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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
June 25 2014 14:47 GMT
#101
As I tried to point out, I'm sure Greendotz was referring to the designer/developers for the Naxx expansion, not the board members at Activision...
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
nickisthereason
Profile Joined April 2014
United States0 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 15:05:50
June 25 2014 15:03 GMT
#102
On June 25 2014 23:32 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 21:01 nickisthereason wrote:
On June 25 2014 06:16 idkfa wrote:
On June 25 2014 05:02 nickisthereason wrote:
On June 25 2014 04:51 Greendotz wrote:
I'm glad to get this information and all, but I do feel a little bad for companies that put a lot of work into a new exciting product only to have it leaked. Both revealing an unfinished product and essentially pissing on their big "reveal" fanfare.


Yeah you're right. Poor, billion dollar company, Blizzard. Boo-freakin'-hoo.


Blizzard makes games we like and makes them well. I don't see them doing wrong by anybody. Why are you taking this attitude?


Im not hating on Blizzard. They are great at making games, but they are even better at making a profit. And to 'feel bad' for a company that makes hundreds of millions of dollars, who is known for, when it all comes down to it, just caring about money, is silly.

Its like saying "I feel bad for Donald Trump because I saw his ice cream fall off his cone when he was at Disney World, which he had all to himself since he bought every ticket that day."

i think there's a difference between financial success and having the fruits of your creative work spoiled though. also not every employee that works on Hearthstone is necessarily rich just because their company is.


yeah you are right, there is a difference. I dont know what your point is.

The original poster said specifically 'companies', and all I am saying is i think it is silly to feel bad for Blizzard, a company, which is a for-profit, very successful, sometimes cut-throat, very competitive company that makes good games, just cuz some images were leaked. If he meant the creative team, then fine, but that was not what i was, or have been, referring too.

Also, you are assuming the designers are upset that images were leaked. Which they could be. But if you were an artist working for a company, the game designers and creative team, creating art and designing really cool things, you might also want people to enjoy and see it. Right? And you might not like IF the company you worked for was holding people back from enjoying your art. And if your art "got out there" you might be excited and really want to know what people think.

For all we know Blizzard has been sitting on this expansion for a while now, with these designers wanting their work out there. And lets face it, there is no real reason the creative team to be upset by the image leak. They created really cool stuff, got paid for, and everyone will be fully enjoying it soon enough. Blizzard is the only one who has a reason for the images not to be leaked. Which is probably just a policy that any and all images related to unreleased games stay within the company.
Doc Daneeka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States577 Posts
June 25 2014 17:33 GMT
#103
it's sort of a tangent. if anyone should be bummed, it's you, the person who doesn't get to open the present without knowing what's in it. sort of like "yeah, my parents got me megatron for christmas, i just have to wait x weeks to play with him". in this day and age, probably very few people give a shit about the surprise, but i'm one of them and i'll be trying my best to forget i looked at those screenshots just in case this turns out to be real.
payed off security
S1eth
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria221 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 19:39:23
June 25 2014 19:39 GMT
#104
So, could we discuss the actual cards a bit more rather than Blizzard and their wealth?
Here some cards that haven't been talked about a lot:

1/4 gargoyles that heal to full at the beginning of your turn (mana cost unknown)
Maexxna: 2/8 beast for 5 mana. Destroy any minion damaged by this minion.
Loatheb: ?/? for ? mana. Cards with Battlecry cost 5 more.
2/8 minion for 3 mana. Has Taunt and a Deathrattle that gives your opponent a random minion from his deck.
2/1 spider for 2 mana that turns into two 1/1 spiders on death.
4/3 minion for 5 mana with Taunt that becomes a 1/1 minion with Taunt on death.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
June 25 2014 20:20 GMT
#105
On June 26 2014 04:39 S1eth wrote:
So, could we discuss the actual cards a bit more rather than Blizzard and their wealth?
Here some cards that haven't been talked about a lot:

1/4 gargoyles that heal to full at the beginning of your turn (mana cost unknown)
Maexxna: 2/8 beast for 5 mana. Destroy any minion damaged by this minion.
Loatheb: ?/? for ? mana. Cards with Battlecry cost 5 more.
2/8 minion for 3 mana. Has Taunt and a Deathrattle that gives your opponent a random minion from his deck.
2/1 spider for 2 mana that turns into two 1/1 spiders on death.
4/3 minion for 5 mana with Taunt that becomes a 1/1 minion with Taunt on death.

Maex seems interesting, although if that's an actual playable card, doesn't that go against the theme of Naxx in this? Maex was a boss, and it looks like at least Patchwerk and Gothikk are "characters" not cards.
The universe created an audience for itself.
nickisthereason
Profile Joined April 2014
United States0 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 20:24:04
June 25 2014 20:20 GMT
#106
Where is Loatheb image? I could only see image of boss, not card.

