Eminem alleged that he and superstar Mariah Carey had a relationship, although she denies the claim. He released a song called "Bagpipes from Baghdad" which calls her a "whore"; refers to her husband, Nick Cannon, as a "sucker"; and name-checks her former beau, Luis Miguel.She responded by releasing the single Obsessed, in which she sang "Why are you obsessed with me, lying that you're sexing me?" On July 30, Eminem released a diss track directed at Mariah Carey and husband Nick Cannon called The Warning. He responded to the single Obsessed by saying, "I’m obsessed now, oh gee, Is that supposed to be me, In the video with the goatee, Wow, Mariah didn’t expect you to go balls out, Bitch Shut The Fuck Up!, Before I put all them phone calls out,".
You don't see many female male diss songs. I'm sure they get back in the spotlight again and make a lot of $$$ of this shit. I'm really not a fan of their music but they know how to feed their sheep. Great marketing.
At least Mariah's track was worth listening to. Eminem needs to just fade out with his shrill voice and lame schtick. Instead of innovating his style, he's just relying on the same old shockjock gimmick. What's wrong with him? Sers. Everyone knows the pop industry is a joke. But he seems to have his panties permanently in a wad over it. All he ever raps about is how stupid pop chicks are. Big deal! If Eminem is so much better, why's he spending all his time in the gutter fighting with them?
On July 31 2009 17:04 BisuBoi wrote: Mariah 1 - 0 Eminem.
At least Mariah's track was worth listening to. Eminem needs to just fade out with his shrill voice and lame schtick. Instead of innovating his style, he's just relying on the same old shockjock gimmick. What's wrong with him? Sers. Everyone knows the pop industry is a joke. But he seems to have his panties permanently in a wad over it. All he ever raps about is how stupid pop chicks are. Big deal! If Eminem is so much better, why's he spending all his time in the gutter fighting with them?
Yeah, Eminem is such a stud. Picking fights with Christina Aguilera, the Backstreet Boys, and Mariah Carey. Truly a man's man. Who will he go after next? Miley Cyrus? I wish I was half as hardcore as he is. Then I too would go fight the mickey mouse club 24/7.
Like TheMusic said, Mariah can sing with the best of them. Eminem's become a sideshow. The only reason he ever got attention at all was because he's white and Dr. Dre adopted him as his blonde-haired stepson.
Do people who are saying Eminem doesn't pick fights with anyone but pop chicks actually know any of his older songs? Lol. Also, in the mainstream rap scene being part of a crew put you in any beefs that crew is in...just go look at some of Em's diss songs
On July 31 2009 15:34 JesusLovesYou6 wrote: You don't see many female male diss songs. I'm sure they get back in the spotlight again and make a lot of $$$ of this shit. I'm really not a fan of their music but they know how to feed their sheep. Great marketing.
On July 31 2009 15:34 JesusLovesYou6 wrote: I'm sure they get back in the spotlight again and make a lot of $$$ of this shit. I'm really not a fan of their music but they know how to feed their sheep. Great marketing.
On July 31 2009 15:34 JesusLovesYou6 wrote: back in the spotlight make a lot of $$$ Great marketing.
On July 31 2009 15:34 JesusLovesYou6 wrote: spotlight $$$ marketing
On July 31 2009 15:05 Grobyc wrote: Flirting was done on the playground in elementary school by teasing/making fun of the person they like. Eminem hasn't grown up? + Show Spoiler +
I can't believe some of you teenage punks dismissing Mariah Carey as nothing but a pop trash. Whether you like her or not, Mariah Carey is the most succesful female singer of all times. She has massive acomplishments under her name, I think she has 19 number one singles which I think is a tie with Beatles? (She will most proabably beat Beatles unless she retires all of a sudden) She won five grammy awards and she was awarded the best-selling female pop artist of the millennium at the 2000 World Music Awards. She also holds guiness book of record for hitting the highest note for singing national anthem at Superbowl event. There is no doubt that she is extremely talented and gifted, comparable to Whitney Houston.
Eminem on the other hand is one the most successful rapper of all times, selling over 75 million albums worldwide (Mariah has sold over 200 mil), which makes him worthy of an opponent.
Getting in a word fight with a person like that, besides being a rap artist which is a modern poet, playing with words like having a breakfast, is insanity. I wouldn't have the guts to do that, only if I could impact him otherwise
On the other side, that's pretty low of him to talk openly like that, I guess rappers are "open" like that. And the track is kind of solid. But what's weirdest for me is what the hell did he find in her.
On July 31 2009 23:35 RA wrote: Getting in a word fight with a person like that, besides being a rap artist which is a modern poet, playing with words like having a breakfast, is insanity. I wouldn't have the guts to do that, only if I could impact him otherwise
On the other side, that's pretty low of him to talk openly like that, I guess rappers are "open" like that. And the track is kind of solid. But what's weirdest for me is what the hell did he find in her.
Really? You don't find her attractive at all? She's also a very talented singer. Even if the songs she sings are not good, her skills are undeniable.
Why can't eminem do a full album like this? Just normal rapping with his sick rhymes. It would be so much better than all this fake singing and voice altering he's doing.
On July 31 2009 17:38 BisuBoi wrote: Yeah, Eminem is such a stud. Picking fights with Christina Aguilera, the Backstreet Boys, and Mariah Carey. Truly a man's man. Who will he go after next? Miley Cyrus? I wish I was half as hardcore as he is. Then I too would go fight the mickey mouse club 24/7.
Like TheMusic said, Mariah can sing with the best of them. Eminem's become a sideshow. The only reason he ever got attention at all was because he's white and Dr. Dre adopted him as his blonde-haired stepson.
All this "beef" stuff is funny. Its the male equivalent of a sex-tape "revelation" for a woman. Its good at two points in one's career: when you're just starting out (Paris Hilton) or when you're getting desperate and need some headlines (Eminem, Erin Andrews more recently - still cute, but 30 and fading fast) etc.
So enjoy the show but don't take it too seriously.
Even if you don't like Eminem's lyrics, it's undeniable that he's skilled at rhyming. While it's true that anyone can rap, not anyone can rhyme well. It's difficult to come up with multiple syllable rhymes for each line while remaining coherent. A lot of people who hate rap don't realize that.
Some of his rhymes are quite witty too, like "Flavor with no seasoning, this is the sneak preview I'll diss your magazine and still won't get a weak review"
On July 31 2009 15:21 Velr wrote: The world would be better if marriah would never have sang a song
are you kidding? Mariah Carey is one of the top female vocals. And she he has nice boobs.
This.
People also don't consider how fucking hot she is.
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On July 31 2009 23:35 RA wrote: Getting in a word fight with a person like that, besides being a rap artist which is a modern poet, playing with words like having a breakfast, is insanity. I wouldn't have the guts to do that, only if I could impact him otherwise
On the other side, that's pretty low of him to talk openly like that, I guess rappers are "open" like that. And the track is kind of solid. But what's weirdest for me is what the hell did he find in her.
"EEYYYY, IM JOCKIN ON YO BITCH ASS!" that is not poetry. NAS is poetry and hip-hop =D
On August 01 2009 00:34 citi.zen wrote: All this "beef" stuff is funny. Its the male equivalent of a sex-tape "revelation" for a woman. Its good at two points in one's career: when you're just starting out (Paris Hilton) or when you're getting desperate and need some headlines (Eminem, Erin Andrews more recently - still cute, but 30 and fading fast) etc.
So enjoy the show but don't take it too seriously.
Oh come on, that erin andrews "sex tape" is a huuuuuuuuge reach. She wasn't even having sex for fuck's sake.
regardless of if this is a publicity stunt or not, eminem will always be a legend in my book and many others.. he's a lyrical assassin, and has talent that only a few have.. yea, he might be lucky to have dre and 50 hold him up and support him, but that's what made him stronger. I don't think he's fake, and I think everything he spits comes straight from his heart - he fucked up benzino, ICP and many others (even though they are no-names, to be THAT confident in his capabilities and ambitions/morals to diss people just from his judgements shows that he is a TRUE rapper, that is, because he is still on the top & will remain a legend when he dies just as Tupac.. maybe not as significant as Tupac/Biggie Smalls obviously but he changed the rap game a lot). He obviously seems to hold the title of the most accomplished caucasian rapper, which is pretty significant and shows that race doesn't matter in the music industry (or specifically the rap industry).
my personal favorite song:
(lyrics are in description on the side of page)
favorite funny video of him at his concert back then hahaha:
On August 01 2009 00:34 citi.zen wrote: All this "beef" stuff is funny. Its the male equivalent of a sex-tape "revelation" for a woman. Its good at two points in one's career: when you're just starting out (Paris Hilton) or when you're getting desperate and need some headlines (Eminem, Erin Andrews more recently - still cute, but 30 and fading fast) etc.
