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shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
July 15 2009 20:18 GMT
#1
So I got the newest issue of the magazine Popular Science (August 2009) and I found a little ad featuring Elky that I thought was pretty interesting. Kind of cool how he mentions Starcraft so much.

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Sorry if this is in the wrong forum section
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
July 15 2009 20:18 GMT
#2
Hadn't cracked my issue yet, I'll have to check it out. Thanks.
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
July 15 2009 20:28 GMT
#3
thanks for sharing :D
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
July 15 2009 20:44 GMT
#4
That's pretty cool. It reminds me of the autobiographical blog Rekrul wrote where he shared some similar thoughts on the similarities between being good at sc and poker.
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
July 15 2009 20:45 GMT
#5
That's fucking cool! I wonder if it is possible to become a decent poker player without being good at SC because I never hear from noobs making money with poker.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 15 2009 20:47 GMT
#6
cool article
UmmTheHobo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States650 Posts
July 15 2009 20:49 GMT
#7
On July 16 2009 05:45 Schnake wrote:
That's fucking cool! I wonder if it is possible to become a decent poker player without being good at SC because I never hear from noobs making money with poker.


I am pretty sure most professional poker players have never played starcraft
...
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
July 15 2009 20:49 GMT
#8
Elky ftw, I love that guy. I remember when I was out walking with some BW friends and we saw a computer screen with a pokerstars commercial and we were like elky yeah :D
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
July 15 2009 20:51 GMT
#9
i saw a poker video today of ActionJeff and ElkY was on one of his SnGs :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
July 15 2009 20:51 GMT
#10
I have a great experiment. Take successful poker pros who are not gamers and try to teach them sc to see if they will naturally have a certain talent for sc.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
July 15 2009 20:54 GMT
#11
Cool article.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
JohnnyCash
Profile Joined February 2006
France244 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-15 21:03:25
July 15 2009 21:01 GMT
#12
Do you know the Starcraft aka of the people he mentions? (Daut, Liu, khan)
Thanks for the article btw
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11566 Posts
July 15 2009 21:03 GMT
#13
nice article
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
July 15 2009 21:03 GMT
#14
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Grospellier
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11598 Posts
July 15 2009 21:09 GMT
#15
On July 16 2009 06:01 JohnnyCash wrote:
Do you know the Starcraft aka of the people he mentions? (Daut, Liu, khan)
Thanks for the article btw


hevadkhan is z7Rain (RainKhan)
Ryan Daut is BigBalls and went to WCG USA Finals in early 2000's
Eric Liu i fail to know an ID
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
frozenclaw
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada410 Posts
July 15 2009 21:10 GMT
#16
Haha, ex-StarCraft pro-gamer begins revolutionary approach to poker training. That's actually pretty cool. Too bad that it's just an advertisement, I imagine a lot of popular science readers will just think it's PokerStars trying to encourage people who think they're smart into gambling their moneys.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
July 15 2009 21:15 GMT
#17
I have this issue! I just never finished it, and I left it at home before I left. I would have been so happy to read this, haha.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
July 15 2009 21:20 GMT
#18
good stuff
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
July 15 2009 21:25 GMT
#19
Dudes, it's not an article. It's an advertisement.

It's just a page PokerStars paid for and put up an Elky interview in. It says "Advertisement" right at the top of the page.
It felt like gravity.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
July 15 2009 21:26 GMT
#20
wow great find. Thanks for sharing this.

It just shows that you can really be good at anything as long as you try. I honestly think he would be good at any game he set his mind to, thankfully for him he picked one of the most rewards (Poker!)
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
gotwater
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States179 Posts
July 15 2009 21:29 GMT
#21
o dang. anyone know if hes still leading up in the WSOP?
Everything counts.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 15 2009 21:39 GMT
#22
On July 16 2009 06:25 Straylight wrote:
Dudes, it's not an article. It's an advertisement.