It messes with Black Knight but more importantly this is a very anti-Zoo card. Shattered Sun Cleric, Abusive Sergeant, Dark Iron Dwarf, Doomguard, etc., all f-ed.
S1eth
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria221 Posts
June 25 2014 20:32 GMT
#107
On June 26 2014 05:20 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 04:39 S1eth wrote:
So, could we discuss the actual cards a bit more rather than Blizzard and their wealth?
Here some cards that haven't been talked about a lot:

1/4 gargoyles that heal to full at the beginning of your turn (mana cost unknown)
Maexxna: 2/8 beast for 5 mana. Destroy any minion damaged by this minion.
Loatheb: ?/? for ? mana. Cards with Battlecry cost 5 more.
2/8 minion for 3 mana. Has Taunt and a Deathrattle that gives your opponent a random minion from his deck.
2/1 spider for 2 mana that turns into two 1/1 spiders on death.
4/3 minion for 5 mana with Taunt that becomes a 1/1 minion with Taunt on death.

Maex seems interesting, although if that's an actual playable card, doesn't that go against the theme of Naxx in this? Maex was a boss, and it looks like at least Patchwerk and Gothikk are "characters" not cards.

Baron Rivendare is also a boss character from the 4 horsemen fight, and is a playable legendary reward.
S1eth
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria221 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 20:34:12
June 25 2014 20:33 GMT
#108
Where is Loatheb image?

There is no image, or we would know the mana cost and stats.
It's from the deleted hearthead article, so the info is most likely directly from the BBS source.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
June 25 2014 22:02 GMT
#109
On June 26 2014 05:32 S1eth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 05:20 Mortal wrote:
On June 26 2014 04:39 S1eth wrote:
So, could we discuss the actual cards a bit more rather than Blizzard and their wealth?
Here some cards that haven't been talked about a lot:

1/4 gargoyles that heal to full at the beginning of your turn (mana cost unknown)
Maexxna: 2/8 beast for 5 mana. Destroy any minion damaged by this minion.
Loatheb: ?/? for ? mana. Cards with Battlecry cost 5 more.
2/8 minion for 3 mana. Has Taunt and a Deathrattle that gives your opponent a random minion from his deck.
2/1 spider for 2 mana that turns into two 1/1 spiders on death.
4/3 minion for 5 mana with Taunt that becomes a 1/1 minion with Taunt on death.

Maex seems interesting, although if that's an actual playable card, doesn't that go against the theme of Naxx in this? Maex was a boss, and it looks like at least Patchwerk and Gothikk are "characters" not cards.

Baron Rivendare is also a boss character from the 4 horsemen fight, and is a playable legendary reward.

I feel similarly about that. I feel like making some playable cards, and some not is just an odd call. They could at least make the rest of the horsemen playable. It's nit-picking, but continuity is nice.
The universe created an audience for itself.
S1eth
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria221 Posts
June 25 2014 22:04 GMT
#110
On June 26 2014 07:02 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 05:32 S1eth wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:20 Mortal wrote:
On June 26 2014 04:39 S1eth wrote:
So, could we discuss the actual cards a bit more rather than Blizzard and their wealth?
Here some cards that haven't been talked about a lot:

1/4 gargoyles that heal to full at the beginning of your turn (mana cost unknown)
Maexxna: 2/8 beast for 5 mana. Destroy any minion damaged by this minion.
Loatheb: ?/? for ? mana. Cards with Battlecry cost 5 more.
2/8 minion for 3 mana. Has Taunt and a Deathrattle that gives your opponent a random minion from his deck.
2/1 spider for 2 mana that turns into two 1/1 spiders on death.
4/3 minion for 5 mana with Taunt that becomes a 1/1 minion with Taunt on death.

Maex seems interesting, although if that's an actual playable card, doesn't that go against the theme of Naxx in this? Maex was a boss, and it looks like at least Patchwerk and Gothikk are "characters" not cards.

Baron Rivendare is also a boss character from the 4 horsemen fight, and is a playable legendary reward.

I feel similarly about that. I feel like making some playable cards, and some not is just an odd call. They could at least make the rest of the horsemen playable. It's nit-picking, but continuity is nice.

