ThomasjServo wrote:
Triple warrior on Infernal seems a bit strange
MVP Black does weird shit like that often. Last night they went double warrior/melee assassin/Kharazim/Tychus on Infernal Shrines and crushed it. Anyway, after seeing that game Kael/Johanna most OP combo on that map.
Black seemed like they could basically draft what they wanted last night. The way immunity played made it look like a quick match team you roll your eyes at when you see the other heroes spawn.
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Wow that was a crazy fight.
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MG just stomping Immunity in game three, so sick!
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Omg, Cognitive still drafting for Glau's pleasure. That warrior less comp will backfire so hard versus a good team (or any team that can stun illidan reliably).
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Wow, this comp from cognitive. Jania, Abathur, Illidan, Tassadar, Brightwing
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Yeah draft around Glaurang... the guy who like do suicidal and crazy moves. This is way too all in xd
Illidonk!
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Glau's a fucking beast, holy shit that chase.
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Well that was fun
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So as I usually or mostly never follow the NA teams....TS vs C9 is supposed to be THE match between the 2 top teams in NA right?
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Yes, it is. And TS has been on a losing streak vs C9 recently. They tilted hard in the last series.
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On September 20 2015 06:33 ACrow wrote:
Yes, it is. And TS has been on a losing streak vs C9 recently. They tilted hard in the last series.
Ok, thanks looking forward to it!
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I can't believe no Illidan ban LOL
Illi and Aba again... GG.
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The Lost Vikings is a bold pick.
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Hum they are going fo'show? Or is this actually viable?
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They get an even better Illidan comp with Uther now. And Relic has even less ways to deal with Illidan, just the stun by Anub, no blinds, no poly... oh my...
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Great series, a real nail-biter and awesome casting by Jake and Babael <3
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Jaina pulled some Johanna there....how the hell did he escaped that (at first only I know o.O)
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On September 20 2015 06:33 ACrow wrote:
Yes, it is. And TS has been on a losing streak vs C9 recently. They tilted hard in the last series.
Streak?
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Yeahhh letting Cog pick Aba+Illi again, and then going Vikings on such a small map were pretty bad strategies.
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On September 20 2015 07:01 checkupriv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 06:33 ACrow wrote:
Yes, it is. And TS has been on a losing streak vs C9 recently. They tilted hard in the last series. Streak?
Two matches out of three since MSI isn't it? I chalk that up to post-MVP Black beatdown fatigue.
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time for some latin flavor... hoping for a miracle
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On September 20 2015 07:16 Topin wrote:
time for some latin flavor... hoping for a miracle
Well, it is centainly an interesting draft, let's see how they do.
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On September 20 2015 07:26 [Phantom] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 07:16 Topin wrote:
time for some latin flavor... hoping for a miracle Well, it is centainly an interesting draft, let's see how they do.
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I don't have much faith on them either It's a shame Brave Ozone couldn't go.
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Complexity already up 10-8 lol just wrecking face atm
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On September 20 2015 07:32 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Complexity already up 10-8 lol just wrecking face atm
They got 16-11 for a second there lol.
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14 kills to 0 kills... where is Furious from? Clearly they're outmatched.
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On September 20 2015 07:16 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 07:01 checkupriv wrote:On September 20 2015 06:33 ACrow wrote:
Yes, it is. And TS has been on a losing streak vs C9 recently. They tilted hard in the last series. Streak? Two matches out of three since MSI isn't it? I chalk that up to post-MVP Black beatdown fatigue.
The map score in the last tournament was 5-5. C9 was impressive; I just think this is way overstated.
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On September 20 2015 07:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
14 kills to 0 kills... where is Furious from? Clearly they're outmatched.
Latin America second place
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These Sonya talents totally different from KR Sonyas.
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On September 20 2015 07:38 Topin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 07:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
14 kills to 0 kills... where is Furious from? Clearly they're outmatched. Latin America second place
Thanks Maybe they'll do better with a different hero comp in game two.
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Actually, they were Latin Americas third place.
