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My Dad has been working as the head Software Developer for DoubleTwist a new program just open to the public through public beta.
The idea behind double-twist is that its one piece of software that is a kind of itunes but for every device at once. It can run zunes, Ipods, Iphones, psps, and many more, the list is ever expanding.
I personally just downloaded it and its awesome, it scans your Itunes and other such media players and puts all your music, pictures, and videos in one place, were you can easily sync it to whatever device.(It doesn't move them but just uses them from were they are for now)
Also they are coming with an update mid may, that will include features such as dragging youtube videos directly into your youtube section, uploading videos through double twist, and other neat shit.
It currently has a mac and a pc version, both are rather simmilar with a few problems here and there + Show Spoiler +the mac doesn't have a sync button yet and the pc cant drag things around
It is in beta so these problems will be fixed
It works great and is an awesome idea IMO
A little on the company from the site
+ Show Spoiler +
Who We Are
doubleTwist Corporation was founded in Oslo, Norway by Monique Farantzos and Jon Lech Johansen (aka DVD Jon) and is headquartered in San Francisco. We are backed by several prominent venture capital firms and individual investors.
The doubleTwist team is distributed between San Francisco and Tokyo, and consists of people from eight countries, speaking more than seven different languages, from Japanese to Dutch. We collectively own more than 200 gadgets and obsessively test every single one of them with doubleTwist while sending stuff to each other and to our friends and families around the world.
Why we're here
We started doubleTwist because we were disappointed by the quality of software applications offered by the major device manufacturers.
Our vision is simple: to create a unifying media platform that connects consumers with all their media and all their devices, regardless of whether they are online or offline.
We feel that just like you don't use a different browser for every web site you visit (Firefox to read the NY Times, IE to stream Hulu, Chrome to browse YouTube, etc) you shouldn't have to use iTunes for Apple products, Nokia software for Nokia phones, Sony software for Sony products, etc. The typical household today has many such devices and there is a need for a simple and powerful software that connects them.
http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt
Edit: Pm me any feedback and I'll tell my dad, also ask any questions and I'll see what I can do;
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is awesome32274 Posts
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wow cant wait to try this
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Getting your parents to help TL? That's amazing. 
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well his salary doesn't hurt us either =], but ya go ahead and say its for the good of TL, Spread the word on this program, post or pm me if you do or don't like it TY tl <3
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Bill307
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On April 23 2009 17:30 deathgod6 wrote:Getting your parents to help TL? That's amazing.
Wow. Do you live in Backwards Land?
To the OP: TLnet has a seperate place for posts like this: here.
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It's not really an add =[, its a free program that anyone can get, just spreading the news. I guess I shouldn't provide the option for people to give feedback to my dad cause I mean trying to help the community is clearly bad.
Don't see you posting this in people talking about other new products >_>
Edit; also how is this not helping TL Im sure tons of people would like me to post it in general rather than not post it at all
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
Who We Are
doubleTwist Corporation was founded in Oslo, Norway by Monique Farantzos and Jon Lech Johansen (aka DVD Jon) and is headquartered in San Francisco. We are backed by several prominent venture capital firms and individual investors.
Sounds like they have more than enough cash to pay for proper advertising. As I understand it, VC firms talk in millions of $s.
It's nice that you're just trying to help, but in the end it's still an ad for a commercial product.
On April 23 2009 17:46 Space[Fright] wrote:
Don't see you posting this in people talking about other new products >_>
That's 'cause I'm not a mod and I don't read everything.
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On April 23 2009 17:46 Space[Fright] wrote:
Edit; also how is this not helping TL Im sure tons of people would like me to post it in general rather than not post it at all
You could make the same argument for any ad.
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The company might have a lot of money but they didn't ask me to post it, I figured it'd be nice for TL members to see this, also I repeat its free so I don't see how I'm advertising but w/e, unless a mod wants it down I think its for the good of TL to leave it up, it is a sick ass program
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The only interest I would have in this program is so that I can delete itunes and still be able to load music/albums into my ipod. Reason being is that itunes always loads 2-3 other programs no matter what and also lags and is a huge resource hog. Does D.T. address these things?