It's just a page PokerStars paid for and put up an Elky interview in. It says "Advertisement" right at the top of the page.


it's still an article
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 15 2009 21:40 GMT
#23
Awesome. Elky FTW.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
July 15 2009 21:45 GMT
#24
lol @ better pro gamer or poker player question.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
BookTwo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1985 Posts
July 15 2009 21:49 GMT
#25
I watched his carribean tournament win.it was so cool, $2m just like that.
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 15 2009 22:05 GMT
#26
nice stuff, thanks for sharing
You can't fight the feeling.
prOxi.Beater
Profile Joined December 2008
Denmark626 Posts
July 15 2009 22:10 GMT
#27
Really great advertizing, I'll definitely try this Starcraft thing out. Thanks Popular Science!
Nobody beats the Beater
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
July 15 2009 22:30 GMT
#28
that's pretty neat, thanks for sharing this. Maybe Nada will be a poker king someday.
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 15 2009 22:35 GMT
#29
On July 16 2009 07:30 Trezeguet23 wrote:
that's pretty neat, thanks for sharing this. Maybe Nada will be a poker king someday.


no, idra

and he'll never fold
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 15 2009 22:50 GMT
#30
On July 16 2009 05:51 Jonoman92 wrote:
I have a great experiment. Take successful poker pros who are not gamers and try to teach them sc to see if they will naturally have a certain talent for sc.


That would be cool to see if they can get really good, i think they would be able to since they are good at adapting to different situations. Cool article and how the hell was he able to be so damn good at so many games, SC, Age of Empires, WC3 ?!?! wtf i cant even get really good at one of those lol (not that ive tried any except SC and slightly WC3.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
July 15 2009 22:54 GMT
#31
I think the reverse won't happen because 1) There's way more money, fun, and free-living in poker than Starcraft and 2) so much of Starcraft is mechanics as opposed to just straight-up decision making.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
July 15 2009 22:59 GMT
#32
Ahhh good to see Elky acknowledges his roots.
liquorice
Profile Joined August 2008
United States170 Posts
July 15 2009 23:03 GMT
#33
Neat, I saw this yesterday but was too lazy to start a thread.
fuck yeah zerglings!
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
July 15 2009 23:03 GMT
#34
On July 16 2009 06:29 gotwater wrote:
o dang. anyone know if hes still leading up in the WSOP?

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Out in 122nd $40,288
Administrator
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
July 15 2009 23:18 GMT
#35
elky's larger than life
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/blogs/540-elky-poker-and-dazzle
still holds today
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
July 15 2009 23:40 GMT
#36
Nice article. The only thing that irks me is the question:

Q: 'Do you credit your history as a gamer to your success at the poker table?'
A: Absolutely...[...]

The question should be the complete opposite and Elky answers as if it was anyway. His success at poker should be credited to SC not the other way round...

Don't know if Elky misunderstood the question or the editors fudged it on purpose.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
July 15 2009 23:45 GMT
#37
"Starcraft is definitely my expertise"

Yay!
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-15 23:57:05
July 15 2009 23:55 GMT
#38
On July 16 2009 08:40 Elric wrote:
The question should be the complete opposite and Elky answers as if it was anyway. His success at poker should be credited to SC not the other way round...

Don't know if Elky misunderstood the question or the editors fudged it on purpose.

Reading comprehension fail on your part, mostly.

Edit: That's not to say that it isn't a horribly written sentence or anything, but the use of history and success makes it fairly obvious what it's meant to mean.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
July 16 2009 00:06 GMT
#39
One of my friends is really into poker and I was surprised to know that he knew of SC players going on to becoming poker players.

Respect, and thanks for the article
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
July 16 2009 00:11 GMT
#40
Thanks for the link.
It would be interesting to know if hiring a coach, agent, and manager worked out for him and if it actually helped him improve.
Schnake
Profile Joined September 2003
Germany2819 Posts
July 16 2009 00:14 GMT
#41
On July 16 2009 06:39 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2009 06:25 Straylight wrote:
Dudes, it's not an article. It's an advertisement.