Brave Ozone, the team that qualified for this is the Tempo Storm of the region, dominating it very convincingly every season. (96% winrate in all the seasons). But they couldn't go to the championship for visa reasons. The second place couldn't go either, so Furious Gaming which was the third place got to go, but they are way behind the skill level of Brave Ozone and the other NA teams.
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On September 20 2015 07:45 [Phantom] wrote:
Actually, they were Latin Americas third place.
Brave Ozone, the team that qualified for this is the Tempo Storm of the region, dominating it very convincingly every season. (96% winrate in all the seasons). But they couldn't go to the championship for visa reasons. The second place couldn't go either, so Furious Gaming which was the third place got to go, but they are way behind the skill level of Brave Ozone and the other NA teams.
oh i forgot about cnb
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I like Furious's team comp this game more than last game, but it looks like they're still being outplayed.
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Tempo Storm vs Cloud9 THE NEVER-SEEN BEFORE MATCH
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First time watching HotS, but Im liking these picks already. SONYAAAAA
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Tempo looks great this game, they are finally leaving their comfort zone with this draft - this is the next step they need to take if they want to have a chance of beating MVP at Blizzcon
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Absolutely amazing rotations
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Lich King and the Skeleton King, cool cool. I dig the melee bruiser comps.
EDIT: RAYNOR! Love it vs. Leoric and Arthas.
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Love Tyrande ..but she doesn't have much to help buff dmg wise here.
Would be crazy.. but wonder if Rehgar doesn't pick up ancestral, for the offensive one.
If Abathur picks healing sheids...they might have enough healing.
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Thrall's corpse gets thrown clear off the edge of the map, lol
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Perfect Illidan killing comp
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LMFAO, in that Leoric commercial "I will only choose companions I know will never betray me!" and then Illidan turns his head.
Great stuff. This is a good match too, I always love seeing Illidan and Tassadar.
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Come on COGnitive, don't let me down.
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Does this start at the same time tomorrow?
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this game is going much better for COG
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On September 20 2015 12:20 checkupriv wrote:
Does this start at the same time tomorrow?
Yes.
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On September 20 2015 12:23 Valiver wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2015 12:20 checkupriv wrote:
Does this start at the same time tomorrow? Yes.
Thanks!
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Half an hour until stream time!
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Fell asleep last night just before C9 vs TS T_T....were the matches good? Need to catch the vod's one I have time
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On September 21 2015 01:38 KobraKay wrote:Fell asleep last night just before C9 vs TS T_T....were the matches good? Need to catch the vod's one I have time
COG vs col was a good series, but I don't recommend TS vs C9
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Hahahaha awesome picture ^^
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Hopefully his head isn't destructible lol
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Relics is getting stomped yet again, this time by Complexity.
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I don't think thsi will work for Murloc Geniuses. Triple warrior will shut down Illidan pretty hard.
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Want to see MG go bloodlust on Rehgar.
And Healing from Tass, Abathur, and Regars basic ability.
Not saying it works, just would be fun to see.
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man the crowd is hype and the UI is sick, so glad to see this kinda production
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On September 21 2015 03:37 Larkin wrote:
man the crowd is hype and the UI is sick, so glad to see this kinda production
Yep, the production is great overall, also very little downtime between games which is awesome.
Also that Illidan escape man
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Did anyone catch MG's hero bans? I'm surprised that C9 got both Muradin and Leoric, since MG should have banned tanks. I assume they banned Jo and someone else?
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On September 21 2015 03:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Did anyone catch MG's hero bans? I'm surprised that C9 got both Muradin and Leoric, since MG should have banned tanks. I assume they banned Jo and someone else?
I think C9 actually banned Johanna, iirc MG banned zeratul, can't remember the other
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Zagara. But I agree they should have banned more warriors.
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On September 21 2015 03:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Did anyone catch MG's hero bans? I'm surprised that C9 got both Muradin and Leoric, since MG should have banned tanks. I assume they banned Jo and someone else?
Johanna/Tyrande by C9, Zeratul/Zagara by MG.