So enjoy the show but don't take it too seriously.
Oh come on, that erin andrews "sex tape" is a huuuuuuuuge reach. She wasn't even having sex for fuck's sake.
Nobody knows who taped it & it was unknown it was her until ESPN threatened to sue that website out of the blue. Then the Post took over the story and it became a front page article. You can't deny the huge publicity boost to her and ESPN. Just saying...
On July 31 2009 23:56 Xusneb wrote: Why can't eminem do a full album like this? Just normal rapping with his sick rhymes. It would be so much better than all this fake singing and voice altering he's doing.
On August 01 2009 00:34 citi.zen wrote: All this "beef" stuff is funny. Its the male equivalent of a sex-tape "revelation" for a woman. Its good at two points in one's career: when you're just starting out (Paris Hilton) or when you're getting desperate and need some headlines (Eminem, Erin Andrews more recently - still cute, but 30 and fading fast) etc.
So enjoy the show but don't take it too seriously.
Oh come on, that erin andrews "sex tape" is a huuuuuuuuge reach. She wasn't even having sex for fuck's sake.
erin andrews ain't really fading fast... she's in a totally different industry with absolutely no rivals. and yeah it definitely wasn't a "sex tape"...
BisuBoi they are just dissing each other. I don't see how Mariah gets the high ground by the nature of her diss. Mariah is being stuck up, conceited, arrogant, whatever, and she's so embarrassed about the choices she made that she lies about them. Eminem is probably close to the opposite of that, as he revels in his fuck-ups, as you can hear in his songs, and I'd imagine that he just hates people with Mariah's attitude. Plus, with his roots as a freestyle rapper, he just likes to diss people. It's his art. It's his style. He could be a regular dude in real life, but when he's rapping, he acts a certain way, like an author might write about murderers, or an animator might draw singing bears. Their art doesn't define them. So while the subject matter might be real in this case, it's still given a very stylistic presentation.
And imo it's cool to see artists do things like this. Instead of thinking about the meta of it, just take it for what it is. What if some random guy you knew, or even some tl.netter, decided to make a diss song about an ex who is acting bitchy and fucking with him? It'd be awesomely entertaining. It'd take an asshole to come in and question the guy's motives. Eminem probably has a studio in the basement of his house. With his talent, he can write, produce and record a song like that in one day. Why wouldn't he? It's what he does haha. He certainly doesn't give a fuck about negative publicity -- about the people who think he's fucked up for spending his time on something like that.
On July 31 2009 23:35 RA wrote: But what's weirdest for me is what the hell did he find in her.
I guess we'll never know.
lol beautiful rebuttal.
And why anyone would think Eminem won this is beyond me. There's no worse diss than a girl rejecting a guy so bad that she wants to deny ever even being with him. Nothing Eminem says will change that. The fact that he tries to make two whole songs about the issue shows how twisted he is about it. Mariah's attitude the whole way through has been disdain. She's like lol, gtfo, you don't mean jack to me. Eminem's reaction has been shrill outrage and screaming that she shouldn't deny what went down.
In the end Eminem just looks like a multimillionaire that has been completely rejected by a chickenhead. If that's not pathetic, I don't know what is. You'd think a guy with that much money and fame wouldn't be sweating chicks. But he's obv just too lame. First it's his ex-wife (who's dumb AND fugly) and now he's rejected by Mariah Carey, who is an alcoholic soulmate of Nick Cannon.
If anyone actually has a decent rationale for why I'm wrong on this dynamic, feel free to comment. Using fanboy logic like spamming "Eminem owned her" isn't going to cut it...
Well first off we don't exactly know the details of when they were together, or who broke up with who (he mentions in the song about her "getting crazy" after 6 months or so, so for all we know he broke up with her, though that seems increasingly unlikely).
I think you've misinterpreted what most people mean by "won" too. They mean "won" as in who had the better disses and came back harder and faster than the other. Not who actually has the moral high ground in the situation.
On August 01 2009 00:54 reincremate wrote: Even if you don't like Eminem's lyrics, it's undeniable that he's skilled at rhyming. While it's true that anyone can rap, not anyone can rhyme well. It's difficult to come up with multiple syllable rhymes for each line while remaining coherent. A lot of people who hate rap don't realize that.
Some of his rhymes are quite witty too, like "Flavor with no seasoning, this is the sneak preview I'll diss your magazine and still won't get a weak review"
Actually that's a horrible rhyme lol. First of all, it barely if at all makes coherent sense, second of all, it's just plain weak and contrived, and third of all, a fourth grader could rhyme "preview" and "review". AND OMG HE MADE "SNEAK" AND "WEAK" RHYME TOO
True he actually knows how to rap, but his skill is incredibly overhyped.
Try Louis Logic.
This whole "beef" thing between Eminem and Mariah Carey is simply laughable and childish. Does anybody remember 2Pac vs. Biggie? "That's why I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker"
On July 31 2009 17:04 BisuBoi wrote: Mariah 1 - 0 Eminem.
At least Mariah's track was worth listening to. Eminem needs to just fade out with his shrill voice and lame schtick. Instead of innovating his style, he's just relying on the same old shockjock gimmick. What's wrong with him? Sers. Everyone knows the pop industry is a joke. But he seems to have his panties permanently in a wad over it. All he ever raps about is how stupid pop chicks are. Big deal! If Eminem is so much better, why's he spending all his time in the gutter fighting with them?
On August 01 2009 00:54 reincremate wrote: Even if you don't like Eminem's lyrics, it's undeniable that he's skilled at rhyming. While it's true that anyone can rap, not anyone can rhyme well. It's difficult to come up with multiple syllable rhymes for each line while remaining coherent. A lot of people who hate rap don't realize that.
Some of his rhymes are quite witty too, like "Flavor with no seasoning, this is the sneak preview I'll diss your magazine and still won't get a weak review"
Actually that's a horrible rhyme lol. First of all, it barely if at all makes coherent sense, second of all, it's just plain weak and contrived, and third of all, a fourth grader could rhyme "preview" and "review". AND OMG HE MADE "SNEAK" AND "WEAK" RHYME TOO
True he actually knows how to rap, but his skill is incredibly overhyped.
Try Louis Logic.
This whole "beef" thing between Eminem and Mariah Carey is simply laughable and childish. Does anybody remember 2Pac vs. Biggie? "That's why I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker"
I don't even like Eminem but to call his skill overhyped is laughable.
And on the upside at least Eminem takes care of his kid, so he's actually a good and likable guy until you turn into someone he doesn't like. He just happens to be in the unique position to let the ENTIRE world know when he doesn't like someone.
Every single person that has started a little "diss" war with Eminem has lost anyway, the guy is pretty good when it comes to these things. Mariah should stop while she has some dignity left.
On August 01 2009 07:24 Liquid`NonY wrote: BisuBoi they are just dissing each other. I don't see how Mariah gets the high ground by the nature of her diss. Mariah is being stuck up, conceited, arrogant, whatever, and she's so embarrassed about the choices she made that she lies about them. Eminem is probably close to the opposite of that, as he revels in his fuck-ups, as you can hear in his songs, and I'd imagine that he just hates people with Mariah's attitude. Plus, with his roots as a freestyle rapper, he just likes to diss people. It's his art. It's his style. He could be a regular dude in real life, but when he's rapping, he acts a certain way, like an author might write about murderers, or an animator might draw singing bears. Their art doesn't define them. So while the subject matter might be real in this case, it's still given a very stylistic presentation.
And imo it's cool to see artists do things like this. Instead of thinking about the meta of it, just take it for what it is. What if some random guy you knew, or even some tl.netter, decided to make a diss song about an ex who is acting bitchy and fucking with him? It'd be awesomely entertaining. It'd take an asshole to come in and question the guy's motives. Eminem probably has a studio in the basement of his house. With his talent, he can write, produce and record a song like that in one day. Why wouldn't he? It's what he does haha. He certainly doesn't give a fuck about negative publicity -- about the people who think he's fucked up for spending his time on something like that.
Great points Nony. I'll concede to you and Sith's arguments on this one. I can understand your rationale for this being Eminem's art. Life is the best inspiration for material, so I guess that's what he's doing.
