EPTNever figured out why they really needed another extension. .doc was good enough
.docX is dead! Yay! - Page 6
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konadora
Singapore66365 Posts
Never figured out why they really needed another extension. .doc was good enough | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
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Adeny
Norway1233 Posts
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sith
United States2474 Posts
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Insane Lane
United States397 Posts
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sith
United States2474 Posts
On August 14 2009 00:15 Insane Lane wrote: And the nub question: Should i buy Microsoft Office ASAP then, or is there no need to worry? (Just got a new laptop with only the trial on here so far) No need to worry, this lawsuit is going to have literally no effect on the actual sale of Word, it's going to get overturned as soon as MS appeals it. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On August 13 2009 22:40 Badjas wrote: If mom and pops can afford the disk space to the extend that they don't need to look after the file sizes of their word documents, then so can companies small and large. The amount of storage space spent is proportionate to turnover, depending on the kind of work the company does of course. Mom and Pops don't have enough volume that doing anything differently would make a substantial difference, nor are they aware of it. The argument against .docx stupid, and no different than arguing type writers > keyboards. Fuck, why do we need calculators? Abacus does well enough. COMBUSTION ENGINE? I"VE GOT A STEAM ENGINE THAT WORKS FINE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FUCK you people are dumb. I've seen long papers drop in size about 9x from going .doc to .docx. Do you realize how much bandwidth that saves across the internet in general, and in company intranets? Not to mention there's a ton more things you can do with XML, which is why companies prefer it. If you're too lazy to download the free Office Compatibility pack, then that's all on you. And Open Office and iWorks and every other modern programs on the planet read .docx, so what people are complaining about. OOXML > ODF > .doc | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
.docx is pretty useless for the home/school user, but i guess they put it in to answer business demands. | ||
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white_box921
United Kingdom967 Posts
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
On August 14 2009 00:19 Jibba wrote: Mom and Pops don't have enough volume that doing anything differently would make a substantial difference, nor are they aware of it. The argument against .docx stupid, and no different than arguing type writers > keyboards. Fuck, why do we need calculators? Abacus does well enough. COMBUSTION ENGINE? I"VE GOT A STEAM ENGINE THAT WORKS FINE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FUCK you people are dumb. I've seen long papers drop in size about 9x from going .doc to .docx. Do you realize how much bandwidth that saves across the internet in general, and in company intranets? Not to mention there's a ton more things you can do with XML, which is why companies prefer it. If you're too lazy to download the free Office Compatibility pack, then that's all on you. And Open Office and iWorks and every other modern programs on the planet read .docx, so what people are complaining about. OOXML > ODF > .doc If it is any big of a deal then people would already solve the space/size issue by simply compressing the documents to zip files. which is what docx does. Try compressing docx files, you won't get much out of that. Now it used to be that people would send their docs in a zip file across the internet. They still might do that, in which case for those people, that docx format saves them a step. big deal. And about your stupid steam engine comparison, I was discussing only about the merits of docx's file size. The format probably has other advantages. Way to make an analogy. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On August 14 2009 00:07 Adeny wrote: What? Those are completely different formats. The similarity of the format doesn't particularly pertain to the point, which is that we shouldn't be staying on a past format just because of the popular support that it has. Given that txt is practically universal, doesn't that beat out doc? People are making a deal out of a conversion that isn't remotely difficult, a conversion that provides benefits because...what, they are too lazy to google? On August 14 2009 00:17 sith wrote: No need to worry, this lawsuit is going to have literally no effect on the actual sale of Word, it's going to get overturned as soon as MS appeals it. I am not really optimistic about the prospect of that, more like they'll extort a deal out of MS because of how immediate the injunction is. On August 14 2009 01:11 Badjas wrote: If it is any big of a deal then people would already solve the space/size issue by simply compressing the documents to zip files. which is what docx does. Try compressing docx files, you won't get much out of that. Now it used to be that people would send their docs in a zip file across the internet. They still might do that, in which case for those people, that docx format saves them a step. big deal. And about your stupid steam engine comparison, I was discussing only about the merits of docx's file size. The format probably has other advantages. Way to make an analogy. One of Microsoft's argument for their newer platforms is in fact the one or two minor step that it saves. It is a big deal, if you do enough of the work then it certainly adds up. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