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On September 21 2015 03:47 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 03:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Did anyone catch MG's hero bans? I'm surprised that C9 got both Muradin and Leoric, since MG should have banned tanks. I assume they banned Jo and someone else? Johanna/Tyrande by C9, Zeratul/Zagara by MG.
yeah I think those were poor bans by MG, I wouldn't think Zera or Zagara would be as good against that comp? A leo or Mura ban would have been better imo
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I don't understand why MG just banned Arthas and let C9 get Leoric instead...
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Thanks guys Game two's hero comps look much more standard.
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Tasteless to the right of artosis. Doesn't look right.
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On September 21 2015 04:01 Valiver wrote:
I don't understand why MG just banned Arthas and let C9 get Leoric instead...
me either... Leoric is just too good to let the other team have. Arthas works well with gank squads which it seems both teams are going for though
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Leoric ultimate is sick hahaha xD
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So good haha. Well done, C9!
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On September 21 2015 04:04 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 04:01 Valiver wrote:
I don't understand why MG just banned Arthas and let C9 get Leoric instead... me either... Leoric is just too good to let the other team have. Arthas works well with gank squads which it seems both teams are going for though
They've banned Arthas because he is really good in those diving compositions, he deals quite a bit of damage and has great sustain. They were probably afraid of the combo with Tyrande, they have denied Kerrigan from them, banned Arthas, and Butcher wasn't good pick without Uther, while Muradin doesn't deal that much damage. In the end they probably were arguing about banning Arthas or Muradin, and decided to go with Arthas as he is a lot scarier in those diving compositions.
Didn't matter in the end, they were outplayed.
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Semifinals time
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compLexity just let Tempo Storm get their preferred comp.
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Azmodan, nice. Didn't see that one coming.
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the team fights man, good shit
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A really solid first game there... level 23-21 and TS didn't lose a single fort/ keep lol
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Wow balls going in on the core like that. ..Wasted a lot of curse time too.
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They had to destroy a keep before being able to damage the core.
But that really was a big throw by Complexity. Tempo Storm is really good at abusing the mistakes of others.
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Man that's brutal for Complexity, they were doing so well in that game and came so close to winning that fight
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Col was playing so well T_T
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On September 21 2015 05:53 Larkin wrote:
tyrande gets banned so much :o
Yeah, in NA they love her setup for burst potential. I think that she is a bit overrated.
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Would have liked to see Glau take Illi again.
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On September 21 2015 05:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:Yeah, in NA they love her setup for burst potential. I think that she is a bit overrated.
I really wanna see the Tyrande/Butcher combo :x
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That trap worked really well by Cog.
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Seriously? Caster purposely said "Masturbate". -.-'
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On September 21 2015 05:56 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 05:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:On September 21 2015 05:53 Larkin wrote:
tyrande gets banned so much :o Yeah, in NA they love her setup for burst potential. I think that she is a bit overrated. I really wanna see the Tyrande/Butcher combo :x
That's my favorite combo as well, play it a lot in the HL/TL.
But overall they prefer Kerrigan/Tyrande for burst.
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On September 21 2015 06:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Seriously? Caster purposely said "Masturbate". -.-'
yeah he likes doing that, like when he talks about being fisted by the garden terror
no different from the dong puns when talking about jaedong in sc2
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On September 21 2015 06:14 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 06:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Seriously? Caster purposely said "Masturbate". -.-' yeah he likes doing that, like when he talks about being fisted by the garden terror no different from the dong puns when talking about jaedong in sc2
Fair enough haha. First time I heard it ^^
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Cog was soooo close to getting that warp back home, but great snipe by C9!
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Another phenomenal comeback by C9! gg!
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I wonder... do you think first ban/pick is an advantage or a disadvantage?
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Johanna + Tyrande + One more for epic wombo for C9?
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The semi-finals being Bo3 and the final Bo5 is just silly. The games are way to short for that.
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On September 21 2015 06:43 Pr0wler wrote:
The semi-finals being Bo3 and the final Bo5 is just silly. The games are way to short for that.
Plus the single elim semis is kinda stupid
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Well this was one-sided lol. C9 way too good
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On September 21 2015 06:45 checkupriv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 06:43 Pr0wler wrote:
The semi-finals being Bo3 and the final Bo5 is just silly. The games are way to short for that. Plus the single elim semis is kinda stupid
Thankfully, the two best team qualified but yeah bo3 single elimination to qualify for Blizzcon kind of suck.
