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jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
May 02 2009 03:51 GMT
#21
firstgen ipod nano, then rockbox that shit
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 02 2009 03:52 GMT
#22
On May 02 2009 10:42 Railxp wrote:

the one i have =D
More Vids on youtube if you care to search.
Excellent internal firmware support + customize forum: http://www.clixhere.net/forums.php

Giant Edit:
First: YAY FOR NO IPOD. Good for you for actually doing research before buying a shitty conformist mp3 player (well shitty might be too harsh). Fucking everyone has one of those these days. I tunes sucks too i have no idea why people like to use that resource hog. Winamp ftw. /fanboyrant

Things you are looking for:
- Decent amount of storage space. 3~4 GB
> Yes the clix2 comes in 2/4/8 GB i believe, i have an 8GB and i keep Advent children on it so i can look at the pretty action scenes every now and then and still have lots of room for my choice selection of music. CHECK.
- Nice design
> hands down what sold me in the first place. The design is incredibly simple and sleek, no instructions needed, just 5 mins with it and you will know how it works inside out. No buttons is a huge plus, and pressing the sides feel waaaay better than the fucking thumbwheel. The hold button is tucked out of the way, and is quite important because if you dont put it on hold you might press the sides of the screen by accident while its in your pocket and that will jump songs. Volume and power off button are also placed on the rim. Feels very natural when i reach in my pocket blind to change volume/power on off. Hold button doesn't lock volume, but thats ok because its really hard to press down the volume buttons by accident. In fact this is a plus for me, i always like to adjust volume esp if someone starts to talk to me. And proportionally speaking, the screen is fucking huge, because....well its essentially all screen + small thin border. CHCHCHFUCKINGCHECK.
- Stable machine that works for at least 2 years
> i've had mine for 1.5 years and going now and its still as good as the first day. The condomy protective case that comes with it adds to the grip and makes it all soft and felt like. I'm also constantly dropping it and so far so good. CHECK.
- Must be able to display other language fonts
> 100% capable, i can read chinese/japanese/korean all on it. But it is based off of the IDV3 (or w/e its called) tag. Which i can change/modify in winamp. CHECK.
- Budget: Anywhere between $100 to $200 dollars.
> The 8GB cost me $170 USD ircc. And that was 1.5 years ago. Prices might have dropped by now and if you are looking for a 2 or 4 GB instead, they should be cheaper still. CHECK.

BONUSES:
- DRAG AND DROP. It comes with some software thingy but i dont use it at all.
- Displaying Album art is awesome =D but configuring it/editing all songs for it is a pain. I would look for an external program to do so but i'm lazy.
- Radio.
- Video + Slideshow (YES deMOTIVATIONAL PICTURES FTW)
- Voice recording
- ENTIRELY CUSTOMIZABLE INTERFACE. This is gold. You can download and import skins for your iriver clix. They can even change color for you depending on the day of the week. I currently have a sketch pad looking arty theme, but the guy in the vid had some nice gfx going.
- Flash games. Nuff said.
- Good fan community support. There are quite a number of people skinning/making flash games/twiddling with the firmware, so it allows for high amounts of customization. I dont really browse the forum anymore, but when i first got it i downloaded a number of stuff useful from there. such as a more efficient video encoder and skins/games ect.
- Forum FAQ is here: http://www.clixhere.net/clix-faqs-guides/941-must-read-faq-list.html
- Battery life lasts me anywhere from 3-6 days of usage. I dont remember the precise number of hours, but i think it lasts longer than an ipod?
- Black. Sleek. Nuff said.
- Bragging rights. (OOOOH ITS SOOOO COOL)

Minor Annoyances:
- You have to charge it from USB chord, and cant play music from the player while you are doing so.
- Sometimes i forget to put player on hold, and accidentally press buttons in the pocket causing it to skip songs.
- Fork out a few extra bucks to buy the protective plastic coating, its worth it. Now i can throw pens in my pocket and not risk scratching it.
- Deciding between UMS/MSC in the settings. I eventually settled with UMS and was happy ever since. (really its not as big a deal as i made it out to be)
- Previously i was a proud owner of a creative MuVo (cheap, durable, best bangforbuck imo). And the one thing i miss about that is that i could pull it out and plug it right into the computer as a flash drive. Now if i want to do that with the clix, i have to bring the cable along. Oh well.