I am not really optimistic about the prospect of that, more like they'll extort a deal out of MS because of how immediate the injunction is. This. It's also stupid that only MS is getting slapped with this, since every other company on the planet uses XML the same way. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On August 14 2009 00:19 Jibba wrote: Mom and Pops don't have enough volume that doing anything differently would make a substantial difference, nor are they aware of it. The argument against .docx stupid, and no different than arguing type writers > keyboards. Fuck, why do we need calculators? Abacus does well enough. COMBUSTION ENGINE? I"VE GOT A STEAM ENGINE THAT WORKS FINE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FUCK you people are dumb. I've seen long papers drop in size about 9x from going .doc to .docx. Do you realize how much bandwidth that saves across the internet in general, and in company intranets? Not to mention there's a ton more things you can do with XML, which is why companies prefer it. If you're too lazy to download the free Office Compatibility pack, then that's all on you. And Open Office and iWorks and every other modern programs on the planet read .docx, so what people are complaining about. OOXML > ODF > .doc .docx is a better file format than .doc, and the switch was a good idea. The implementation was utterly horrible- Microsoft should've made sure there was a very easy and intuitive way for older versions of Word to get an update to become forwards-compatible with .docx- say, an automatic online update. The fact is, half the computers you take a .docx document to won't be able to read said file, which makes .docx more trouble than it's worth. Given the shitty implementation of the format switch, it's better if it had never happened in the first place, although the best-case scenario would've been a good implementation of the switch to the .docx format. | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On August 14 2009 01:15 Jibba wrote: This. It's also stupid that only MS is getting slapped with this, since every other company on the planet uses XML the same way. Wait for it, Rambus style suing the shit out of everyone for a long period of time and running the company off the profits derived from these blackmail. | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On August 14 2009 01:16 Zato-1 wrote: The Office Compatibility Pack was released before Office 2007. What did you expect them to do differently? Most people have autoupdate turned off, and they simply failed to Google it when the problem arose..docx is a better file format than .doc, and the switch was a good idea. The implementation was utterly horrible- Microsoft should've made sure there was a very easy and intuitive way for older versions of Word to get an update to become forwards-compatible with .docx- say, an automatic online update. The fact is, half the computers you take a .docx document to won't be able to read said file, which makes .docx more trouble than it's worth. Given the shitty implementation of the format switch, it's better if it had never happened in the first place, although the best-case scenario would've been a good implementation of the switch to the .docx format. | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
some guy with more detail http://www.techreport.com/ja.zz?id=420873 | ||
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ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On August 13 2009 12:05 Abyzou wrote: Holy fuck I hated docx THANK YOU TEXAS JUDGE YOU ARE A MANLY MAN. And yes tons of people in my class had that problem with documents that wouldn't fly on school computers. Microsoft is retarded sometimes. I find this kind of reasoning to be silly. Seems like everybody who screams "HURRAY" do it because they've had problems finding something to open the files with etc. Obviously then, the problem is not with the format itself, it's with the software you use and/or people who send .docx files. Microsoft is not retarded for wanting to use a more modern, better file format for their Word application. In summary: if you have a .docx file on your computer and can't open it then either 1) You're stupid; or 2) The person who provided you with the file is stupid. | ||
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Abyzou
Sweden209 Posts
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AssuredVacancy
United States1167 Posts
On August 14 2009 01:41 XsebT wrote: Great news! But please start using openoffice.org and support the free revolution. :o) You can be all internet hipster and whatnot, but the truth is open office just lack many of the functionalities that microsoft office has and is just overall an inferior piece of software. | ||
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