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LOL, thay actually made giant plastic "tickets" :D
Now the fastest 40k for Tempo Storm - 50 mins tops.
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On September 21 2015 06:43 Pr0wler wrote:
The semi-finals being Bo3 and the final Bo5 is just silly. The games are way to short for that.
agreed. Hopefully we'll get at least a Bo5 in every game at Blizzcon.
But the skill gap in this tournament was quite big anyway, so the Bo3 formt at least didn't fuck over one of the favorites, tbh.
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I don't think Bo3 and Bo5 is bad, most series except one (or two?) have been 2-0 stomps, making them Bo5 and Bo7 would just make them 3-0 stomps. There is no need until the level of the rest of the teams goes up.
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On September 21 2015 06:07 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 05:56 Larkin wrote:On September 21 2015 05:55 Ramiz1989 wrote:On September 21 2015 05:53 Larkin wrote:
tyrande gets banned so much :o Yeah, in NA they love her setup for burst potential. I think that she is a bit overrated. I really wanna see the Tyrande/Butcher combo :x That's my favorite combo as well, play it a lot in the HL/TL. But overall they prefer Kerrigan/Tyrande for burst.
You guys are happy
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Tie-Ron-Day
God, that is going to bother the hell out of me.
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Don't worry guys, I'm sure Cloud9 will find a way to throw this game.
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wow the entomb to block Butcher's charge/furnace blast, so sick
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On September 21 2015 07:34 [Phantom] wrote:
Don't worry guys, I'm sure Cloud9 will find a way to throw this game.
Doesn't look like it
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damn so unlucky.. he didn't has 35 charge though
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On September 21 2015 07:34 [Phantom] wrote:
Don't worry guys, I'm sure Cloud9 will find a way to throw this game.
i would eat my hat
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It's fair to say that the Butcher pick didn't pay off.
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full aggro
Zuna was a beast on Leoric and Zeratul this weekend so good choice.
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Zuna is tempo's strongest and weakest link.
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Well as good as seven strike is, C9 got way too much sustain for it to do work.
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TS lost both of these at the draft
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On September 21 2015 08:16 checkupriv wrote:
TS lost both of these at the draft
I think that's generally an issue in Heroes right now. I kinda feel like lots of games are decided in the draft.
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On September 21 2015 08:16 checkupriv wrote:
TS lost both of these at the draft
First game sure, even though I haven't watched it Muradin and Tassadar as second support is too much for Butcher to handle, and Anub isn't really a great tank, but in this game draft isn't really an issue.
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On September 21 2015 08:16 checkupriv wrote:
TS lost both of these at the draft
I don't think heroes is ever that simple. unless your draft is like, diablo, chen, brightwing, murky, lili. a good team can win with any composition - and tempo storm wouldn't pick a composition if they weren't capable of winning with it.
that said, forcing tempo into monk as healer there (especially since he didn't go divine palm) was a good move by c9.
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On September 21 2015 08:18 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 08:16 checkupriv wrote:
TS lost both of these at the draft First game sure, even though I haven't watched it Muradin and Tassadar as second support is too much for Butcher to handle, and Anub isn't really a great tank, but in this game draft isn't really an issue.
I dunno. C9 picking Uther/banning Rehgar kind of fucked TS imo
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On September 21 2015 08:21 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 08:16 checkupriv wrote:
TS lost both of these at the draft I don't think heroes is ever that simple. unless your draft is like, diablo, chen, brightwing, murky, lili. a good team can win with any composition - and tempo storm wouldn't pick a composition if they weren't capable of winning with it. that said, forcing tempo into monk as healer there (especially since he didn't go divine palm) was a good move by c9.
That's probably true. Zuna isn't playing well.
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On September 21 2015 08:18 Ramiz1989 wrote:
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First game sure, even though I haven't watched it Muradin and Tassadar as second support is too much for Butcher to handle, and Anub isn't really a great tank, but in this game draft isn't really an issue.