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On April 23 2009 17:57 CharlieMurphy wrote:
The only interest I would have in this program is so that I can delete itunes and still be able to load music/albums into it. Reason being is that itunes always loads 2-3 other programs no matter what and also lags and is a huge resource hog. Does D.T. address these things?
I'll ask my dad and pm you in the morning or at some point tommorow when hes up, but from my experiences using it, it doesn't lag my comp at all
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Sounds like they have more than enough cash to pay for proper advertising. As I understand it, VC firms talk in millions of $s.
It's nice that you're just trying to help, but in the end it's still an ad for a commercial product.
This is a free program, and usually stuff like this is overlooked at the end of the day by the mods seeing as:
1. The poster really isn't getting anything from posting it here other than the fact his dad is working on it. He isn't directly getting anything out of it. In fact since his dad is working on it it's really more of a benefit to us as he can ask questions.
2. If it does what the poster says it does, it's legitimately useful, we have people posting here all the time asking ____ about iTunes or Winamp or something. I would probably feel different about this if he were advertising a new type of car his dad is working on or something.
3. I think we can tell from the original post it was made in good faith excitement over the fact the posters dad was working on it, not because he want to be a marketing machine. He's been here for about 6 months so this isn't like a "register and post everywhere about this" type of deal.
We have people posting ALL THE TIME to "VOTE FOR ME IN ____ ONLINE CONTEST!!!!" for possible monetary gain. This isn't that much different. I would let it slide imo.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Its a free program. He's helping his parents out sure but it seems like a very useful program. I probably wouldn't have found out about it without this thread and I doubt the ultimate success of it is going to be dramatically altered by a thread in general lol. Lets not overreact please.
~Venture Capitalist Meeting~
BigWig - So how are we going to make millions off of this?...
Space[Fright]'s Dad - hmmm well we could advertise but i imagine a single thread on the popular progaming website teamliquid will be all we need.
BigWig - We don't want it to be obvious though.
Space[Fright]'s Dad - no problem, ill get my son to do it.
BigWig - Excellent work heres a giant raise for the millions we are sure to make from back links HAHAHAHAHAHHAH!
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no chance of source code I suppose? nor a port to an open OS?
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Baa?21243 Posts
What file formats does this support? I can't seem to find a list on the site.
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On April 24 2009 06:09 tarpman wrote:
no chance of source code I suppose? nor a port to an open OS?
I'll check but I doubt about it =[, It is a company despite it being a free program so I doubt they have Open Source but who knows, it was founded by the guy who cracked the Iphone so ill check, again I doubt it however.
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If this thing can handle playlistas, coverart and all other kind of stuff, without FUCKING up my whole music database, then I'm all up for it.!
Does you dad knows if this is going to have CoverArt support, and CoverArt Downloader? A-la-winamp?.
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On April 23 2009 16:51 Space[Fright] wrote:
I personally just downloaded it and its awesome, it scans your computer and puts all your music, pictures, and videos in one place, were you can easily sync it to whatever device.
Hrmm. How would that work? does that mean it would put my soundfiles from random game. example music and whatnot into one folder along with my music?
that sounds like something a virus would do -_-;.
Other then that Im eager to try it thx for posting it. This is a legit post because even though it's an ad because: good ads are basically information about something that you would care to acquire
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sweet i'll try it if it syncs my iPhone correctly 
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If this works better than iTunes then I'm all for it!
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Korea (South)11579 Posts
I have my zune, but my computer got reformated, is there a way to get all my music from my zune onto my computer with this program?
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hmm going to try this out...
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On April 24 2009 07:06 Patriot.dlk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 16:51 Space[Fright] wrote:
I personally just downloaded it and its awesome, it scans your computer and puts all your music, pictures, and videos in one place, were you can easily sync it to whatever device.