Check out Cnet. Reviews:
http://reviews.cnet.com/best-flash-memory-mp3-players/?tag=rb_content;contentNav

Highly Recommend the iRiver Clix2 (theres a first generation one but why would you want that)

Holy shit, you deserve a cookie.

Personally I just like sticking with my iPod. Conformist? Whatever, it's been working fine for me and has everything I need so why not get one? Just because something is good/popular doesn't make someone a conformist for getting one. After all, if everyone starting getting what you have then I bet you wouldn't consider them conformists . You'd be like "FINALLY YOU REALIZED IT" =]=]

*gives you a cookie*
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
May 02 2009 05:28 GMT
#23
Railxp wow

You DO deserve a cookie

nice dude

I'm working on something right now but I'll get to researching your post right away
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-02 05:31:34
May 02 2009 05:31 GMT
#24
On May 02 2009 12:52 Grobyc wrote:

On May 02 2009 10:42 Railxp wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMSsn-w6WIc
the one i have =D
More Vids on youtube if you care to search.
Excellent internal firmware support + customize forum: http://www.clixhere.net/forums.php

Giant Edit:
First: YAY FOR NO IPOD. Good for you for actually doing research before buying a shitty conformist mp3 player (well shitty might be too harsh). Fucking everyone has one of those these days. I tunes sucks too i have no idea why people like to use that resource hog. Winamp ftw. /fanboyrant

Things you are looking for:
- Decent amount of storage space. 3~4 GB
> Yes the clix2 comes in 2/4/8 GB i believe, i have an 8GB and i keep Advent children on it so i can look at the pretty action scenes every now and then and still have lots of room for my choice selection of music. CHECK.
- Nice design
> hands down what sold me in the first place. The design is incredibly simple and sleek, no instructions needed, just 5 mins with it and you will know how it works inside out. No buttons is a huge plus, and pressing the sides feel waaaay better than the fucking thumbwheel. The hold button is tucked out of the way, and is quite important because if you dont put it on hold you might press the sides of the screen by accident while its in your pocket and that will jump songs. Volume and power off button are also placed on the rim. Feels very natural when i reach in my pocket blind to change volume/power on off. Hold button doesn't lock volume, but thats ok because its really hard to press down the volume buttons by accident. In fact this is a plus for me, i always like to adjust volume esp if someone starts to talk to me. And proportionally speaking, the screen is fucking huge, because....well its essentially all screen + small thin border. CHCHCHFUCKINGCHECK.
- Stable machine that works for at least 2 years
> i've had mine for 1.5 years and going now and its still as good as the first day. The condomy protective case that comes with it adds to the grip and makes it all soft and felt like. I'm also constantly dropping it and so far so good. CHECK.
- Must be able to display other language fonts
> 100% capable, i can read chinese/japanese/korean all on it. But it is based off of the IDV3 (or w/e its called) tag. Which i can change/modify in winamp. CHECK.
- Budget: Anywhere between $100 to $200 dollars.
> The 8GB cost me $170 USD ircc. And that was 1.5 years ago. Prices might have dropped by now and if you are looking for a 2 or 4 GB instead, they should be cheaper still. CHECK.

BONUSES:
- DRAG AND DROP. It comes with some software thingy but i dont use it at all.
- Displaying Album art is awesome =D but configuring it/editing all songs for it is a pain. I would look for an external program to do so but i'm lazy.
- Radio.
- Video + Slideshow (YES deMOTIVATIONAL PICTURES FTW)
- Voice recording
- ENTIRELY CUSTOMIZABLE INTERFACE. This is gold. You can download and import skins for your iriver clix. They can even change color for you depending on the day of the week. I currently have a sketch pad looking arty theme, but the guy in the vid had some nice gfx going.
- Flash games. Nuff said.
- Good fan community support. There are quite a number of people skinning/making flash games/twiddling with the firmware, so it allows for high amounts of customization. I dont really browse the forum anymore, but when i first got it i downloaded a number of stuff useful from there. such as a more efficient video encoder and skins/games ect.
- Forum FAQ is here: http://www.clixhere.net/clix-faqs-guides/941-must-read-faq-list.html
- Battery life lasts me anywhere from 3-6 days of usage. I dont remember the precise number of hours, but i think it lasts longer than an ipod?
- Black. Sleek. Nuff said.
- Bragging rights. (OOOOH ITS SOOOO COOL)

Minor Annoyances:
- You have to charge it from USB chord, and cant play music from the player while you are doing so.
- Sometimes i forget to put player on hold, and accidentally press buttons in the pocket causing it to skip songs.
- Fork out a few extra bucks to buy the protective plastic coating, its worth it. Now i can throw pens in my pocket and not risk scratching it.
- Deciding between UMS/MSC in the settings. I eventually settled with UMS and was happy ever since. (really its not as big a deal as i made it out to be)
- Previously i was a proud owner of a creative MuVo (cheap, durable, best bangforbuck imo). And the one thing i miss about that is that i could pull it out and plug it right into the computer as a flash drive. Now if i want to do that with the clix, i have to bring the cable along. Oh well.