I dunno. C9 picking Uther/banning Rehgar kind of fucked TS imo
=they fucked themselves by not picking Rehgar earlier. I actually enjoy that the drafts are an important part of the game, and I think the system is fair enough so that a team being outdrafted can only blame themselves.
This game is turning out to be a pretty engaging e-sport! Is a breakthrough coming?
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On September 21 2015 08:28 Slydie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 08:18 Ramiz1989 wrote:
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First game sure, even though I haven't watched it Muradin and Tassadar as second support is too much for Butcher to handle, and Anub isn't really a great tank, but in this game draft isn't really an issue.
I dunno. C9 picking Uther/banning Rehgar kind of fucked TS imo =they fucked themselves by not picking Rehgar earlier. I actually enjoy that the drafts are an important part of the game, and I think the system is fair enough so that a team being outdrafted can only blame themselves. This game is turning out to be a pretty engaging e-sport! Is a breakthrough coming?
Need a lot more heroes in the game and rework on some so they become viable, but I'm definitely looking forward to that moment. The game has a lot of potential.
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2/3 of Tempo losses on all official tournaments have been today this match (They only have lost 3 games all these months at the Road to BlizzCon tournament). Furthermore, they beat c9 quite convincingly yesterday 2-0, so it's definitely posible for them to win the new few games.
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On September 21 2015 08:36 [Phantom] wrote:
2/3 of Tempo losses on all oficial tournaments have been today this match (They only have lost 3 games all these months at the Road to BlizzCon tournament). Furthermore, they beat c9 quite convincingly yesterday 2-0, so it's definitely posible for them to win the new few games.
Would love a 3-2 feel that so many offline tournament final had been one-sided whereas we get amazing final online.
Also, Arth getting phoenix if they were up 2-0. He will defnitely go for pyro.
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I hate uther. His impact on a game is just insane, imo. And I don't understand, how he's not banned basically every game :o
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Let's see if C9 tilts after that loss.
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Also, Jaina is 0-6 in the playoff so far.
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On September 21 2015 08:55 RiZu wrote:
Also, Jaina is 0-6 in the playoff so far.
yeah, I'm thinking people are starting to see that she's a bit overrated now, though I'm liking the greater range of build diversity people are showing with her.
it is mostly just me being bad, no doubt, but I often find myself doing 20-40k more damage with valla, even with nazeebo than with jaina.
incidentally, where the hell has nazeebo been this tournament?!
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On September 21 2015 08:28 Slydie wrote:
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=they fucked themselves by not picking Rehgar earlier. I actually enjoy that the drafts are an important part of the game, and I think the system is fair enough so that a team being outdrafted can only blame themselves.
This game is turning out to be a pretty engaging e-sport! Is a breakthrough coming?
Need a lot more heroes in the game and rework on some so they become viable, but I'm definitely looking forward to that moment. The game has a lot of potential.
Throughout the regions, there are very few heroes which are never picked at the highest level. On top of my head, only like diablo, murky, lili and chen. Even Sgt. Hammer was used with lots of success in Korea, with heroes like Vikings and Tychus used as occational curveballs.
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On September 21 2015 08:59 Slydie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 08:28 Slydie wrote:
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=they fucked themselves by not picking Rehgar earlier. I actually enjoy that the drafts are an important part of the game, and I think the system is fair enough so that a team being outdrafted can only blame themselves.
This game is turning out to be a pretty engaging e-sport! Is a breakthrough coming?
Need a lot more heroes in the game and rework on some so they become viable, but I'm definitely looking forward to that moment. The game has a lot of potential. Throughout the regions, there are very few heroes which are never picked at the highest level. On top of my head, only like diablo, murky, lili and chen. Even Sgt. Hammer was used with lots of success in Korea, with heroes like Vikings and Tychus used as occational curveballs.
Funny enough I've seen all of those in EU region, and C9 picked/banned Murky few times on BoE. Nova is a hero that I haven't seen at all to be honest.
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Abathur incoming for TS
Oh boy... Jaina let see whether TS can break the curse.
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On September 21 2015 09:06 RiZu wrote:
Abathur incoming for TS
Oh boy... Jaina let see whether TS can break the curse.
