EPT[Guide] How to Read Korean - Page 6
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jimseo85
Korea (South)7 Posts
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jimseo85
Korea (South)7 Posts
http://blog.naver.com/ppobbo84?Redirect=Log&logNo=100061366197 kkkkkk;;; | ||
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2b-Rigtheous
Korea (South)50 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On June 21 2009 11:51 2b-Rigtheous wrote: Awesome guide. Although the subtleties in pronunciation make Korean one of the hardest languages to learn. If you mess up the pronunciation even slightly, no one understands what you're saying. Korean is one of the easiest languages to learn. The subtleties and pronunciations can be learned easily merely through exposure to the language and you can pick it up without even trying. Grammar is simple as fuck. After that just learn some vocab. then all the sudden ur speaking fluently | ||
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
You said 싸, and bah, dah (like, "Ni hen da" in Chinese). Korean consonants are much more breathy. S-haaa. B-haaaa. D-haaaa. The romanizations are fine. The sound clips aren't. When you said Tempest's name, it sounded weird. 빡재영? 빡빡빡. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
edit: i just listened to the mp3 whatisprotoss is right, 박 should be more like 'pak' right? | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
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2b-Rigtheous
Korea (South)50 Posts
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nataziel
Australia1455 Posts
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kaleidoscope
Singapore2887 Posts
On June 21 2009 22:01 nataziel wrote: Korean is very easy, at least compared to japanese, which I've studied for over 5 years (in HS, so not that high a level, but am currently studying it a uni). I've done one semester of korean and I can already hold a conversation, it's great. word order is so loose compared to japanese, particle usage is a lot easier (imo) grammar forms are easy to manipulate... Awesome language if you ever want to pick up another one. Korean and japanese is a little similar in sentence structure.. So i bet it helps you in learning korean =D I really wanna learn (aka speak fluently and good) korean and japanese too! | ||
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Elric
United Kingdom1327 Posts
A: Egotistical douchebags. Nuff said. B: Low intermediates in the language at most. Yeah. 한글 is as easy as it gets alphabet-wise and basic 있어요/ -에 가요/ 왔어요 etc. sentences are easy to manipulate. But beyond that, it gets a lot trickier. C: Korean to some extent. If you are brought up even a little bit in a language, it's so much easier to learn as you have much better natural-feel of what's right and wrong. I know this from learning Chinese. edit: exception for japanese speakers. I believe them when they say it's easy for them, for obvious reasons. | ||
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
On June 21 2009 21:20 alffla wrote: hahaha bbak edit: i just listened to the mp3 whatisprotoss is right, 박 should be more like 'pak' right? No, that's even worse. Bhak. On June 21 2009 21:53 2b-Rigtheous wrote: Rekrul, maybe for you, but not for most of us unfortunately. Not that it should dissuade your studies, but Korean is far from one of the easiest languages to learn. I disagree agree that the grammar is easy. It's confusing for an English speaker to learn subject markers and object markers The grammar is also back to front, which increases the difficulty further. Also, Korean has so many particles and endings that it can easily confuse the listener.Then you have to learn 반말 and 존댓말. (2 politeness levels). It's definitely a great language to learn, but a challenge to be sure. Anyone can get the basics, that's a piece of cake, but attaining real fluency, well that takes time. Good luck fellas. Korean is super easy. Two of my Japanese friends took a class for 3 months in Korea, and came back mostly fluent. They knew how to use the semi-formal tone perfectly. Once you know how to talk politely, it's easy to use the informal tone. Why are people saying that Korean is so hard? It's so easy. I teach my friends how to read anything in Korean within 10 minutes. Seriously, a few months, and fluency is within reach. | ||
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2b-Rigtheous
Korea (South)50 Posts
I personally think people brag about being fluent, but they're nowhere near it. I've seen this many times with foreigners over here. They've claimed they're fluent and my Korean girlfriend is like, "what he said makes absolutely no sense at all..." Not to put people off learning Korean, fluency is definitely attainable, you just got to put in the work and the time. Don't expect to be fluent in 3 months, that's misleading. | ||