For me, I'd be more entertained if Eminem picked on people who could actually fight back. Yeah, this stunt makes for great mass market hype drama, but it's the intellectual equivalent of slapping 5 year olds. And I wish someone with that much public exposure could exercise more wisdom and use his word-smithing to address issues that aren't already in the spotlight. Everyone knows shallow pretty girls do stupid things for the sake of expedience. Mariah Carey's never had any pretensions of being a paragon of virtue. For Eminem to harp on it just doesn't expand my mind.
He's had some good songs in the past. Just wish the songs that got so much play weren't the mindless ones, but that's the market I guess.
On August 01 2009 00:54 reincremate wrote: Even if you don't like Eminem's lyrics, it's undeniable that he's skilled at rhyming. While it's true that anyone can rap, not anyone can rhyme well. It's difficult to come up with multiple syllable rhymes for each line while remaining coherent. A lot of people who hate rap don't realize that.
Some of his rhymes are quite witty too, like "Flavor with no seasoning, this is the sneak preview I'll diss your magazine and still won't get a weak review"
Actually that's a horrible rhyme lol. First of all, it barely if at all makes coherent sense, second of all, it's just plain weak and contrived, and third of all, a fourth grader could rhyme "preview" and "review". AND OMG HE MADE "SNEAK" AND "WEAK" RHYME TOO
True he actually knows how to rap, but his skill is incredibly overhyped.
Try Louis Logic.
This whole "beef" thing between Eminem and Mariah Carey is simply laughable and childish. Does anybody remember 2Pac vs. Biggie? "That's why I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker"
I mean what the fuck do you want from him, words that DON'T rhyme? The entire idea of rapping is the flow of words and the quick metaphors/allusions they make, it's not supposed to be in complete sentences. I can't believe you're going to tell me that his rhymes are worse than that of some underground rapper from New York I've never even heard of.
No, he's really not. Those were weak rhymes. Even Mariah had better ones in her song. Those rhymes belong on a G-money or Master P cd. Rhyming preview and review is really really stale.
On July 31 2009 17:04 BisuBoi wrote: Mariah 1 - 0 Eminem.
At least Mariah's track was worth listening to. Eminem needs to just fade out with his shrill voice and lame schtick. Instead of innovating his style, he's just relying on the same old shockjock gimmick. What's wrong with him? Sers. Everyone knows the pop industry is a joke. But he seems to have his panties permanently in a wad over it. All he ever raps about is how stupid pop chicks are. Big deal! If Eminem is so much better, why's he spending all his time in the gutter fighting with them?
On August 01 2009 08:00 Brett wrote: WAIT WAIT WAIT
Did he just admit to being with her for 6 months and only nailing her ONCE?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
And he thinks he's hanging shit on HER? hahahaha
eh the other way around.
Well, maybe I don't understand this rap shit, given I don't listen to it...
But I'm pretty sure he says that she made him put up with her bullshit for six months and only opened her legs once. I don't know how else to interpret that other than that he was with her for 6 months and they only had sex once? And if that's the case then the fucking joke's on him not her...
I love how there are people on here that actually take time out of their day to learn the name of starcraft players in korea THAT ARE SAYING THE LYRICS OF ONE OF THE BEST LYRICISTS IN THE WORLD ARENT THAT GOOD
edit: I gotta ask, would you ever say these things out loud? The person you are talking to will put a sticky note somewhere in their mind to remind them what a tool you are
On August 01 2009 07:24 Liquid`NonY wrote: BisuBoi they are just dissing each other. I don't see how Mariah gets the high ground by the nature of her diss. Mariah is being stuck up, conceited, arrogant, whatever, and she's so embarrassed about the choices she made that she lies about them. Eminem is probably close to the opposite of that, as he revels in his fuck-ups, as you can hear in his songs, and I'd imagine that he just hates people with Mariah's attitude. Plus, with his roots as a freestyle rapper, he just likes to diss people. It's his art. It's his style. He could be a regular dude in real life, but when he's rapping, he acts a certain way, like an author might write about murderers, or an animator might draw singing bears. Their art doesn't define them. So while the subject matter might be real in this case, it's still given a very stylistic presentation.
And imo it's cool to see artists do things like this. Instead of thinking about the meta of it, just take it for what it is. What if some random guy you knew, or even some tl.netter, decided to make a diss song about an ex who is acting bitchy and fucking with him? It'd be awesomely entertaining. It'd take an asshole to come in and question the guy's motives. Eminem probably has a studio in the basement of his house. With his talent, he can write, produce and record a song like that in one day. Why wouldn't he? It's what he does haha. He certainly doesn't give a fuck about negative publicity -- about the people who think he's fucked up for spending his time on something like that.
Great points Nony. I'll concede to you and Sith's arguments on this one. I can understand your rationale for this being Eminem's art. Life is the best inspiration for material, so I guess that's what he's doing.
For me, I'd be more entertained if Eminem picked on people who could actually fight back. Yeah, this stunt makes for great mass market hype drama, but it's the intellectual equivalent of slapping 5 year olds. And I wish someone with that much public exposure could exercise more wisdom and use his word-smithing to address issues that aren't already in the spotlight. Everyone knows shallow pretty girls do stupid things for the sake of expedience. Mariah Carey's never had any pretensions of being a paragon of virtue. For Eminem to harp on it just doesn't expand my mind.
He's had some good songs in the past. Just wish the songs that got so much play weren't the mindless ones, but that's the market I guess.
Canibus, Ja Rule, and Nelly thought they could hold their own...
But then again the shit with Nelly didn't really last...
On August 01 2009 00:54 reincremate wrote: Even if you don't like Eminem's lyrics, it's undeniable that he's skilled at rhyming. While it's true that anyone can rap, not anyone can rhyme well. It's difficult to come up with multiple syllable rhymes for each line while remaining coherent. A lot of people who hate rap don't realize that.
Some of his rhymes are quite witty too, like "Flavor with no seasoning, this is the sneak preview I'll diss your magazine and still won't get a weak review"
Actually that's a horrible rhyme lol. First of all, it barely if at all makes coherent sense, second of all, it's just plain weak and contrived, and third of all, a fourth grader could rhyme "preview" and "review". AND OMG HE MADE "SNEAK" AND "WEAK" RHYME TOO
True he actually knows how to rap, but his skill is incredibly overhyped.
Try Louis Logic.
This whole "beef" thing between Eminem and Mariah Carey is simply laughable and childish. Does anybody remember 2Pac vs. Biggie? "That's why I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker"
There are more things working for those two lines than you mention: --structurally: they're each made up of a pair of phrases of similar length --consonance: seasoning/magazine to end the first phrases (backed up by reason / season [different definition from seasoning in this line] / freezing) --assonance: this/diss/still
The words used to finish a line (and therefore the rhyme) don't need to be unexpected in order to not be weak or contrived. When talking about a specific subject, like he is with the magazine review process, it's nice to end the line with something that is relevant to that subject rather than some random word. It's predictable, but in a good way. It gets the listeners involved so that they can hear the line in anticipation of it ending with the expected word. When you've got other people on the mic, which often happens when people are freestyling on radio shows or on the stage with their group, everyone can't help but say that last word with the guy. Everyone in the crowd is probably doing the same.
The words aren't incorehent at all. The verse is one of self-description, proclaiming how awesome he is. He's just listing things about himself, coming at all different angles. The first phrase of the first line stands alone. It means he is flavorful as he is. He doesn't need anything added to him, like you'd add seasoning to meat, in order to make him palatable. The rest of it is pretty clear if you know how magazine reviews work. The magazines get pre-release previews of albums so that they can write a review that'll be ready for the release of the album. Eminem is saying he can diss the magazine in the preview he sends them and they'll still say it's great.
And I can't believe you'd bring up 2pac/Biggie. Yeah, 2pac's track was probably the best we'll ever hear, but nobody wants people to fucking die over this shit.
LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
On August 01 2009 08:00 Brett wrote: WAIT WAIT WAIT
Did he just admit to being with her for 6 months and only nailing her ONCE?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
And he thinks he's hanging shit on HER? hahahaha
eh the other way around.
Well, maybe I don't understand this rap shit, given I don't listen to it...
But I'm pretty sure he says that she made him put up with her bullshit for six months and only opened her legs once. I don't know how else to interpret that other than that he was with her for 6 months and they only had sex once? And if that's the case then the fucking joke's on him not her...
put yourself in nick cannons shoes: would you want people to know that you're girlfriend isn't giving it up to you? i dont know if nick gets it/got it faster than eminem did, but the fact that eminem basically made nick cannon look like a fool because it leaves nick cannon with nothing left to say (which people would assume that he is hiding the fact that mariah carey won't open her legs for him either) OR leaves nick cannon to tell everyone he hit it already (in which would disrespect mariah carey) to save his manliness. Would you wanna be in that position? or would you want to be laughing in eminems position while squirming in laughter b/c he is overwith and done with her/owned her lyrically? eminem also protected himself by manning up and telling everyone anything that mariah carey has on him, so she has no comeback really.. leaves mariah in a state of awe/shock. yeah, i dont think you've been in much drama in life huh? lol
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
WOWOWOWOWOW, that is probably the worst come back I have ever herd.