Check out Cnet. Reviews:
http://reviews.cnet.com/best-flash-memory-mp3-players/?tag=rb_content;contentNav

Highly Recommend the iRiver Clix2 (theres a first generation one but why would you want that

Holy shit, you deserve a cookie.

Personally I just like sticking with my iPod. Conformist? Whatever, it's been working fine for me and has everything I need so why not get one? Just because something is good/popular doesn't make someone a conformist for getting one. After all, if everyone starting getting what you have then I bet you wouldn't consider them conformists . You'd be like "FINALLY YOU REALIZED IT" =]=]

*gives you a cookie*

Quoting super large posts makes friends fast right!
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 02 2009 05:42 GMT
#25
On May 02 2009 14:31 IzzyCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2009 12:52 Grobyc wrote:

On May 02 2009 10:42 Railxp wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMSsn-w6WIc
the one i have =D
More Vids on youtube if you care to search.
Excellent internal firmware support + customize forum: http://www.clixhere.net/forums.php

Giant Edit:
First: YAY FOR NO IPOD. Good for you for actually doing research before buying a shitty conformist mp3 player (well shitty might be too harsh). Fucking everyone has one of those these days. I tunes sucks too i have no idea why people like to use that resource hog. Winamp ftw. /fanboyrant

Things you are looking for:
- Decent amount of storage space. 3~4 GB
> Yes the clix2 comes in 2/4/8 GB i believe, i have an 8GB and i keep Advent children on it so i can look at the pretty action scenes every now and then and still have lots of room for my choice selection of music. CHECK.
- Nice design
> hands down what sold me in the first place. The design is incredibly simple and sleek, no instructions needed, just 5 mins with it and you will know how it works inside out. No buttons is a huge plus, and pressing the sides feel waaaay better than the fucking thumbwheel. The hold button is tucked out of the way, and is quite important because if you dont put it on hold you might press the sides of the screen by accident while its in your pocket and that will jump songs. Volume and power off button are also placed on the rim. Feels very natural when i reach in my pocket blind to change volume/power on off. Hold button doesn't lock volume, but thats ok because its really hard to press down the volume buttons by accident. In fact this is a plus for me, i always like to adjust volume esp if someone starts to talk to me. And proportionally speaking, the screen is fucking huge, because....well its essentially all screen + small thin border. CHCHCHFUCKINGCHECK.
- Stable machine that works for at least 2 years
> i've had mine for 1.5 years and going now and its still as good as the first day. The condomy protective case that comes with it adds to the grip and makes it all soft and felt like. I'm also constantly dropping it and so far so good. CHECK.
- Must be able to display other language fonts
> 100% capable, i can read chinese/japanese/korean all on it. But it is based off of the IDV3 (or w/e its called) tag. Which i can change/modify in winamp. CHECK.
- Budget: Anywhere between $100 to $200 dollars.
> The 8GB cost me $170 USD ircc. And that was 1.5 years ago. Prices might have dropped by now and if you are looking for a 2 or 4 GB instead, they should be cheaper still. CHECK.

BONUSES:
- DRAG AND DROP. It comes with some software thingy but i dont use it at all.
- Displaying Album art is awesome =D but configuring it/editing all songs for it is a pain. I would look for an external program to do so but i'm lazy.
- Radio.
- Video + Slideshow (YES deMOTIVATIONAL PICTURES FTW)
- Voice recording
- ENTIRELY CUSTOMIZABLE INTERFACE. This is gold. You can download and import skins for your iriver clix. They can even change color for you depending on the day of the week. I currently have a sketch pad looking arty theme, but the guy in the vid had some nice gfx going.
- Flash games. Nuff said.
- Good fan community support. There are quite a number of people skinning/making flash games/twiddling with the firmware, so it allows for high amounts of customization. I dont really browse the forum anymore, but when i first got it i downloaded a number of stuff useful from there. such as a more efficient video encoder and skins/games ect.
- Forum FAQ is here: http://www.clixhere.net/clix-faqs-guides/941-must-read-faq-list.html
- Battery life lasts me anywhere from 3-6 days of usage. I dont remember the precise number of hours, but i think it lasts longer than an ipod?
- Black. Sleek. Nuff said.
- Bragging rights. (OOOOH ITS SOOOO COOL)