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MutaDoom
Canada1163 Posts
On June 21 2009 20:43 Rekrul wrote: Korean is one of the easiest languages to learn. The subtleties and pronunciations can be learned easily merely through exposure to the language and you can pick it up without even trying. Grammar is simple as fuck. After that just learn some vocab. then all the sudden ur speaking fluently I hope I can some day, I've been trying to learn for a while, but I just can't seem to comprehend it. | ||
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WhatisProtoss
Korea (South)2325 Posts
On June 21 2009 23:51 2b-Rigtheous wrote: I strongly disagree that within a few months you can obtain fluency. It's one thing to be able to read (which will only take you a few hours), it's another thing to be fluent. Fluency isn't basic stuff like, where's this? how much is that? How are you today? etc. That stuff is nothing. If someone can answer a difficult question such as: "why do you or don't you believe in God?" Then that's fluency. I highly doubt an English speaker studying Korean for only a few months can get anywhere close to fluency. A few years maybe. Japanese and Korean are very similar, so a Japanese speaker can probably achieve fluency in Korean within a year. Not so for English speakers though. . I personally think people brag about being fluent, but they're nowhere near it. I've seen this many times with foreigners over here. They've claimed they're fluent and my Korean girlfriend is like, "what he said makes absolutely no sense at all..." Not to put people off learning Korean, fluency is definitely attainable, you just got to put in the work and the time. Don't expect to be fluent in 3 months, that's misleading. Hahaha. Perhaps it is your Korean girlfriend who cannot understand.......  Hell, fluency doesn't mean that you have to be able to have philosophical conversation. If that were the case, most Americans aren't fluent at all. Fluency means that you're able to carry a comfortable, everyday conversation. It doesn't mean you have to have a huge vocabulary of difficult words. Every single day, I don't know what something means, so I ask, "What does that mean?" or "Uh, I have no idea." Fluency doesn't mean perfect. Also, Rekrul is the perfect living example of an American who learned Korean. Guillaume Patry is doing just fine in Korea as well. And Rekrul said it. Korean is easy to learn. In the end, it just becomes a practice of picking up more vocabulary words. That's what I do in both Korean and English every single day. "What does that mean?" Then you start using those new words and incorporate them into everyday language. | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On June 21 2009 21:53 2b-Rigtheous wrote: Rekrul, maybe for you, but not for most of us unfortunately. Not that it should dissuade your studies, but Korean is far from one of the easiest languages to learn. I disagree agree that the grammar is easy. It's confusing for an English speaker to learn subject markers and object markers The grammar is also back to front, which increases the difficulty further. Also, Korean has so many particles and endings that it can easily confuse the listener.Then you have to learn 반말 and 존댓말. (2 politeness levels). It's definitely a great language to learn, but a challenge to be sure. Anyone can get the basics, that's a piece of cake, but attaining real fluency, well that takes time. Good luck fellas. no dude...yeah you can say all that...but you can say all that and then some for other languages korean is easy to learn it's not as easy to learn as riding a bike, but it's easier to learn than other languages (still hard obviously) | ||
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
On June 22 2009 21:55 Rekrul wrote: no dude...yeah you can say all that...but you can say all that and then some for other languages korean is easy to learn it's not as easy to learn as riding a bike, but it's easier to learn than other languages (still hard obviously) what a load of bullshit | ||
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
And what whatisprotoss said is correct, Korean kinda leaks with 'hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh' so majority of the stuff is pronounced with a bahhhhhhhhhhhhk, sehhhhhhhhhhhhk, hahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhk etc. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
On June 23 2009 00:20 snowbird wrote: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Language_Learning_Difficulty_for_English_Speakers I wonder if they simply dumped all Slavic languages into group II. There is a considerable curve from Bulgarian to Polish. | ||
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