They let C9 get Zeratul so I seriously doubt it... such a stupid hero. :S
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On September 21 2015 09:04 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 08:59 Slydie wrote:On September 21 2015 08:28 Slydie wrote:
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=they fucked themselves by not picking Rehgar earlier. I actually enjoy that the drafts are an important part of the game, and I think the system is fair enough so that a team being outdrafted can only blame themselves.
This game is turning out to be a pretty engaging e-sport! Is a breakthrough coming?
Need a lot more heroes in the game and rework on some so they become viable, but I'm definitely looking forward to that moment. The game has a lot of potential. Throughout the regions, there are very few heroes which are never picked at the highest level. On top of my head, only like diablo, murky, lili and chen. Even Sgt. Hammer was used with lots of success in Korea, with heroes like Vikings and Tychus used as occational curveballs. Funny enough I've seen all of those in EU region, and C9 picked/banned Murky few times on BoE. Nova is a hero that I haven't seen at all to be honest.
I feel like Nova doesn't have much of a place. most teams are good at spotting her and protecting those she will try to pick off - and she can't lane. that's the key, imo - the other ranged assassins are great laners, with nova, you lose out on a lot of lane pushing.
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On September 21 2015 09:09 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 09:04 Ramiz1989 wrote:On September 21 2015 08:59 Slydie wrote:On September 21 2015 08:28 Slydie wrote:
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=they fucked themselves by not picking Rehgar earlier. I actually enjoy that the drafts are an important part of the game, and I think the system is fair enough so that a team being outdrafted can only blame themselves.
This game is turning out to be a pretty engaging e-sport! Is a breakthrough coming?
Need a lot more heroes in the game and rework on some so they become viable, but I'm definitely looking forward to that moment. The game has a lot of potential. Throughout the regions, there are very few heroes which are never picked at the highest level. On top of my head, only like diablo, murky, lili and chen. Even Sgt. Hammer was used with lots of success in Korea, with heroes like Vikings and Tychus used as occational curveballs. Funny enough I've seen all of those in EU region, and C9 picked/banned Murky few times on BoE. Nova is a hero that I haven't seen at all to be honest. I feel like Nova doesn't have much of a place. most teams are good at spotting her and protecting those she will try to pick off - and she can't lane. that's the key, imo - the other ranged assassins are great laners, with nova, you lose out on a lot of lane pushing.
I know, just saying that I haven't seen her since the days when VP(IIRC) picked her. She is just too limited with her kit, she can't do mercs, doesn't have wave clear/pushing ability, isn't tanky, doesn't have a reliable escape mechanic, she is only good at one thing and that is killing enemy heroes, and even for that she needs a good setup.
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I'm really loving the Zer + Illi aggro
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still no nazeebo
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On September 21 2015 09:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:I'm really loving the Zer + Illi aggro
I actually don't. They are great against back line of TS, Jaina and Valla, but Sonya and Arthas are eating those heroes alive and after they are dead there is no damage to deal with the rest of TS lineup. Good Void Prison can change the fight completely but it is easier said than done.
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On September 21 2015 09:21 Topin wrote:
is C9 tilting?
don't think so, TS is drafting a lot better and playing extremely well.
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On September 21 2015 09:24 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 09:15 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:I'm really loving the Zer + Illi aggro I actually don't. They are great against back line of TS, Jaina and Valla, but Sonya and Arthas are eating those heroes alive and after they are dead there is no damage to deal with the rest of TS lineup. Good Void Prison can change the fight completely but it is easier said than done.
Yeah there's been a lot of miscommunication this game for C9... should be 2-2 soon.
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fuck whats happening C9 T_T
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Let's go Dread and the boys
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Nice, Game 5 finals. Lets hope its a good one.
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reverse sweep the dream Sonya is a beast so is Arthas whatacha day
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On September 21 2015 09:29 Topin wrote:
fuck whats happening C9 T_T
Well this last game was outpick in my opinion. There wasn't a single hero that has great synergy with Tyrande, they didn't have enough damage to fight Sonya and Arthas nor enough sustain to outlast them while at the same time they were up against Uther that completely counters any kind of focus/burst that Tyrande/Zeratul are capable of.
