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On June 13 2015 07:44 [Phantom] wrote:
Illidan is team dependant, heroes like abathur-tassadar-uther are very good with him.
Watch out for those stuns, and don't jump first, wait for your tank to engage or jump but do it if youknow you can escape.
Stone skin and first aid are also must picks.
This seems to be so true. I recently played against a combo of Illidan, Abathur and Tassadar and man did he rage through our team :D
I usually pick first aid but take blood for blood over stoneskin. Maybe I should try the combination of First aid + Evasion + Stoneskin. And I should not pick Illidan if I don't know and can't communicate with or healer.
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Thanks to everyone who helped me with my Nova questions a week or so ago. I got her up to level 10 with about a 60% overall win rate and I had an absolute blast.
My next project is Azmodan.
Is Taste for Blood viable in pubs where nobody is helping you farm? I never get anywhere near the 500 bonus damage limit. Good games, I'm up to around 170 by the end of the game. Bad games, maybe 120. I have to devote a lot of time post-level 10 to team fights, mercs and objectives, which stops me from farming to my demonic heart's content.
Does anyone play Azmodan successfully with non-Taste for Blood builds?
Thanks in advance.
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On June 17 2015 14:01 Tritone wrote:
Thanks to everyone who helped me with my Nova questions a week or so ago. I got her up to level 10 with about a 60% overall win rate and I had an absolute blast.
My next project is Azmodan.
Is Taste for Blood viable in pubs where nobody is helping you farm? I never get anywhere near the 500 bonus damage limit. Good games, I'm up to around 170 by the end of the game. Bad games, maybe 120. I have to devote a lot of time post-level 10 to team fights, mercs and objectives, which stops me from farming to my demonic heart's content.
Does anyone play Azmodan successfully with non-Taste for Blood builds?
Thanks in advance.
Taste for blood is viable for sure, assuming you're doing the correct dunk build It's the go to talent when you're going for level 7 Infernal globe and level 10 black hole, at the level 10 point blackhole dunk can clear all the non sword minions and after clearing a couple of lanes like that you should be able to clear any wave.
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On June 12 2015 23:24 YouGotNothin wrote:
If you Polymorph (Brightwing's W) an Illidan right after he uses Evasion, does he lose the evasion buff or does it continue for the full duration while he is polymorphed?
Evasion will continue while he is polymorphed.
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On June 13 2015 05:56 Sewi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 05:48 Valiver wrote:On June 13 2015 05:22 Sewi wrote:
If you play Illidan and want to use Evasion in team fights, how do you not die in 1 second against any good team? I always get focused and die immediately, even if I get the HP buff from 3 or more opponents. When I just run away I can't take advantage of my heroic... Are you getting the Sixth Sense talent at lvl 13? That makes a huge difference. Yes, I do. The problem is that every time I do my heroic metamorphosis, the whole enemy team focus me. I use first aid and evasion and still I feel like I die in a second.
In my experience, if there is a team fight, you need to walk into the fight, and use your abilities to disengage, rather than to engage. Your ultimate can be used as an escape. Also, engaging as Illidan is best when the enemy team has already started using their abilities on your team mates, so you need to watch for your window to jump in.
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I have a questions about mounts. I see people on Raynor have a special color cyber wolf mount. Is like greenish. I have also seen a white cyber wolf but i dont remember on who. How do you get these mounts as they dont seem to match the ones in the shop. I know the wolf with the horn is from the WoW lvl 100, but these wolf mounts idk and people who have them won't tell me.
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On June 20 2015 07:37 zeratul_jf wrote:
I have a questions about mounts. I see people on Raynor have a special color cyber wolf mount. Is like greenish. I have also seen a white cyber wolf but i dont remember on who. How do you get these mounts as they dont seem to match the ones in the shop. I know the wolf with the horn is from the WoW lvl 100, but these wolf mounts idk and people who have them won't tell me.
Recolors on the Golden Wolf. (which you get with certain bundles?)
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Mexico2170 Posts
There was a special Cyber Wolf mount for those who bought early access to the game between january-march or something.
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Just started playing (my first moba), so have a few newb questions:
1. How do you ask assistance for specific thing, I see people announcing 'X wants your assistance to Kill/Capture', but when I go and use G and Ask assistance, it only says 'X wants assistance'.
2. What's with those giant torpedos in late game, is this meant to speed late game and prevent stalemates?
3. Is the game too much p2w? From what I can see, you can buy new powerful heroes, you can buy xp gains - both of which could help someone be better at the game. Daily deals are the best . 50% off! And I'm thinking, cool, I can buy sonya for 2k gold, but oh wait, it's only discount on RMT.
4. Why is the death penalty in late game so long?:/ You can basically die in 1 seconds if you get ganked and then it's 60seconds of staring at the screen. You then become impatient, rush into the game, and get 1-ko by few stun skills, and then it's another 60s of pondering your existence.