Hrmm. How would that work? does that mean it would put my soundfiles from random game. example music and whatnot into one folder along with my music? that sounds like something a virus would do -_-;. Other then that Im eager to try it thx for posting it. This is a legit post because even though it's an ad because: good ads are basically information about something that you would care to acquire
I'm not sure how It works but I believe it looks in certain directory, (maybe just Itunes and other music playing software (I had all mine on Zune so I'm not sure). Ill ask my dad and also an update to everyone who I'd say id get response my dad should be home in 1-8 hours so i'll get it to you at some point tonight
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On April 23 2009 17:57 CharlieMurphy wrote:
The only interest I would have in this program is so that I can delete itunes and still be able to load music/albums into my ipod. Reason being is that itunes always loads 2-3 other programs no matter what and also lags and is a huge resource hog. Does D.T. address these things?
Try Sharepod. It's free, not bloated, and not itunes.
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ya one of the guys who works there isn't a fan of windows I saw the same thing when I did it and asked my dad, he started cracking up and said, "it must have been (someone forget who he said) he HATES windows (not pc's the company windows)"
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Ok I found a bug, well not a bug but a little itch. The Maximize button is the wrong one  They like switched it.
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I'll let em know about it
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Can't wait to try this. I loved using iTunes (Minus importing new stuff manually D=) until there was a memory leak. It got so bad I couldn't play and listen at the same time. So I've been using winamp.
Here goes the DL =)
EDIT: So far it looks like I have a new primary media program until further notice! ^_^
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I'm wondering, when you play a song and opens up in the new playlist thing, can you add songs on it w.o having to make it start the song you're adding?
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On April 24 2009 07:06 Patriot.dlk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 16:51 Space[Fright] wrote:
I personally just downloaded it and its awesome, it scans your computer and puts all your music, pictures, and videos in one place, were you can easily sync it to whatever device.
Hrmm. How would that work? does that mean it would put my soundfiles from random game. example music and whatnot into one folder along with my music?
that sounds like something a virus would do -_-;.Other then that Im eager to try it thx for posting it. This is a legit post because even though it's an ad because: good ads are basically information about something that you would care to acquire
It probably does what other programs, and scans your hard drive and builds a media library from the scan, so you can access all your stuff from the one program, rather than actually shifting all your files to one location.
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On April 24 2009 10:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:
[img]http://i42.tinypic.com/14e2hhy.jpg[img]
rofl...
LOL
Should add something like "go have lunch". =D
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On April 23 2009 16:59 IntoTheWow wrote:
(｡◕‿‿◕｡) ~ thanks!
Is that a poring?
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Response Time!
no chance of source code I suppose? nor a port to an open OS?
Portions of it are open source but for the most part No
The only interest I would have in this program is so that I can delete itunes and still be able to load music/albums into my ipod. Reason being is that itunes always loads 2-3 other programs no matter what and also lags and is a huge resource hog. Does D.T. address these things?
My Dad says that it is not resource hog, but uninstalling itunes is not advised due to the fact that your library is generated through itunes, you don't however have to run it
Hrmm. How would that work? does that mean it would put my soundfiles from random game. example music and whatnot into one folder along with my music?
It apparently draws from specific playlists in windows media player and Itunes, in time they are adding a specific double twist library, they will also most likely add more programs to draw from
If this thing can handle playlistas, coverart and all other kind of stuff, without FUCKING up my whole music database, then I'm all up for it.!
It currently doesn't support cover-art but they are looking into that, it will not however mess up any of your music so if you are willing to live without it for the time being than it should work fine.
I'm wondering, when you play a song and opens up in the new playlist thing, can you add songs on it w.o having to make it start the song you're adding?
Not at the moment (My dad is saying as hes answering this that he should probablly just add it, it'll just take him an hour or so but that won't come to the next release pack if it is added)
To all of these questions, remember again this is a beta, so stay tuned it should have a lot of revamps
Ok I found a bug, well not a bug but a little itch. The Maximize button is the wrong one They like switched it.
My dad says your crazy, but he said he'd check it to be sure =]
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i like your dad.
cool shit. thanks for sharing.
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On April 24 2009 13:26 Space[Fright] wrote:Show nested quote +Ok I found a bug, well not a bug but a little itch. The Maximize button is the wrong one They like switched it. My dad says your crazy, but he said he'd check it to be sure =]
Well I fucked the thing up, but what I meant was that the images. The image for maximize is the one to make the box smaller.
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Well I fucked the thing up, but what I meant was that the images. The image for maximize is the one to make the box smaller
I'll let him know thanks for observation
i like your dad.
cool shit. thanks for sharing.