On August 02 2009 01:27 AssuredVacancy wrote: LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
WOWOWOWOWOW, that is probably the worst come back I have ever herd.
On August 02 2009 01:27 AssuredVacancy wrote: LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
WOWOWOWOWOW, that is probably the worst come back I have ever herd.
Yes because challenging a poet to a fight when all you do is workout and have mangasms at your own reflection in the mirror make you super tough. Srsly the weakest link always resorts to "omg ur saying smart mean stuff, I punch you pussyface!" Whenever I read someone switching from verbal argument to physical challenge I lose respect for them, not gain it.
Anywho this is all hilarity in my opinion but I honestly can't care about someone's life whom I don't know personally. I do lean towards liking his song but mainly because Mariah trying the fancy cat high class whore routine has never impressed me. She is an amazing singer and looks good but there is just no substance there.
On August 01 2009 13:55 BisuBoi wrote: No, he's really not. Those were weak rhymes. Even Mariah had better ones in her song. Those rhymes belong on a G-money or Master P cd. Rhyming preview and review is really really stale.
oh c'mon, how can you say this is weak?
Listen, girly. Surely you don’t want me to talk about how I nutted early cos ejaculated early and bus all over your belly, and you almost started hurling and said I was gross, go get a towel you’re stomachs curling.
most fucking hysterical and cringeworthy line in hip hop this decade.
man, em's no big pun or biggie and use analogies or clever rhymes, but can no ever put up a diss as wicked as em. no one looking for aesthetic values when delivering a diss.
Em is awesome. Any of you nerds saying you wouldnt nail mariah in a second are out of your minds. And his lyrical talent and flow is top notch; I love how people just sit in their towers.
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
lol c'mon Nick, gotta be a man first to handle things like a man.
On August 02 2009 01:27 AssuredVacancy wrote: LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
lol c'mon Nick, gotta be a man first to handle things like a man.
The funny thing is he could probably kick Eminem's ass...
On August 02 2009 01:27 AssuredVacancy wrote: LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
lol c'mon Nick, gotta be a man first to handle things like a man.
The funny thing is he could probably kick Eminem's ass...
On August 01 2009 08:00 Brett wrote: WAIT WAIT WAIT
Did he just admit to being with her for 6 months and only nailing her ONCE?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
And he thinks he's hanging shit on HER? hahahaha
eh the other way around.
Well, maybe I don't understand this rap shit, given I don't listen to it...
But I'm pretty sure he says that she made him put up with her bullshit for six months and only opened her legs once. I don't know how else to interpret that other than that he was with her for 6 months and they only had sex once? And if that's the case then the fucking joke's on him not her...
put yourself in nick cannons shoes: would you want people to know that you're girlfriend isn't giving it up to you? i dont know if nick gets it/got it faster than eminem did, but the fact that eminem basically made nick cannon look like a fool because it leaves nick cannon with nothing left to say (which people would assume that he is hiding the fact that mariah carey won't open her legs for him either) OR leaves nick cannon to tell everyone he hit it already (in which would disrespect mariah carey) to save his manliness. Would you wanna be in that position? or would you want to be laughing in eminems position while squirming in laughter b/c he is overwith and done with her/owned her lyrically? eminem also protected himself by manning up and telling everyone anything that mariah carey has on him, so she has no comeback really.. leaves mariah in a state of awe/shock. yeah, i dont think you've been in much drama in life huh? lol
What? It doesn't make Nick Cannon look any dumber than he already does for going out with such a fucking air head. And just because she only slept with Eminem once in 6 months, doesn't mean she isnt fucking Cannon every day. YOU realise that people can be different in different relationships, right??? So no, if I were Cannon, I wouldn't feel the need at all to come out to save my 'manliness'. It says more about Eminem's inability to bed her than anything else.
(Edit: Too bad he's just as stupid as the other two and has come out with this tough guy bullshit. But is anyone really surprised? He's dating Mariah Carey.)
I'm talking about one line in his song,so I really don't know why you're spewing on about lyrically owning her and making dumb comments about whether I've 'been in much drama in life'. Good for Eminem if he wants to play the 'kamikaze' style and lay all his own bullshit on the table in order to get to her, but often when you do that people end up laughing at you more than the person you're trying to hurt.
Why would Mariah or Nick even respond to anything from Eminem anyways?
I mean, Eminem has spent his whole life battling people, creating songs, and bashing celebrities. How could either of them expect to beat him lyrically or on any level? They should have just ignored it, but I it was probably for publicity for their new albums or whatever.
Anyways that new song Warning is pretty good; so at least something decent came out of this lol.
On August 01 2009 08:00 Brett wrote: WAIT WAIT WAIT
Did he just admit to being with her for 6 months and only nailing her ONCE?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
And he thinks he's hanging shit on HER? hahahaha
eh the other way around.
Well, maybe I don't understand this rap shit, given I don't listen to it...
But I'm pretty sure he says that she made him put up with her bullshit for six months and only opened her legs once. I don't know how else to interpret that other than that he was with her for 6 months and they only had sex once? And if that's the case then the fucking joke's on him not her...
put yourself in nick cannons shoes: would you want people to know that you're girlfriend isn't giving it up to you? i dont know if nick gets it/got it faster than eminem did, but the fact that eminem basically made nick cannon look like a fool because it leaves nick cannon with nothing left to say (which people would assume that he is hiding the fact that mariah carey won't open her legs for him either) OR leaves nick cannon to tell everyone he hit it already (in which would disrespect mariah carey) to save his manliness. Would you wanna be in that position? or would you want to be laughing in eminems position while squirming in laughter b/c he is overwith and done with her/owned her lyrically? eminem also protected himself by manning up and telling everyone anything that mariah carey has on him, so she has no comeback really.. leaves mariah in a state of awe/shock. yeah, i dont think you've been in much drama in life huh? lol
What? It doesn't make Nick Cannon look any dumber than he already does for going out with such a fucking air head. And just because she only slept with Eminem once in 6 months, doesn't mean she isnt fucking Cannon every day. YOU realise that people can be different in different relationships, right??? So no, if I were Cannon, I wouldn't feel the need at all to come out to save my 'manliness'. It says more about Eminem's inability to bed her than anything else.
(Edit: Too bad he's just as stupid as the other two and has come out with this tough guy bullshit. But is anyone really surprised? He's dating Mariah Carey.)
I'm talking about one line in his song,so I really don't know why you're spewing on about lyrically owning her and making dumb comments about whether I've 'been in much drama in life'. Good for Eminem if he wants to play the 'kamikaze' style and lay all his own bullshit on the table in order to get to her, but often when you do that people end up laughing at you more than the person you're trying to hurt.
i see everyone laughin at mariah n cannon. it may be OFTEN in most real life cases, but this is eminem.. a legend!
On August 01 2009 08:00 Brett wrote: WAIT WAIT WAIT
Did he just admit to being with her for 6 months and only nailing her ONCE?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
And he thinks he's hanging shit on HER? hahahaha
eh the other way around.
Well, maybe I don't understand this rap shit, given I don't listen to it...
But I'm pretty sure he says that she made him put up with her bullshit for six months and only opened her legs once. I don't know how else to interpret that other than that he was with her for 6 months and they only had sex once? And if that's the case then the fucking joke's on him not her...
put yourself in nick cannons shoes: would you want people to know that you're girlfriend isn't giving it up to you? i dont know if nick gets it/got it faster than eminem did, but the fact that eminem basically made nick cannon look like a fool because it leaves nick cannon with nothing left to say (which people would assume that he is hiding the fact that mariah carey won't open her legs for him either) OR leaves nick cannon to tell everyone he hit it already (in which would disrespect mariah carey) to save his manliness. Would you wanna be in that position? or would you want to be laughing in eminems position while squirming in laughter b/c he is overwith and done with her/owned her lyrically? eminem also protected himself by manning up and telling everyone anything that mariah carey has on him, so she has no comeback really.. leaves mariah in a state of awe/shock. yeah, i dont think you've been in much drama in life huh? lol
What? It doesn't make Nick Cannon look any dumber than he already does for going out with such a fucking air head. And just because she only slept with Eminem once in 6 months, doesn't mean she isnt fucking Cannon every day. YOU realise that people can be different in different relationships, right??? So no, if I were Cannon, I wouldn't feel the need at all to come out to save my 'manliness'. It says more about Eminem's inability to bed her than anything else.