Minor Annoyances:
- You have to charge it from USB chord, and cant play music from the player while you are doing so.
- Sometimes i forget to put player on hold, and accidentally press buttons in the pocket causing it to skip songs.
- Fork out a few extra bucks to buy the protective plastic coating, its worth it. Now i can throw pens in my pocket and not risk scratching it.
- Deciding between UMS/MSC in the settings. I eventually settled with UMS and was happy ever since. (really its not as big a deal as i made it out to be)
- Previously i was a proud owner of a creative MuVo (cheap, durable, best bangforbuck imo). And the one thing i miss about that is that i could pull it out and plug it right into the computer as a flash drive. Now if i want to do that with the clix, i have to bring the cable along. Oh well.

Check out Cnet. Reviews:
http://reviews.cnet.com/best-flash-memory-mp3-players/?tag=rb_content;contentNav

Highly Recommend the iRiver Clix2 (theres a first generation one but why would you want that

Holy shit, you deserve a cookie.

Personally I just like sticking with my iPod. Conformist? Whatever, it's been working fine for me and has everything I need so why not get one? Just because something is good/popular doesn't make someone a conformist for getting one. After all, if everyone starting getting what you have then I bet you wouldn't consider them conformists . You'd be like "FINALLY YOU REALIZED IT" =]=]

*gives you a cookie*

Quoting super large posts makes friends fast right!

Of course, it emphasizes the well-earnedness of his cookie
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
May 02 2009 05:44 GMT
#26
The iTouch is amazing, especially the apps you can put on.
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-02 05:56:43
May 02 2009 05:56 GMT
#27
iphone is amazing becuase it can always get an internet connection itouch not so much lol.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
May 02 2009 06:02 GMT
#28
tbh I would just get an itouch. If you add a bit moar money, you can buy a 16gb itouch. They last a long time if you treat it nicely(not stepping on screen or anything)
TimmyMac
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada499 Posts
May 02 2009 06:09 GMT
#29
On May 02 2009 15:02 Racenilatr wrote:
tbh I would just get an itouch. If you add a bit moar money, you can buy a 16gb itouch. They last a long time if you treat it nicely(not stepping on screen or anything)

Man, the touch is like super expensive, and not that great as a music player. You have your touch in your pocket, playing music, and all is good. What happens when you wanna change the volume or skip songs? With a normal player you just press a button or two. With the touch you gotta go through some slide to unlock shit and fiddle with some touchscreen stuff... forget it.
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
May 02 2009 06:33 GMT
#30
Look for a cowon player...

D2, i7, etc. are all awesome devices. Compact, extremely long battery life, support a huge number of formats (inc. flac + ogg), and have good sound quality.
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
May 02 2009 07:14 GMT
#31
YAY COOOKIEEEE!! =D=D=D *get!* omnomnomnom
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

~\(。◕‿‿◕。)/~,,,,,,,,>
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
May 02 2009 07:31 GMT
#32
On May 02 2009 11:36 Blind wrote:
Check out the head-fi.org forum for more info. The people there know tons about this stuff. A few days ago, I was in the same boat you're in and eventually picked the Sony Walkman S639.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Here's a direct link to their portable music/video player subforum:
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f15/


Edit:
The three most popular brands at head-fi seem to be Sansa, Cowon, and Sony (besides Apple iPods). The following models all supposedly have very good sound quality.

For Sansa, you have two options: Clip or Fuze. They're known for having great sound quality yet being very inexpensive.
Sansa Fuze comes in 2 gb, 4gb, and 8gb.
Sansa Clip comes in 2 gb and 4 gb.

Cowon options are the D2 or iAudio 7. These are more expensive than the Sansa ones.
Cowon D2 comes in 4gb, 8gb, and 16 gb. It has a touch screen that takes up most of the player. *Warning: it's actually a lot smaller than it looks in the picture in the link. Scroll down the page and find the dimensions.
Cowon iAudio 7 doesn't have the big screen the D2 has. It's more of a music player.