NP, ya he's pretty cool =]
Feel Free to ask any more Questions TL my dads just waiting around to answer em =]
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Oh fine I'll join the party
(｡◕‿‿◕｡)
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looks interesting, i'm installing it now and trying it out
it didn't ask me where to install ;(
intro screen kinda buggy?
+ Show Spoiler [screenshots] +
looks decent. eats about 100mb for main program though? plus other processes it runs
also doesn't shutdown the devicehelper.exe process on termination
but i was very surprised at how quickly it populated the music/video/pics areas though. (quickly=instant lol)
so that's my little tidbit of help. probably too bulky for my use; heck even itunes is 50mb and i already thought it was a big memory hog
oh yeah i alt +ps'd those screenshots so i guess that little part above the window where you can see tl bars is also considered its window? invisible border or something? just an odd thing i just noticed
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mine bugged out i guess? the music tab is unclickable.
edit: i tried again now and it still the same=p
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Hmm haven't heard of this I'll be sure to let my dad no ASAP prob get back to you at some point tomorrow, seems a little odd cause they haven't really gotten any complaints like this so far (I think). But I'll be sure to let em know thanks for the feedback keep it comin TL =]
Great Feedback like this should hopefully enable it to be a really good end result
Edit: I MIGHT be able to get the tech guy at double twist or my dad to make an account so he can respond more directly but that's just a possibility, and at the same time if it would make it to official and more of an advertisement than a mod can just let me know to not do that
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On April 23 2009 17:54 Bill307 wrote:Show nested quote +Who We Are
doubleTwist Corporation was founded in Oslo, Norway by Monique Farantzos and Jon Lech Johansen (aka DVD Jon) and is headquartered in San Francisco. We are backed by several prominent venture capital firms and individual investors. Sounds like they have more than enough cash to pay for proper advertising. As I understand it, VC firms talk in millions of $s. It's nice that you're just trying to help, but in the end it's still an ad for a commercial product. Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 17:46 Space[Fright] wrote:
Don't see you posting this in people talking about other new products >_> That's 'cause I'm not a mod and I don't read everything. Edit: Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 17:46 Space[Fright] wrote:
Edit; also how is this not helping TL Im sure tons of people would like me to post it in general rather than not post it at all You could make the same argument for any ad.
You're only writing that because his dad is part of the development team for a commercial product.
People post in general all the time about great and nifty new software they run into...there's nothing wrong with this.
This sounds like it meets all the requirements, after all...sounds great, seems nifty.
To OP: thanks for posting...will definitely try this out.
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On April 24 2009 17:40 Space[Fright] wrote:
Hmm haven't heard of this I'll be sure to let my dad no ASAP prob get back to you at some point tomorrow, seems a little odd cause they haven't really gotten any complaints like this so far (I think). But I'll be sure to let em know thanks for the feedback keep it comin TL =]
Great Feedback like this should hopefully enable it to be a really good end result
Edit: I MIGHT be able to get the tech guy at double twist or my dad to make an account so he can respond more directly but that's just a possibility, and at the same time if it would make it to official and more of an advertisement than a mod can just let me know to not do that
I recall now that during the install it said something like "error something, some audio formats might not be supported.
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On April 24 2009 16:36 Patriot.dlk wrote:
mine bugged out i guess? the music tab is unclickable.
edit: i tried again now and it still the same=p
same as this guy
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ok I should be able to get back to you at some point tonight
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On April 24 2009 18:13 Patriot.dlk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2009 17:40 Space[Fright] wrote:
Hmm haven't heard of this I'll be sure to let my dad no ASAP prob get back to you at some point tomorrow, seems a little odd cause they haven't really gotten any complaints like this so far (I think). But I'll be sure to let em know thanks for the feedback keep it comin TL =]
Great Feedback like this should hopefully enable it to be a really good end result
Edit: I MIGHT be able to get the tech guy at double twist or my dad to make an account so he can respond more directly but that's just a possibility, and at the same time if it would make it to official and more of an advertisement than a mod can just let me know to not do that I recall now that during the install it said something like "error something, some audio formats might not be supported.