(Edit: Too bad he's just as stupid as the other two and has come out with this tough guy bullshit. But is anyone really surprised? He's dating Mariah Carey.)
I'm talking about one line in his song,so I really don't know why you're spewing on about lyrically owning her and making dumb comments about whether I've 'been in much drama in life'. Good for Eminem if he wants to play the 'kamikaze' style and lay all his own bullshit on the table in order to get to her, but often when you do that people end up laughing at you more than the person you're trying to hurt.
i see everyone laughin at mariah n cannon. it may be OFTEN in most real life cases, but this is eminem.. a legend!
I don't think it's very often that you get laughed at when you lay out anything anyone could diss you on, and then bash the shit out of them. People forget what you did, remember what you said about the other person, and then the other person can't come back with anything, plus everyone already knows what they'd come back with anyway so it's not as shocking or funny anymore.
On August 01 2009 00:54 reincremate wrote: Even if you don't like Eminem's lyrics, it's undeniable that he's skilled at rhyming. While it's true that anyone can rap, not anyone can rhyme well. It's difficult to come up with multiple syllable rhymes for each line while remaining coherent. A lot of people who hate rap don't realize that.
Some of his rhymes are quite witty too, like "Flavor with no seasoning, this is the sneak preview I'll diss your magazine and still won't get a weak review"
Actually that's a horrible rhyme lol. First of all, it barely if at all makes coherent sense, second of all, it's just plain weak and contrived, and third of all, a fourth grader could rhyme "preview" and "review". AND OMG HE MADE "SNEAK" AND "WEAK" RHYME TOO
True he actually knows how to rap, but his skill is incredibly overhyped.
Try Louis Logic.
This whole "beef" thing between Eminem and Mariah Carey is simply laughable and childish.
iirc many people accused Eminem of stealing Logic's style when he first came out. I kind of see it but not on the whole, Logic is much more talented as both a lyricist and at rhyming itself.
That reminds to reccomend Binary Star to hiphop fans.
And yes this is laughable, when do rappers start wars with pop vocalists?
On August 01 2009 00:54 reincremate wrote: Even if you don't like Eminem's lyrics, it's undeniable that he's skilled at rhyming. While it's true that anyone can rap, not anyone can rhyme well. It's difficult to come up with multiple syllable rhymes for each line while remaining coherent. A lot of people who hate rap don't realize that.
Some of his rhymes are quite witty too, like "Flavor with no seasoning, this is the sneak preview I'll diss your magazine and still won't get a weak review"
Actually that's a horrible rhyme lol. First of all, it barely if at all makes coherent sense, second of all, it's just plain weak and contrived, and third of all, a fourth grader could rhyme "preview" and "review". AND OMG HE MADE "SNEAK" AND "WEAK" RHYME TOO
True he actually knows how to rap, but his skill is incredibly overhyped.
Try Louis Logic.
This whole "beef" thing between Eminem and Mariah Carey is simply laughable and childish.
iirc many people accused Eminem of stealing Logic's style when he first came out. I kind of see it but not on the whole, Logic is much more talented as both a lyricist and at rhyming itself.
That reminds to reccomend Binary Star to hiphop fans.
And yes this is laughable, when do rappers start wars with pop vocalists?
I'd say to check out demigodz too. I just found them searching for Louis Logic stuff on a few sites. Pretty sick.
Holy shit, I'm listening to Reality Check by Binary Star, this is one of the best rap songs I've ever heard. The flow is so sick, the beat is smooth, his lyrics are sick. Awesome stuff man. Thanks.
On August 01 2009 00:54 reincremate wrote: Even if you don't like Eminem's lyrics, it's undeniable that he's skilled at rhyming. While it's true that anyone can rap, not anyone can rhyme well. It's difficult to come up with multiple syllable rhymes for each line while remaining coherent. A lot of people who hate rap don't realize that.
Some of his rhymes are quite witty too, like "Flavor with no seasoning, this is the sneak preview I'll diss your magazine and still won't get a weak review"
Actually that's a horrible rhyme lol. First of all, it barely if at all makes coherent sense, second of all, it's just plain weak and contrived, and third of all, a fourth grader could rhyme "preview" and "review". AND OMG HE MADE "SNEAK" AND "WEAK" RHYME TOO
True he actually knows how to rap, but his skill is incredibly overhyped.
Try Louis Logic.
This whole "beef" thing between Eminem and Mariah Carey is simply laughable and childish.
iirc many people accused Eminem of stealing Logic's style when he first came out. I kind of see it but not on the whole, Logic is much more talented as both a lyricist and at rhyming itself.
That reminds to reccomend Binary Star to hiphop fans.
And yes this is laughable, when do rappers start wars with pop vocalists?
I'd say to check out demigodz too. I just found them searching for Louis Logic stuff on a few sites. Pretty sick.
Holy shit, I'm listening to Reality Check by Binary Star, this is one of the best rap songs I've ever heard. The flow is so sick, the beat is smooth, his lyrics are sick. Awesome stuff man. Thanks.
Yep Binary Star is very white friendly. Next check out Murs, you'll love him.
On August 01 2009 00:54 reincremate wrote: Even if you don't like Eminem's lyrics, it's undeniable that he's skilled at rhyming. While it's true that anyone can rap, not anyone can rhyme well. It's difficult to come up with multiple syllable rhymes for each line while remaining coherent. A lot of people who hate rap don't realize that.
Some of his rhymes are quite witty too, like "Flavor with no seasoning, this is the sneak preview I'll diss your magazine and still won't get a weak review"
Actually that's a horrible rhyme lol. First of all, it barely if at all makes coherent sense, second of all, it's just plain weak and contrived, and third of all, a fourth grader could rhyme "preview" and "review". AND OMG HE MADE "SNEAK" AND "WEAK" RHYME TOO
True he actually knows how to rap, but his skill is incredibly overhyped.
Try Louis Logic.
This whole "beef" thing between Eminem and Mariah Carey is simply laughable and childish.
iirc many people accused Eminem of stealing Logic's style when he first came out. I kind of see it but not on the whole, Logic is much more talented as both a lyricist and at rhyming itself.
That reminds to reccomend Binary Star to hiphop fans.
And yes this is laughable, when do rappers start wars with pop vocalists?
I'd say to check out demigodz too. I just found them searching for Louis Logic stuff on a few sites. Pretty sick.
Holy shit, I'm listening to Reality Check by Binary Star, this is one of the best rap songs I've ever heard. The flow is so sick, the beat is smooth, his lyrics are sick. Awesome stuff man. Thanks.
Yep Binary Star is very white friendly. Next check out Murs, you'll love him.
He's alright, not as good as Binary Star, Louis Logic, or Demigodz.
On August 01 2009 00:54 reincremate wrote: Even if you don't like Eminem's lyrics, it's undeniable that he's skilled at rhyming. While it's true that anyone can rap, not anyone can rhyme well. It's difficult to come up with multiple syllable rhymes for each line while remaining coherent. A lot of people who hate rap don't realize that.
Some of his rhymes are quite witty too, like "Flavor with no seasoning, this is the sneak preview I'll diss your magazine and still won't get a weak review"
Actually that's a horrible rhyme lol. First of all, it barely if at all makes coherent sense, second of all, it's just plain weak and contrived, and third of all, a fourth grader could rhyme "preview" and "review". AND OMG HE MADE "SNEAK" AND "WEAK" RHYME TOO
True he actually knows how to rap, but his skill is incredibly overhyped.
Try Louis Logic.
This whole "beef" thing between Eminem and Mariah Carey is simply laughable and childish. Does anybody remember 2Pac vs. Biggie? "That's why I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker"
Eminem isn't the best rapper ever, and that line certainly isn't his best; I just chose a random one since I don't remember many rap lines of any rapper. I wasn't exalting his rhyming skill, I was just saying it's not non-existent like most people who hate Eminem think. Here is a better Eminem line: "plus all the stores ship us platinum Now how the fuck did this metamorphosis happen? From standin' on corners and porches just rappin' " Again, not the sickest rhymes ever, but still fairly impressive IMO.
I checked out Louis Logic--pretty good shit.