Other than that, seems like a nice game. Manage to get 6k coins and bought Sonya, so if she proves to be fun I'll continue playing, if not then Mobas are probably not for me. Oh yeah, played a couple of player teams vs AI quickmatches, constantly got called idiot, retard, noob etc.
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Radfield
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1. Using Alt key allows you to ping on the map. When you ping on a merc camp, fort, objective, enemy, ally, etc it will show the appropriate msg. In addition, you can click and hold while the alt key is down, and a small directional menu will pop up with the options: Danger, Assist Me, On My Way, Defend. I find the smart ping system SUPER handy.
2. Not sure what the giant torpedoes are, but you could be referring to SGT Hammers Heroic Ability. If so that is just a unique ability tied to one hero. However, many maps DO have objectives that speed along the endgame.
3. I don't think the game is remotely p2w. There are MANY characters that are solid and competitive, and at a medium or low level, every single character can be effective.
4. I assume the late-game death penalty is to speed up the end-game. Also, ideally you wouldn't be in a situation to get ganked too often late game  Stick with your team!
There are plenty of cancerous players, especially when you are a new player making mistakes. However, there are also plenty of patient players, especially if you mention that you're just starting out. Gold piles up pretty quick during your first few weeks of playing as well. Playing 12-20 games a week I had around 10 characters purchased after about a month of playing?
EDIT: Also, each character to that you get to lvl 5 grants 500 gold, so LVLing the weekly free characters up to 5 allows you to build up gold quickly.
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Thanks for the reply! Yeah, the 2 is probably a heroic ability, it's a missile that is launched from enemies camp and travels all over the map to our base camp, and you can see it on the minimap.
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Radfield
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yeah, that sounds like SGT Hammer's ability. After lvl 20 talent, the missile just travels round and round the map.
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thank you very much I was looking for something like this but I guess my Google skills failed me. Good to know TL members always have my back lol.
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hmmm does someone know if Zagaras Infest works on promoted minions. And does Possession work on prometed minions ?
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Why are AI matches in this game so freaking hard?
I'm trying to practice a bit with my hero and get the hang of which skills to pick on level up, but my AI team just gets destroyed over and over again. Not very fun so far:/
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On June 21 2015 18:13 Odoakar wrote:
Why are AI matches in this game so freaking hard?
I'm trying to practice a bit with my hero and get the hang of which skills to pick on level up, but my AI team just gets destroyed over and over again. Not very fun so far:/
They are not supposed to be o.O are they YOLO pushing or something? I usually play coop so if you want I can play a few coops with you until you get the hang of it.
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On June 21 2015 18:13 Odoakar wrote:
Why are AI matches in this game so freaking hard?
I'm trying to practice a bit with my hero and get the hang of which skills to pick on level up, but my AI team just gets destroyed over and over again. Not very fun so far:/
Do you play practice mode or coop mode with KI? tldr would be the simple answer, sorry ^^; .
If you play coop mode with KI (there is a checkbox in the lower left when Coop mode is selected), then your KI won't group like the enemy KI, so you are getting run over past level 10. If the enemy KI groups in coop you will have to ping all 4 bots and not die, since then your AI will go their way and the opponent will just 5 push further.
Anyway the extreme KI starts a push at some point and won't defend. So basically they start a basetrade until one side reaches a keep/core then they tp to defend. Only pinging them will change this.
Some objectives also make the AI derp a little so they don't cover all lanes anymore and get super behind in exp. Usually on the player side, since you often win the first objectives and all bots will just go to the nearest lane. Can fix this by pingin one and bringing it to another lane and release control there.
KI will push with the creep waves, so killing the creep wave will even make 5 bots run away against 1 person not easy to clear waves though.
tldr - need to ping all 4 bots in coop the moment they go into basetrade mode (one side pushes top the other bot until one side reaches core)
As for practice, bots there usually react to what you do. If you merc at a bad timing, they might lose alot of soak. Otherwise practice KI is focusing creeps over heroes, so a match with those bots takes hours if you would let them do a 5v5.
If you want your bots to not mess up kill bots in one lane a few times so they lose soak, then your bots will usually push all 3 lanes without issues. And don't do mercs if their lanes are pushed rather close to their towers.
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Thanks for the replies, the game's become much better since I started practicing with other players against AI.
I still can't figure out the ping system, though. Even when I click on the objective (camp, enemy player..) I still get that default radial menu with four options and 'asks assistance' message. Other players always call for something specific. For example:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kxwsKFi.png)
What am I doing wrong? Am I misclicking objects and getting the default ping options?
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You can use "G" to ping the map,
If you ping on certains thing the message change.
Ping on yourself and you'll ask for assistance
Ping on an ennemy heroes and you'll call for a kill
Ping on an objectig and you'll get a message telling you want to do an objectif, kill a fort and those kind of thing
and if you use "V" you'll call for retreat
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