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Final game on BB mwahahaha
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On September 21 2015 09:36 Larkin wrote:
blackheart's bay, really
TS used to be the strongest on that map going back to their roots.
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On September 21 2015 09:37 RiZu wrote:TS used to be the strongest on that map going back to their roots.
Malf pick inc? 
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lol that little girl...kind of awesome going to a live esports event so young.
I have yet to go to one...
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On September 21 2015 09:38 Cyanocyst wrote:
lol that little girl...kind of awesome going to a live esports event so young.
I have yet to go to one...
It's well worth it, regardless of what the event is
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On September 21 2015 09:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 09:38 Cyanocyst wrote:
lol that little girl...kind of awesome going to a live esports event so young.
I have yet to go to one... It's well worth it, regardless of what the event is
which is why I'll be in Austin this spring.
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Take a lili? who heals? EDIT, forgot malf.
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On September 21 2015 09:38 Cyanocyst wrote:
lol that little girl...kind of awesome going to a live esports event so young.
I have yet to go to one...
I know that feel bro They seem pretty cool but I've never been able to go.
I actually don't think BHB is a good map for a final game, it's pretty snowbally, but let's see how it plays out. Personally I'm cheering for C9, and you?
Poll: Who will win the Americas Championship?(Vote): Cloud9
(Vote): Tempo Storm
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On September 21 2015 09:42 [Phantom] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 09:38 Cyanocyst wrote:
lol that little girl...kind of awesome going to a live esports event so young.
I have yet to go to one... I know that feel bro They seem pretty cool but I've never been able to go. I actually don't think BHB is a good map for a final game, it's pretty snowbally, but let's see how it plays out. Personally I'm cheering for C9, and you? Poll: Who will win the Americas Championship?(Vote): Cloud9
(Vote): Tempo Storm
I am pulling for C9 if only because I feel Zuna has an IdrA like attitude from what I've heard.
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On September 21 2015 09:43 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 09:42 [Phantom] wrote:On September 21 2015 09:38 Cyanocyst wrote:
lol that little girl...kind of awesome going to a live esports event so young.
I have yet to go to one... I know that feel bro They seem pretty cool but I've never been able to go. I actually don't think BHB is a good map for a final game, it's pretty snowbally, but let's see how it plays out. Personally I'm cheering for C9, and you? Poll: Who will win the Americas Championship?(Vote): Cloud9
(Vote): Tempo Storm
I am pulling for C9 if only because I feel Zuna has an IdrA like attitude from what I've heard.
hahahaha
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Kayeoh practiced pretty much Aba in SEL so let see.
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Zuna's leoric also seems underwhelming, though I missed if he played him on game 3 or 4.
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On September 21 2015 09:47 ThomasjServo wrote:
Zuna's leoric also seems underwhelming, though I missed if he played him on game 3 or 4.
He did and it was ok, nothing special but not bad.
I am favoring TS here.
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Dread with 15 coins atm, wow.
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On September 21 2015 09:49 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 09:47 ThomasjServo wrote:
Zuna's leoric also seems underwhelming, though I missed if he played him on game 3 or 4. He did and it was ok, nothing special but not bad. I am favoring TS here.
It is a total heart vs. head thing. Everything I've seen, and the fact that it went to g5 says TS should win, but moderate heart preference for C9. My allegiance is still up in the air until CJ has a HOTS team.
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Zuna is 4 of the 6 deaths now right?
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Zuna really looking mediocre this series, compared to his usual play.
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On September 21 2015 09:53 ThomasjServo wrote:
Zuna is 4 of the 6 deaths now right?
At least 4 deaths lol
EDIT: 5.
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Ahahah Zuna come on... :D
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Soldier explodes with gold!
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On September 21 2015 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 09:53 ThomasjServo wrote:
Zuna is 4 of the 6 deaths now right? At least 4 deaths lol
5 now, or 6, now they have to face another cannon round. They can't turn in with that Zag
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And those owls have been sick.
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yeah I have no team I "support" in heroes but I'm cheering for C9 since tempo is the favourite and everyone was like "tempo storm will win"
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I really hope that Zuna is like IdrA, because he's 100% the reason why they're losing this game.