Although 2Pac's beef with Biggie is obviously more serious than Eminem's "beefs" with any pop stars, 2Pac is horribly overrated. Even if it's the truth, what's so brilliant mentioning that you "fucked someone's bitch"? Sure, it might be humiliating for Biggie, but it's not at all creative. 2Pac was way worse than Eminem. I downloaded 2Pac's discography a few months ago and didn't hear a single good line. Just his tedious rambling about fake ass bitch niggas and Henessy and westside etc.
On August 03 2009 11:03 reincremate wrote: Although 2Pac's beef with Biggie is obviously more serious than Eminem's "beefs" with any pop stars, 2Pac is horribly overrated. Even if it's the truth, what's so brilliant mentioning that you "fucked someone's bitch"? Sure, it might be humiliating for Biggie, but it's not at all creative. 2Pac was way worse than Eminem. I downloaded 2Pac's discography a few months ago and didn't hear a single good line. Just his tedious rambling about fake ass bitch niggas and Henessy and westside etc.
Yeah, Pac was pretty overrated. And he is dead; enough of the return bullshit.
On August 01 2009 08:00 Brett wrote: WAIT WAIT WAIT
Did he just admit to being with her for 6 months and only nailing her ONCE?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
And he thinks he's hanging shit on HER? hahahaha
eh the other way around.
Well, maybe I don't understand this rap shit, given I don't listen to it...
But I'm pretty sure he says that she made him put up with her bullshit for six months and only opened her legs once. I don't know how else to interpret that other than that he was with her for 6 months and they only had sex once? And if that's the case then the fucking joke's on him not her...
put yourself in nick cannons shoes: would you want people to know that you're girlfriend isn't giving it up to you? i dont know if nick gets it/got it faster than eminem did, but the fact that eminem basically made nick cannon look like a fool because it leaves nick cannon with nothing left to say (which people would assume that he is hiding the fact that mariah carey won't open her legs for him either) OR leaves nick cannon to tell everyone he hit it already (in which would disrespect mariah carey) to save his manliness. Would you wanna be in that position? or would you want to be laughing in eminems position while squirming in laughter b/c he is overwith and done with her/owned her lyrically? eminem also protected himself by manning up and telling everyone anything that mariah carey has on him, so she has no comeback really.. leaves mariah in a state of awe/shock. yeah, i dont think you've been in much drama in life huh? lol
What? It doesn't make Nick Cannon look any dumber than he already does for going out with such a fucking air head. And just because she only slept with Eminem once in 6 months, doesn't mean she isnt fucking Cannon every day. YOU realise that people can be different in different relationships, right??? So no, if I were Cannon, I wouldn't feel the need at all to come out to save my 'manliness'. It says more about Eminem's inability to bed her than anything else.
(Edit: Too bad he's just as stupid as the other two and has come out with this tough guy bullshit. But is anyone really surprised? He's dating Mariah Carey.)
I'm talking about one line in his song,so I really don't know why you're spewing on about lyrically owning her and making dumb comments about whether I've 'been in much drama in life'. Good for Eminem if he wants to play the 'kamikaze' style and lay all his own bullshit on the table in order to get to her, but often when you do that people end up laughing at you more than the person you're trying to hurt.
i see everyone laughin at mariah n cannon. it may be OFTEN in most real life cases, but this is eminem.. a legend!
I don't think it's very often that you get laughed at when you lay out anything anyone could diss you on, and then bash the shit out of them. People forget what you did, remember what you said about the other person, and then the other person can't come back with anything, plus everyone already knows what they'd come back with anyway so it's not as shocking or funny anymore.
On August 03 2009 12:34 clazziquai wrote: Don't get how Eminem > 2Pac.
Clearly you guys don't listen to enough hip-hop.
2Pac is shit. So overrated and one of the worst rappers I've ever heard.
Although I'm a big Eminem fan, I can't deny 2pac is also a good rapper. So, why did you say this?
Ontopic: Eminem is right. He f***ed her and she just denies, that's why he keeps dissing her in "Bagpipes From Baghdad" and "The Warning" ("Superman" and "Puke" before that). Anyways, I like Eminem's style even his voice. I don't understand why people complain so much.
If someone says 2Pac can't rhyme for shit and others reply by saying he can, the onus is on the pro-2Pac people to point out good lines by 2Pac to support their point. If the argument is that he's good solely because of his lyrical content and not his rhyming skill, then I'd like to point out that his social commentary sucks, and if I wanted to hear about the ghetto black man being held down by the white man or other ghetto black men, I'd read up on some Black Nationalist writings or sit in on a sociology lecture.
Yeah, I listened to his entire discography with an open mind and it sucked. Occasionally, he would spit a semi-decent line, but most of the time it was just bleh.
Man, why do people always have to argue about who is better than who. You can always argue about who's more underground or who spits better rhymes but in the end its what it sounds like that matters. You could say Binary Star or KRS-one or K'naan are more underground and more legit or something but I enjoy them just as much as I enjoy Em's stuff. Comparing Em to other rappers doesn't make sense anyways cause his style isn't even similar to most rappers. Just enjoy what sounds good to you and leave it at that, music isn't a competition.
On August 03 2009 23:27 Epicfailguy wrote: I know a lot about 2pac and I still think he's overrated and sucked. Linking a song isnt gonna change that.
You are not feeling it, i dont understand how he "sucked", you are just saying that out of ignorance. If you cant relate to his lyrics in any way you will never understand what it is about. Maybe you shouldnt listen to Pac if you grew up in Norway. He always had sick catchy rhymes, being overrated has nothing to do with his abilities. He wasnt "best ever" but he definitely a legend.
On August 03 2009 22:54 reincremate wrote: If someone says 2Pac can't rhyme for shit and others reply by saying he can, the onus is on the pro-2Pac people to point out good lines by 2Pac to support their point. If the argument is that he's good solely because of his lyrical content and not his rhyming skill, then I'd like to point out that his social commentary sucks, and if I wanted to hear about the ghetto black man being held down by the white man or other ghetto black men, I'd read up on some Black Nationalist writings or sit in on a sociology lecture.
Me Against The World - Tupac
With all this extra stressin The question I wonder is after death, after my last breath When will I finaly get to rest? Through this supression they punish the people that's askin questions And those that possess, steal from the ones without possessions The message I stress: to make ya stop, study your lessons Don't settle for less - even the genius asks questions Be grateful for blessings Don't ever change, keep your essence The power is in the people and politics we address Always do your best, don't let the pressure make you panic And when you get stranded And things don't go the way you planned it Dreamin of riches, in a position of makin a difference Politicians and hypocrites, they don't wanna listen If I'm insane, it's the fame made a brother change It wasn't nuttin like the game It's just me against the world
p.s. People can talk as much as they want about Eminem and Mariah. Both are commercially successful, both are absolute trash as artists. But don't ever talk about Tupac when mentioning those other two. He actually did something. Tupac and Biggie ushered in the era of gangsta rap and did it well enough to get radio play. Everything in the rap game since has been nothing but walking in their footsteps. No artist has yet emerged to take the music in a new direction, with the exception possibly of Kanye West (and to a lesser degree Lupe Fiasco). Kanye's probably the first artist to come out and shake the game up with his white-collar upbringing, non-ghetto image, and more high-brow rhymes.
On August 03 2009 22:54 reincremate wrote: If someone says 2Pac can't rhyme for shit and others reply by saying he can, the onus is on the pro-2Pac people to point out good lines by 2Pac to support their point. If the argument is that he's good solely because of his lyrical content and not his rhyming skill, then I'd like to point out that his social commentary sucks, and if I wanted to hear about the ghetto black man being held down by the white man or other ghetto black men, I'd read up on some Black Nationalist writings or sit in on a sociology lecture.
Me Against The World - Tupac
With all this extra stressin The question I wonder is after death, after my last breath When will I finaly get to rest? Through this supression they punish the people that's askin questions And those that possess, steal from the ones without possessions The message I stress: to make ya stop, study your lessons Don't settle for less - even the genius asks questions Be grateful for blessings Don't ever change, keep your essence The power is in the people and politics we address Always do your best, don't let the pressure make you panic And when you get stranded And things don't go the way you planned it Dreamin of riches, in a position of makin a difference Politicians and hypocrites, they don't wanna listen If I'm insane, it's the fame made a brother change It wasn't nuttin like the game It's just me against the world
p.s. People can talk as much as they want about Eminem and Mariah. Both are commercially successful, both are absolute trash as artists. But don't ever talk about Tupac when mentioning those other two. He actually did something. Tupac and Biggie ushered in the era of gangsta rap and did it well enough to get radio play. Everything in the rap game since has been nothing but walking in their footsteps. No artist has yet emerged to take the music in a new direction, with the exception possibly of Kanye West (and to a lesser degree Lupe Fiasco). Kanye's probably the first artist to come out and shake the game up with his white-collar upbringing, non-ghetto image, and more high-brow rhymes.