It's just a page PokerStars paid for and put up an Elky interview in. It says "Advertisement" right at the top of the page.


it's still an article


Uh, no. An ad is an ad is an ad. An article is not an ad. Therefore, you are wrong.
"Alán Shore" and "August Terran" @ LoL EUW - liquidparty
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
July 16 2009 00:16 GMT
#42
On July 16 2009 07:35 Perguvious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2009 07:30 Trezeguet23 wrote:
that's pretty neat, thanks for sharing this. Maybe Nada will be a poker king someday.


no, idra

and he'll never fold

"fucking skilless noobies, you fucking got lucky"
Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
July 16 2009 00:57 GMT
#43
On July 16 2009 09:14 Schnake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2009 06:39 travis wrote:
On July 16 2009 06:25 Straylight wrote:
Dudes, it's not an article. It's an advertisement.

It's just a page PokerStars paid for and put up an Elky interview in. It says "Advertisement" right at the top of the page.


it's still an article


Uh, no. An ad is an ad is an ad. An article is not an ad. Therefore, you are wrong.


It's an article in an ad. What's so fucking hard to understand?
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-16 02:35:50
July 16 2009 02:35 GMT
#44
Some guy who doesn't play BW asked me just the other day if I knew Elky and Rekrul, apparently he knew them just through following poker and that they started out playing BW.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 16 2009 02:57 GMT
#45
On July 16 2009 05:49 UmmTheHobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2009 05:45 Schnake wrote:
That's fucking cool! I wonder if it is possible to become a decent poker player without being good at SC because I never hear from noobs making money with poker.


I am pretty sure most professional poker players have never played starcraft



Still the connection with Good at SC ---> Good at poker is deff sexy
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
spitball
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia81 Posts
July 16 2009 03:05 GMT
#46
On July 16 2009 09:57 Shade692003 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2009 09:14 Schnake wrote:
On July 16 2009 06:39 travis wrote:
On July 16 2009 06:25 Straylight wrote:
Dudes, it's not an article. It's an advertisement.

It's just a page PokerStars paid for and put up an Elky interview in. It says "Advertisement" right at the top of the page.


it's still an article


Uh, no. An ad is an ad is an ad. An article is not an ad. Therefore, you are wrong.


It's an article in an ad. What's so fucking hard to understand?


I thoroughly enjoyed the above article.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
July 16 2009 03:09 GMT
#47
Great find OP!! Very interesting article, especially after recently re-reading Rekrul's blog about how he got into poker. Thanks for the upload!
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
Simple
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
July 16 2009 03:40 GMT
#48
i should get into poker
better potential of making money than on bw
00Zarathustra
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bolivia419 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-16 04:07:07
July 16 2009 04:06 GMT
#49
Naaah just play BW and when you r out of money go play some poker!! XD
Zarathustra "You can't spell aNal_Rape without Nal_Ra"
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
July 16 2009 04:22 GMT
#50
On July 16 2009 09:16 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2009 07:35 Perguvious wrote:
On July 16 2009 07:30 Trezeguet23 wrote:
that's pretty neat, thanks for sharing this. Maybe Nada will be a poker king someday.


no, idra

and he'll never fold

"fucking skilless noobies, you fucking got lucky"

Honestly, Idra would scare the shit out of me if we were playing poker. I could see him having memorized all of the odds for every situation, not to mention the fear of losing to him and being told how much I suck (aka the truth).
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
July 16 2009 07:47 GMT
#51
On July 16 2009 05:51 Jonoman92 wrote:
I have a great experiment. Take successful poker pros who are not gamers and try to teach them sc to see if they will naturally have a certain talent for sc.

Already been done. It's obvious Idra is just phil helmuth in disguise.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
July 16 2009 08:09 GMT
#52
Awesome
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
July 16 2009 08:25 GMT
#53
On July 16 2009 16:47 sixghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2009 05:51 Jonoman92 wrote:
I have a great experiment. Take successful poker pros who are not gamers and try to teach them sc to see if they will naturally have a certain talent for sc.