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On September 21 2015 09:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I really hope that Zuna is like IdrA, because he's 100% the reason why they're losing this game.
This is the first time I've watched a big tournament, but everything I've heard about Zuna has indicated he has a bit of a chip on his shoulder.
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Ahahah Zuna is on full tilt, this is just embarrassing...
This is worse than some free week "murky" Leorics I have been playing recently.
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On September 21 2015 10:00 ThomasjServo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 09:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I really hope that Zuna is like IdrA, because he's 100% the reason why they're losing this game. This is the first time I've watched a big tournament, but everything I've heard about Zuna has indicated he has a bit of a chip on his shoulder.
Any idea why? I know nothing about him besides the fact that his Zeratul is sick.
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On September 21 2015 10:01 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 10:00 ThomasjServo wrote:On September 21 2015 09:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I really hope that Zuna is like IdrA, because he's 100% the reason why they're losing this game. This is the first time I've watched a big tournament, but everything I've heard about Zuna has indicated he has a bit of a chip on his shoulder. Any idea why? I know nothing about him besides the fact that his Zeratul is sick.
I think it is akin to how Idra was super dominant early on in SC2, and carried that through his slumping into retirement though obviously not at that point in his career for Zuna. Just a, "come at me bro," kind of swagger.
Zuna 10/17 deaths is my bet.
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That owl was so fucking obvious. :/
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Turn in and win, after zuna's nth death
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What a series. What a tournament.
gg
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Woop woop, that was cool.
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I'm glad that C9 have won this, really well played by them.
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Seriously want to know how many times did Zuna die.
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Pretty salty about Zuna's play this series
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On September 21 2015 10:06 ThomasjServo wrote:
Seriously want to know how many times did Zuna die.
I think Vegeta knows.
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Domination. ..TS really didn't play that very well. Also letting them get so much control of the turn in with Zagara and Tyrande now seems kind of silly.
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That moment you realize
The Artosis Curse exists
In Heroes now, too.
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On September 21 2015 10:07 Cyanocyst wrote:
Domination. ..TS really didn't play that very well. Also letting them get so much control of the turn in with Zagara and Tyrande now seems kind of silly.
Each game this series was one-sided. I still maintain they were all draft wins on both sides. There are some obvious issues with the hero roster ATM.
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Dustin Browder without his beard is just..wrong.
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Now C9 goes and gets hammered in a town with no last call, that would be fun as fuck.
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2 words from the champs... And then time for PR from the old farts. OK Blizzard.
Nice finals though.
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underwhelming trophies ._.
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I really like the giving them each a trophy rather than a single collective one - if a player leaves the team later, it's like they lose out in it
grats C9!
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Really great event. Well run, down time between games was minimal. ..almost too minimal.
Good collection of casters. Pretty sick.
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Cloud 9 seemed better prepared for Blackheart's bay, and TS really screwed up that last draft. Fun series!
Most exciting was Cloud 9's insane quick turnaround against Cognitive in game 1 in the semifinal though. Most other games were normal looking snowball games, where the team reaching level 10 first was winning.
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Can't wait for Blizzcon to be honest. This coupled with Starcraft 2 will be amazing!
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On September 21 2015 10:14 Slydie wrote:
Cloud 9 seemed better prepared for Blackheart's bay, and TS really screwed up that last draft. Fun series!
Most exciting was Cloud 9's insane quick turnaround against Cognitive in game 1 in the semifinal though. Most other games were normal looking snowball games, where the team reaching level 10 first was winning.
Most but not all, there were a couple of turnaround games or games where it wasn't co clear who is winning until one big fight.
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Pretty exciting tournament overall. Let's hope the European Championship is just as exciting.
Remember to change your sidebar preferences to see the upcoming events on your calendar!
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On September 21 2015 10:12 Larkin wrote:I really like the giving them each a trophy rather than a single collective one - if a player leaves the team later, it's like they lose out in it grats C9!
Yeah I agree with that
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Really nice tournament, nice production. GG Blizzard
Grats @ C9.
<3 Dunktrain!
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On September 21 2015 15:37 Perseverance wrote:
Glad TS lost.
I don't understand this garbage
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