And I'm sure this has had a profound effect on your life.
I listen to very few rappers, and Eminem is one of them. Mainly because he's not illiterate and doesn't try to insult my intelligence, he's crazy but he's entertaining so whatever. The rest of them are Norwegian locals.
On August 04 2009 01:15 BisuBoi wrote: People can talk as much as they want about Eminem and Mariah. Both are commercially successful, both are absolute trash as artists.
You sir know nothing about Em. Stop talking bullshits.
Calling Eminem a trash artist is just retarded. His massive success speaks for itself and if you listen to his lyrics it's just crazy. Kayne completly different than anything Eminem would go for so maybe you just like that better ~~
I'll have you taken back to Christ when you sacrifice The way you acting slice when I tear your back with knifes Jacking life's of MC's, now I'm set to launch a plan For blowing up the stage with illegal contraband A stomped your man so unless you want what he got You better set the mic down, I'm steaming like a teapot I'll make the tea hot, people get in my face and ask If I wanna battle, then I chase them in a Jason mask It's an amazing task to battle with success I never gave a fuck, now I give a fuck less And in a slug fest I get physical like physicians Invisible like magicians with mystical mic traditions Wicked wizardry, like a sorcerer and no remorse for you When I torture you throughout the course of my orchestra So feel the force of my spiritual images Slicing up an enemy's appendages till he hemorrhages My skin itches every time a rapper recites And when he's through with his verse, I'm all covered in flea bites You wanna see fights I got a match for you You couldn't flip shit playing in toilets with a spatula
On August 04 2009 01:15 BisuBoi wrote: People can talk as much as they want about Eminem and Mariah. Both are commercially successful, both are absolute trash as artists.
You sir know nothing about Em. Stop talking bullshits.
How can you put Eminem and Mariah in the same boat as artists? I think Eminem is one of the few who is actually very talented and commercially successful.
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
so "adults" deal with their problems by fist fighting? Awesome, im about to have myself a whole lot of less problems in my life, thank you mister Cannon.
Holy crap this reads like youtube comments... Just enjoy music for what it is, damnit. A former battle mc dissing someone, oh gawd SAY IT AIN'T SO. He's great when he's hunting.
rofl. TL.net, the only population with a better than perfect average on all standardized tests and an IQ mean bigger than your usual infinity erupts into pandemonium about eminem vs mariah
On August 04 2009 01:15 BisuBoi wrote: People can talk as much as they want about Eminem and Mariah. Both are commercially successful, both are absolute trash as artists.
You sir know nothing about Em. Stop talking bullshits.
Don't create new accounts just to argue your Eminem fanboyism. Get on your main acct and maybe I'll start talking to you. Till then, I'm flagging you as an obvious troll. Cursing and providing no actual information to back your views doesn't help much either.
On August 04 2009 02:19 MiniRoman wrote: Do you like fishdicks bisuboi?
Calling Eminem a trash artist is just retarded. His massive success speaks for itself and if you listen to his lyrics it's just crazy. Kayne completly different than anything Eminem would go for so maybe you just like that better ~~
I'll have you taken back to Christ when you sacrifice The way you acting slice when I tear your back with knifes Jacking life's of MC's, now I'm set to launch a plan For blowing up the stage with illegal contraband A stomped your man so unless you want what he got You better set the mic down, I'm steaming like a teapot I'll make the tea hot, people get in my face and ask If I wanna battle, then I chase them in a Jason mask It's an amazing task to battle with success I never gave a fuck, now I give a fuck less And in a slug fest I get physical like physicians Invisible like magicians with mystical mic traditions Wicked wizardry, like a sorcerer and no remorse for you When I torture you throughout the course of my orchestra So feel the force of my spiritual images Slicing up an enemy's appendages till he hemorrhages My skin itches every time a rapper recites And when he's through with his verse, I'm all covered in flea bites You wanna see fights I got a match for you You couldn't flip shit playing in toilets with a spatula
He's got mad flow.
What he's got is no content. Your entire quote has nothing in it to disprove Eminem as a conventional and commercial artist. Braggadocio rap has been around since what, mid 80's? There is no innovation, content, or meaning being conveyed here. All he's said given this many lines is "I'm a bad ass. I murder people. You're nothing." That's about as nuanced a message as you'll find in a middle school locker room.
"Mad flow" does not constitute artistry. I'm sure you could rebut my argument that Eminem is a commercial rapper and not worthy of being viewed in the same light as Tupac, but this example is not proving anything. Come back when you find some of Eminem's work that actually brings something to the table of hiphop.
Oh and if massive success speaks for itself, then you'd have to agree that Mariah is 3x the artist that Eminem is. Considering she has 3x the success, if not more.
On August 02 2009 01:27 AssuredVacancy wrote: LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
so "adults" deal with their problems by fist fighting? Awesome, im about to have myself a whole lot of less problems in my life, thank you mister Cannon.
video tape or nothing. i want them pics of this throw down.
On August 02 2009 01:27 AssuredVacancy wrote: LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
so "adults" deal with their problems by fist fighting? Awesome, im about to have myself a whole lot of less problems in my life, thank you mister Cannon.
video tape or nothing. i want them pics of this throw down.
Eminem's only chance would be to leap on Nick and bite his face/eyes/neck like a rabid vampire. Ol' ghosty would get knocked out so bad if he tried to stand toe to toe. His drug weakened, twinkie-fed physique just wouldn't be able to stand the stress of punching back and forth.
On August 04 2009 05:15 Failsafe wrote: rofl. TL.net, the only population with a better than perfect average on all standardized tests and an IQ mean bigger than your usual infinity erupts into pandemonium about eminem vs mariah
Lmfao haha
Really though Mariah is sooo hot it's not even funny. She is like perfect in all ways. Unlike Mary J blidge.
On August 02 2009 01:27 AssuredVacancy wrote: LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
so "adults" deal with their problems by fist fighting? Awesome, im about to have myself a whole lot of less problems in my life, thank you mister Cannon.
video tape or nothing. i want them pics of this throw down.
Eminem's only chance would be to leap on Nick and bite his face/eyes/neck like a rabid vampire. Ol' ghosty would get knocked out so bad if he tried to stand toe to toe. His drug weakened, twinkie-fed physique just wouldn't be able to stand the stress of punching back and forth.
There's a reason Nick's last name is "Cannon"
Comparison:
VERSUS
I disagree, Eminem is like one of those drunk rednecks and they will fight anyone any second any time and where but Nick is more of one of those funny/pussy black guys that can't even talk shit.
On August 02 2009 01:27 AssuredVacancy wrote: LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
so "adults" deal with their problems by fist fighting? Awesome, im about to have myself a whole lot of less problems in my life, thank you mister Cannon.
video tape or nothing. i want them pics of this throw down.
Eminem's only chance would be to leap on Nick and bite his face/eyes/neck like a rabid vampire. Ol' ghosty would get knocked out so bad if he tried to stand toe to toe. His drug weakened, twinkie-fed physique just wouldn't be able to stand the stress of punching back and forth.
There's a reason Nick's last name is "Cannon"
Comparison:
VERSUS
Pretty gay post lol?
All I see is 20+year olds that weigh 150 pounds and probably can't bench their body weight
Would definitely pick eminem
If you're trying to tell us which one you would rather make out with I guess you proved your point
On August 02 2009 01:27 AssuredVacancy wrote: LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
so "adults" deal with their problems by fist fighting? Awesome, im about to have myself a whole lot of less problems in my life, thank you mister Cannon.
video tape or nothing. i want them pics of this throw down.
Eminem's only chance would be to leap on Nick and bite his face/eyes/neck like a rabid vampire. Ol' ghosty would get knocked out so bad if he tried to stand toe to toe. His drug weakened, twinkie-fed physique just wouldn't be able to stand the stress of punching back and forth.
There's a reason Nick's last name is "Cannon"
Comparison:
VERSUS
Pretty gay post lol?
All I see is 20+year olds that weigh 150 pounds and probably can't bench their body weight
Would definitely pick eminem
If you're trying to tell us which one you would rather make out with I guess you proved your point
Can't bench their body weight? Are you sure you looked at Nick Cannon's pecs? Or are you clenching your eyes shut in homophobia? Lol 150 is like something most athletic kids can do in middle school. And 150 lb guy is nothing to sneeze at. You ever been punched by a welter weight? Sers, the e-macho routine is really lame.