But then they wouldn't be able to make overpowered cards for your AI opponent.
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
June 25 2014 22:06 GMT
#111
On June 26 2014 07:04 S1eth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 07:02 Mortal wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:32 S1eth wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:20 Mortal wrote:
On June 26 2014 04:39 S1eth wrote:
So, could we discuss the actual cards a bit more rather than Blizzard and their wealth?
Here some cards that haven't been talked about a lot:

1/4 gargoyles that heal to full at the beginning of your turn (mana cost unknown)
Maexxna: 2/8 beast for 5 mana. Destroy any minion damaged by this minion.
Loatheb: ?/? for ? mana. Cards with Battlecry cost 5 more.
2/8 minion for 3 mana. Has Taunt and a Deathrattle that gives your opponent a random minion from his deck.
2/1 spider for 2 mana that turns into two 1/1 spiders on death.
4/3 minion for 5 mana with Taunt that becomes a 1/1 minion with Taunt on death.

Maex seems interesting, although if that's an actual playable card, doesn't that go against the theme of Naxx in this? Maex was a boss, and it looks like at least Patchwerk and Gothikk are "characters" not cards.

Baron Rivendare is also a boss character from the 4 horsemen fight, and is a playable legendary reward.

I feel similarly about that. I feel like making some playable cards, and some not is just an odd call. They could at least make the rest of the horsemen playable. It's nit-picking, but continuity is nice.

But then they wouldn't be able to make overpowered cards for your AI opponent.

BUT...DESIGN
The universe created an audience for itself.
TiberiusAk
Profile Joined August 2011
United States122 Posts
June 26 2014 03:54 GMT
#112
On June 26 2014 07:02 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 05:32 S1eth wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:20 Mortal wrote:
On June 26 2014 04:39 S1eth wrote:
So, could we discuss the actual cards a bit more rather than Blizzard and their wealth?
Here some cards that haven't been talked about a lot:

1/4 gargoyles that heal to full at the beginning of your turn (mana cost unknown)
Maexxna: 2/8 beast for 5 mana. Destroy any minion damaged by this minion.
Loatheb: ?/? for ? mana. Cards with Battlecry cost 5 more.
2/8 minion for 3 mana. Has Taunt and a Deathrattle that gives your opponent a random minion from his deck.
2/1 spider for 2 mana that turns into two 1/1 spiders on death.
4/3 minion for 5 mana with Taunt that becomes a 1/1 minion with Taunt on death.

Maex seems interesting, although if that's an actual playable card, doesn't that go against the theme of Naxx in this? Maex was a boss, and it looks like at least Patchwerk and Gothikk are "characters" not cards.

Baron Rivendare is also a boss character from the 4 horsemen fight, and is a playable legendary reward.

I feel similarly about that. I feel like making some playable cards, and some not is just an odd call. They could at least make the rest of the horsemen playable. It's nit-picking, but continuity is nice.

I think this is where lore comes in because in the context of the raid, the continuity is solid; the choice of Maexxna and Loatheb, but not Patchwerk and Gothikk is consistent because they are the last (and biggest) bosses of their wings. See here for the list: http://www.wowhead.com/zone=3456/naxxramas.

Thaddius (summoned by the guys you have to kill to start his encounter), Baron Rivendare (not sure why him over/instead the other 4, but there's probably a lore reason), and Kel'Thuzad complete the set of "end" bosses.
"I like the new weapon, it's solid removal with a really nice deathrattle in a mech deck. The murloc is a little confusing though, not sure why they thought shamans needed a murloc."
The_Masked_Shrimp
Profile Joined February 2012
425 Posts
June 26 2014 04:35 GMT
#113
On June 26 2014 02:33 Doc Daneeka wrote:
in this day and age, probably very few people give a shit about the surprise, but i'm one of them .


you just went into a thread with " Major Spoilers" in the title .....

And it's Baron Rivendare because he was also a boss in Stratholm. Lorewise he was a friend of khel'thuzad
Doc Daneeka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States577 Posts
June 26 2014 06:07 GMT
#114
On June 26 2014 13:35 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 02:33 Doc Daneeka wrote:
in this day and age, probably very few people give a shit about the surprise, but i'm one of them .


you just went into a thread with " Major Spoilers" in the title .....



thanks, i didn't realize that. i totally wouldn't have clicked on it if i had noticed that despite my burning curiosity.
payed off security
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 26 2014 10:18 GMT
#115
its been a week since the last class card reveal maybe we will get a release date today
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
June 26 2014 10:42 GMT
#116
On June 26 2014 19:18 Zaros wrote:
its been a week since the last class card reveal maybe we will get a release date today


Soon™
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 26 2014 11:40 GMT
#117
On June 26 2014 12:54 TiberiusAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 07:02 Mortal wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:32 S1eth wrote:
On June 26 2014 05:20 Mortal wrote:
On June 26 2014 04:39 S1eth wrote:
So, could we discuss the actual cards a bit more rather than Blizzard and their wealth?
Here some cards that haven't been talked about a lot:

1/4 gargoyles that heal to full at the beginning of your turn (mana cost unknown)
Maexxna: 2/8 beast for 5 mana. Destroy any minion damaged by this minion.
Loatheb: ?/? for ? mana. Cards with Battlecry cost 5 more.
2/8 minion for 3 mana. Has Taunt and a Deathrattle that gives your opponent a random minion from his deck.
2/1 spider for 2 mana that turns into two 1/1 spiders on death.
4/3 minion for 5 mana with Taunt that becomes a 1/1 minion with Taunt on death.