Already been done. It's obvious Idra is just phil helmuth in disguise.


hahaha yeha Idra and phil hellmuth do have the same personalities. Imagine someone calling a Idra's raise with Q 10 off-suit and lucking a straight on the turn or river. He would go crazy.
meow
artofmagic
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
United States1951 Posts
July 20 2009 19:17 GMT
#54
That's a weird advertisement..
evolve or die
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 20 2009 19:20 GMT
#55
nice LOTS of sc mentioned here.. odd he didn't refer to rekrul as a fellow sc->poker player though.. REKRUL has a fucking bracelet I mean commoN?
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 20 2009 20:32 GMT
#56
On July 21 2009 04:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nice LOTS of sc mentioned here.. odd he didn't refer to rekrul as a fellow sc->poker player though.. REKRUL has a fucking bracelet I mean commoN?

Yeah, I would think he would of mentioned Rekrul considering the similar lifestyles they both went through.

(Even though Rek's SC progaming days were short lived)
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
July 20 2009 21:07 GMT
#57
On July 16 2009 06:09 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2009 06:01 JohnnyCash wrote:
Do you know the Starcraft aka of the people he mentions? (Daut, Liu, khan)
Thanks for the article btw


hevadkhan is z7Rain (RainKhan)
Ryan Daut is BigBalls and went to WCG USA Finals in early 2000's
Eric Liu i fail to know an ID

Eric Liu played under crack.ns) , American player
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
July 20 2009 21:40 GMT
#58
Awesome. Poker and Starcraft fit so well together!
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 21:54:26
July 20 2009 21:50 GMT
#59
On July 21 2009 04:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nice LOTS of sc mentioned here.. odd he didn't refer to rekrul as a fellow sc->poker player though.. REKRUL has a fucking bracelet I mean commoN?


oh wow I didn't even know he had a bracelet.

Personally I was surprised he didnt mention Ivan Demidov, who is just ridiculously good at poker
But I'm guessing both Demidov and Rekrul aren't sponsored by Pokerstars?
beep boop
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 22:00:50
July 20 2009 22:00 GMT
#60
Is it me or its like every 2nd or 3rd post like poker advertisment?
Forever Vulture.. :(
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7030 Posts
July 20 2009 22:12 GMT
#61
On July 21 2009 06:50 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 04:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nice LOTS of sc mentioned here.. odd he didn't refer to rekrul as a fellow sc->poker player though.. REKRUL has a fucking bracelet I mean commoN?


oh wow I didn't even know he had a bracelet.

Personally I was surprised he didnt mention Ivan Demidov, who is just ridiculously good at poker
But I'm guessing both Demidov and Rekrul aren't sponsored by Pokerstars?

at least rekrul is PS team pro, not sure about demidov but elky probably doesn't know him too well himself from sc/wc3 days.

and lol no demidov is not ridiculously good at poker, obv. he was the best player of the last years november nine but that is not saying much.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 22 2009 22:05 GMT
#62
On July 21 2009 07:12 Puosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2009 06:50 7mk wrote:
On July 21 2009 04:20 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nice LOTS of sc mentioned here.. odd he didn't refer to rekrul as a fellow sc->poker player though.. REKRUL has a fucking bracelet I mean commoN?


oh wow I didn't even know he had a bracelet.

Personally I was surprised he didnt mention Ivan Demidov, who is just ridiculously good at poker
But I'm guessing both Demidov and Rekrul aren't sponsored by Pokerstars?

at least rekrul is PS team pro, not sure about demidov but elky probably doesn't know him too well himself from sc/wc3 days.

and lol no demidov is not ridiculously good at poker, obv. he was the best player of the last years november nine but that is not saying much.


??
Getting 2nd at the WSOP main event and getting 3rd (or was it 2nd) at the WSOPE main event in the same year is fucking ridiculously impressive and something noone else has ever done
beep boop
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
July 23 2009 21:36 GMT
#63
dude is ballin
You are now breathing manually.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 23 2009 22:45 GMT
#64
Elky is so awesome. Thanks for sharing this!
Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
July 23 2009 22:50 GMT
#65
nice article
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