And nothing wrong with being gay. So saying it's pretty gay seems like an irrelevant comment. Plus, considering all the Eminem worship here, I think I'm pretty well within the limits of thread homosexuality. Regardless Nick Cannon > Eminem in a fight. And I've shown pics to prove it!
This reminds me of a hours long discussion between me and my brother that started when I claimed Bruce Dickinson (singer of Iron Maiden, one of my fav bands) would completly destroy the shit out of Bono (of U2, he loves that band) in a fight.
Anyways, on topic, Eminem and Mariah sounds like a lousy couple, and both are little bitches for writing songs about it. Never heard of this Nick Cannon. He's a rapper so he can't be that good, but I'm willing to bet he would destroy Eminem in a fight too. I wouldn't mind both dying while doing it anyways, as rap music clearly sucks donkey dick.
actually Em was picked on in his high school years, he used to get beat up badly before he went on a record. Read his biography, he was your typical white nerd who wanted to make it big. If anything calling him the "redneck fighter" type makes no sense whatsoever. I dont care who beat who but get your facts straight at least. bisuboy i wouldnt say "nothing wrong with being gay" after coming out with a speech on gangsta rap, Pac and BIG. This shit isnt cooked in the same pot.
On August 04 2009 08:21 food wrote: actually Em was picked on in his high school years, he used to get beat up badly before he went on a record. Read his biography, he was your typical white nerd who wanted to make it big. If anything calling him the "redneck fighter" type makes no sense whatsoever. I dont care who beat who but get your facts straight at least. bisuboy i wouldnt say "nothing wrong with being gay" after coming out with a speech on gangsta rap, Pac and BIG. This shit isnt cooked in the same pot.
Word.
Oh I also call him a redneck cuz thats how it seems on 8 mile lololol
It is in my pot rofl! It's the weak mind that needs to put the world in boxes. I'm not gay, but neither do I have any problem with being accused of it. Nor do I think gays can't enjoy Biggie and 2pac. In fact, I know gays who think 2pac is hot/like his music.
On August 02 2009 01:27 AssuredVacancy wrote: LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
so "adults" deal with their problems by fist fighting? Awesome, im about to have myself a whole lot of less problems in my life, thank you mister Cannon.
video tape or nothing. i want them pics of this throw down.
Eminem's only chance would be to leap on Nick and bite his face/eyes/neck like a rabid vampire. Ol' ghosty would get knocked out so bad if he tried to stand toe to toe. His drug weakened, twinkie-fed physique just wouldn't be able to stand the stress of punching back and forth.
There's a reason Nick's last name is "Cannon"
Comparison:
VERSUS
Pretty gay post lol?
All I see is 20+year olds that weigh 150 pounds and probably can't bench their body weight
Would definitely pick eminem
If you're trying to tell us which one you would rather make out with I guess you proved your point
Can't bench their body weight? Are you sure you looked at Nick Cannon's pecs? Or are you clenching your eyes shut in homophobia? Lol 150 is like something most athletic kids can do in middle school. And 150 lb guy is nothing to sneeze at. You ever been punched by a welter weight? Sers, the e-macho routine is really lame.
And nothing wrong with being gay. So saying it's pretty gay seems like an irrelevant comment. Plus, considering all the Eminem worship here, I think I'm pretty well within the limits of thread homosexuality. Regardless Nick Cannon > Eminem in a fight. And I've shown pics to prove it!
Hong Man Choi>Fedor, and I showed the pic to prove it! Except we all know that that wasn't the case, and that size and/or definition is not everything in a fight.
It's not everything, but there is a certain threshold that needs to be reached before a smaller man can take on a big guy. Fedor is far from scrawny. He's just not gigantic like Choi.
Eminem, on the other hand, does not look like he has anything near enough to hurt a man. Maybe if he fought a chihuahua he could do some damage.
On August 02 2009 01:27 AssuredVacancy wrote: LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
so "adults" deal with their problems by fist fighting? Awesome, im about to have myself a whole lot of less problems in my life, thank you mister Cannon.
video tape or nothing. i want them pics of this throw down.
Eminem's only chance would be to leap on Nick and bite his face/eyes/neck like a rabid vampire. Ol' ghosty would get knocked out so bad if he tried to stand toe to toe. His drug weakened, twinkie-fed physique just wouldn't be able to stand the stress of punching back and forth.
There's a reason Nick's last name is "Cannon"
Comparison:
VERSUS
Pretty gay post lol?
All I see is 20+year olds that weigh 150 pounds and probably can't bench their body weight
Would definitely pick eminem
If you're trying to tell us which one you would rather make out with I guess you proved your point
Can't bench their body weight? Are you sure you looked at Nick Cannon's pecs? Or are you clenching your eyes shut in homophobia? Lol 150 is like something most athletic kids can do in middle school. And 150 lb guy is nothing to sneeze at. You ever been punched by a welter weight? Sers, the e-macho routine is really lame.
And nothing wrong with being gay. So saying it's pretty gay seems like an irrelevant comment. Plus, considering all the Eminem worship here, I think I'm pretty well within the limits of thread homosexuality. Regardless Nick Cannon > Eminem in a fight. And I've shown pics to prove it!
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being gay, just (I apologize if I came off that way) saying your post sounds like you think Nick Cannon would win in a fight because you find him more attractive.
NO THIS CAN'T BE. This thread went from "mariah vs eminem" to a me saying "tupac sucks" but someone successfully changed it again into a "Nick cannon can beat up Eminem" thread. Wheres all the tupac hate people?
On August 04 2009 14:16 Probe. wrote: NO THIS CAN'T BE. This thread went from "mariah vs eminem" to a me saying "tupac sucks" but someone successfully changed it again into a "Nick cannon can beat up Eminem" thread. Wheres all the tupac hate people?
No one has it, because you're fucking stupid for having it.
On August 04 2009 09:32 mahnini wrote: the stupid in this thread grew exponentially. i have researchers working hard to find the cause, hang in there thread...hang in there...
hahahaha <3
I'd go with Eminem vs Nick since he has experience being ass whooped to death while the latter is only beating his cock on MC.
On August 04 2009 14:16 Probe. wrote: NO THIS CAN'T BE. This thread went from "mariah vs eminem" to a me saying "tupac sucks" but someone successfully changed it again into a "Nick cannon can beat up Eminem" thread. Wheres all the tupac hate people?
No one has it, because you're fucking stupid for having it.
Coming from someone who thinks Eminem can beat up Nick cannon
On August 02 2009 01:27 AssuredVacancy wrote: LOL i am still laughing from Nick Cannon's response to eminem:
Cannon calls Eminem "Slim Lamey" and offers a challenge to him. "Man to man, let's meet up and deal with this like adults," he writes. "This is my invitation to you, whenever and wherever you like sir. So when you come out of your introverted hiding place and ask your bodyguards if you can go out and play by yourself, I'm here Pimp!"
so "adults" deal with their problems by fist fighting? Awesome, im about to have myself a whole lot of less problems in my life, thank you mister Cannon.
video tape or nothing. i want them pics of this throw down.
Eminem's only chance would be to leap on Nick and bite his face/eyes/neck like a rabid vampire. Ol' ghosty would get knocked out so bad if he tried to stand toe to toe. His drug weakened, twinkie-fed physique just wouldn't be able to stand the stress of punching back and forth.
There's a reason Nick's last name is "Cannon"
Comparison:
VERSUS
Check it, I can do it too:
vs
Besides, working out in a gym 6hrs/day doesn't necessarily mean you can fight.
On August 04 2009 14:16 Probe. wrote: NO THIS CAN'T BE. This thread went from "mariah vs eminem" to a me saying "tupac sucks" but someone successfully changed it again into a "Nick cannon can beat up Eminem" thread. Wheres all the tupac hate people?
No one has it, because you're fucking stupid for having it.
Coming from someone who thinks Eminem can beat up Nick cannon
On August 04 2009 14:16 Probe. wrote: NO THIS CAN'T BE. This thread went from "mariah vs eminem" to a me saying "tupac sucks" but someone successfully changed it again into a "Nick cannon can beat up Eminem" thread. Wheres all the tupac hate people?
No one has it, because you're fucking stupid for having it.
Coming from someone who thinks Eminem can beat up Nick cannon
Dude I thought we settled this already, Nick Cannon is the pussy type of black people who just get a lot of girls while Eminem has fucking experience. He grew up and Detroit and isn't afraid to talk about killing people at least ( he never did tho ) unlike Nick, whos some kids-choice award star.
I hate to say it but : Eminem, please get off Mariah's cock, plz?
EPT
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