Maex seems interesting, although if that's an actual playable card, doesn't that go against the theme of Naxx in this? Maex was a boss, and it looks like at least Patchwerk and Gothikk are "characters" not cards.

Baron Rivendare is also a boss character from the 4 horsemen fight, and is a playable legendary reward.

I feel similarly about that. I feel like making some playable cards, and some not is just an odd call. They could at least make the rest of the horsemen playable. It's nit-picking, but continuity is nice.

I think this is where lore comes in because in the context of the raid, the continuity is solid; the choice of Maexxna and Loatheb, but not Patchwerk and Gothikk is consistent because they are the last (and biggest) bosses of their wings. See here for the list: http://www.wowhead.com/zone=3456/naxxramas.

Thaddius (summoned by the guys you have to kill to start his encounter), Baron Rivendare (not sure why him over/instead the other 4, but there's probably a lore reason), and Kel'Thuzad complete the set of "end" bosses.


I think Ben Brode said on twitter that they picked him over Mograine because he was more well known I think you can assume the same reason for why they picked him as the card as well.
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
June 26 2014 12:23 GMT
#118
I wouldn't be shocked if Mograine appeared in the inevitable DK expansion. He's probably the most well known Death Knight after Arthas, who is likely to be the hero.

He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
June 26 2014 13:50 GMT
#119
On June 26 2014 05:20 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 04:39 S1eth wrote:
So, could we discuss the actual cards a bit more rather than Blizzard and their wealth?
Here some cards that haven't been talked about a lot:

1/4 gargoyles that heal to full at the beginning of your turn (mana cost unknown)
Maexxna: 2/8 beast for 5 mana. Destroy any minion damaged by this minion.
Loatheb: ?/? for ? mana. Cards with Battlecry cost 5 more.
2/8 minion for 3 mana. Has Taunt and a Deathrattle that gives your opponent a random minion from his deck.
2/1 spider for 2 mana that turns into two 1/1 spiders on death.
4/3 minion for 5 mana with Taunt that becomes a 1/1 minion with Taunt on death.

Maex seems interesting, although if that's an actual playable card, doesn't that go against the theme of Naxx in this? Maex was a boss, and it looks like at least Patchwerk and Gothikk are "characters" not cards.


All of the bosses are going to be legendary cards as well, similar to how many of the enemies you face in the tutorial are legendary cards in the game.

Also, I'm pretty sure the 1/4 gargoyles that heal back up are computer only cards. They didn't seem to have a rarity.

Which does raise the question...can Priests use thoughtsteal against bosses in Naxx? Stealing some of these sweet OP computer cards could be fun.
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 26 2014 15:39 GMT
#120
On June 26 2014 22:50 awesomoecalypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 05:20 Mortal wrote:
On June 26 2014 04:39 S1eth wrote:
So, could we discuss the actual cards a bit more rather than Blizzard and their wealth?
Here some cards that haven't been talked about a lot:

1/4 gargoyles that heal to full at the beginning of your turn (mana cost unknown)
Maexxna: 2/8 beast for 5 mana. Destroy any minion damaged by this minion.
Loatheb: ?/? for ? mana. Cards with Battlecry cost 5 more.
2/8 minion for 3 mana. Has Taunt and a Deathrattle that gives your opponent a random minion from his deck.
2/1 spider for 2 mana that turns into two 1/1 spiders on death.
4/3 minion for 5 mana with Taunt that becomes a 1/1 minion with Taunt on death.

Maex seems interesting, although if that's an actual playable card, doesn't that go against the theme of Naxx in this? Maex was a boss, and it looks like at least Patchwerk and Gothikk are "characters" not cards.


All of the bosses are going to be legendary cards as well, similar to how many of the enemies you face in the tutorial are legendary cards in the game.

Also, I'm pretty sure the 1/4 gargoyles that heal back up are computer only cards. They didn't seem to have a rarity.

Which does raise the question...can Priests use thoughtsteal against bosses in Naxx? Stealing some of these sweet OP computer cards could be fun.


Just don't use thoughtsteal against patchwerk
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