Sony has a lot of models, so it's hard to cover them all. There's the E, A, and S series. The E series is the cheapest of the three and lack some features the other one has. The latest A series has bluetooth support, while the latest S series has built-in noise canceling. That's the gist of it, but you'll have to look into it to get a better idea.


I don't knwo about Sansa because I've had bad experience with it but Cowon seems interesting and both the small and the bigger one interest me. Its kinda funny how the one dedicated soley for music playing is more expensive than the one with the bigger screen for touch.

I'll definately look into them, thanks
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-02 07:35:25
May 02 2009 07:34 GMT
#33
I have a Sony Walkman (728 i think), its pretty good except for the proprietary cable. (Needed to buy two replacements so far :/ its like $10USD per cable). It plays music ok once you set up a proper eq, but i guess it could be much better. If i had to choose again I'd probably look more at Cowons or Creatives.

edit: instant-startup is fun.
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
May 03 2009 21:44 GMT
#34
I'm thinking about getting one of the Cowons 7 or D+ but whats the main difference between them? And is there any stores that sell them? Because I need to give this gift fast and can't wait for shipping
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
stenole
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Norway870 Posts
May 03 2009 22:02 GMT
#35
I have a 1GB Creative ZEN Stone. It doesn't really fit your specifications, but I think it's great. It's small, lightweight, has decent battery life, music sounds alright coming from it, is practically free. It has no display of any kind though, only a LED to show if it's on, playing or if it's low on battery. And the 1GB is less than what you wanted, so you might not have room for your entire music collection on it. An ipod is probably the last thing I'd buy because of price, weight and higher power usage.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
May 03 2009 22:32 GMT
#36
On May 02 2009 15:09 TimmyMac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2009 15:02 Racenilatr wrote:
tbh I would just get an itouch. If you add a bit moar money, you can buy a 16gb itouch. They last a long time if you treat it nicely(not stepping on screen or anything)

Man, the touch is like super expensive, and not that great as a music player. You have your touch in your pocket, playing music, and all is good. What happens when you wanna change the volume or skip songs? With a normal player you just press a button or two. With the touch you gotta go through some slide to unlock shit and fiddle with some touchscreen stuff... forget it.

you don't have to do that with current gen itouches. The volume wheel is on the outside. Apple was smart and realized that having to unlock the screen every time to adjust the volume was annoying.

And like many others in this thread, I would just save up and get an itouch. I'm an owner of the first-gen itouch and I'm really happy with it.
-It's easy to navigate through songs/albums/playlists.
-It has decent battery-life (if you're just going to listen to music).
-You can add applications/videos/pictures/check email on it. Browsing the web with it is kinda annoying for me because I have fat fingers so whenever I'm trying to click a thread title on the left site of say, TL.net I always end up clicking a link above or below the link I was aiming for.
-the sound quality is pretty decent.
-really slick-looking
-a bad thing is that it's very easy to get it scratched or get the screen smudged (which may or not be a problem for you depending on how ocd you are). This can be solved though if you get a rubber casing for it.
myfriendPlank
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States550 Posts
May 03 2009 22:33 GMT
#37
Just get an iPod, problem solve. Thank you, thank you, I know.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
May 04 2009 01:45 GMT
#38
About the cowons, just do a quick search on google and read some of the results:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cowon i7 vs d2&btnG=Google Search&aq=f&oq=

I personally own the Cowon D2(almost exactly the same as +), and I chose it for a few reasons :

-It has great audio quality. It also has a headphone out AMP built in(which means you won't need to buy an amplifier unless you're really hardcore into music quality), and you can also power high sensitvity IEMs very well.
Some say that the sound is "cold" that is, more analytical. This comes down to personal preference though.

It has LONG battery life. Rated around 50 hours+, depending on format and how you use it. If you listen just a few hours a day, you can go weeks without recharging.

It has compatibility for alot of formats.

It is expandable(It has a SD expansion slot that supports up to 32 gigabyte expansion cards) if you ever feel like you need more storage.

The touch screen is also very easy and comfortable to navigate. I have to admit that the S9 looks really sleek, though :p.

As for other brands, as people mentioned you might want to look into :

Sansa clip/fuze.

Sony S639F.

A site that has some good reviews on Mp3s is www.anythingbutipod.com
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