Yeah that's because some programs already register they capabilities to play some music formats, therefore when dT tries to install his codecs, he gets an error saying they are installed. I had no problem reproducing videos/music in the program though.
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Calgary25980 Posts
On April 24 2009 13:51 Space[Fright] wrote:
Feel Free to ask any more Questions TL my dads just waiting around to answer em =]
I own a 1998 Toyota Camry. Although not the flashiest car, it runs really well. I don't value nice cars that much (not my thing) and they are huge cash sinks. That being said, I fear I'm approaching the time when my car's value is going to take a huge dive as it begins to need some serious maintenance. Should I begin looking to get rid of it now, or push it a little farther?
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On April 25 2009 03:38 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2009 13:51 Space[Fright] wrote:
Feel Free to ask any more Questions TL my dads just waiting around to answer em =] I own a 1998 Toyota Camry. Although not the flashiest car, it runs really well. I don't value nice cars that much (not my thing) and they are huge cash sinks. That being said, I fear I'm approaching the time when my car's value is going to take a huge dive as it begins to need some serious maintenance. Should I begin looking to get rid of it now, or push it a little farther?
Push as much as you can, and save up money for a new one!
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On April 24 2009 16:25 JeeJee wrote:
looks decent. eats about 100mb for main program though?
I think it's because it has a whole bunch of different music/device programs mixed into one.
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On April 24 2009 09:04 CaucasianAsian wrote:
I have my zune, but my computer got reformated, is there a way to get all my music from my zune onto my computer with this program?
Im having the same dilemma, my Zune has a bunch of music on it that isnt on my computer since I formatted it. Possible to transfer it?
SUP btw
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Baa?21243 Posts
On April 24 2009 06:22 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
What file formats does this support? I can't seem to find a list on the site.
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On April 24 2009 10:47 Durak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2009 17:57 CharlieMurphy wrote:
The only interest I would have in this program is so that I can delete itunes and still be able to load music/albums into my ipod. Reason being is that itunes always loads 2-3 other programs no matter what and also lags and is a huge resource hog. Does D.T. address these things?
Try Sharepod. It's free, not bloated, and not itunes.
Looks perfect. Thanks.
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I own a 1998 Toyota Camry. Although not the flashiest car, it runs really well. I don't value nice cars that much (not my thing) and they are huge cash sinks. That being said, I fear I'm approaching the time when my car's value is going to take a huge dive as it begins to need some serious maintenance. Should I begin looking to get rid of it now, or push it a little farther?
Lol
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SOrry for double post I just wanna let everyone know questions should be answered at some point today (Ill edit answer into this)
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is awesome32274 Posts
On April 24 2009 12:51 skindzer wrote:Is that a poring?
:3
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On April 24 2009 09:04 CaucasianAsian wrote:
I have my zune, but my computer got reformated, is there a way to get all my music from my zune onto my computer with this program?
Hey - it's the o/p's dad in person. The short answer is not yet. In the next release you will have the ability to copy from your Zune to your hard disk, but not yet a full reverse sync, so you'll loose any playlists.
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On April 28 2009 14:44 doubletwist wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2009 09:04 CaucasianAsian wrote:
I have my zune, but my computer got reformated, is there a way to get all my music from my zune onto my computer with this program? Hey - it's the o/p's dad in person. The short answer is not yet. In the next release you will have the ability to copy from your Zune to your hard disk, but not yet a full reverse sync, so you'll loose any playlists.
I hope you saw what I meant about the Maximize button being the one to make it smaller :p
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On April 24 2009 11:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I'm wondering, when you play a song and opens up in the new playlist thing, can you add songs on it w.o having to make it start the song you're adding?
So I've been meaning to make this possible but it currently is not ... well, not in any released version. But because I saw this post I decided to just do it. You'll be able to drag new music onto the player without disrupting the currently playing song.
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On April 24 2009 16:25 JeeJee wrote:looks interesting, i'm installing it now and trying it out it didn't ask me where to install ;( intro screen kinda buggy? + Show Spoiler [screenshots] +looks decent. eats about 100mb for main program though? plus other processes it runs also doesn't shutdown the devicehelper.exe process on termination but i was very surprised at how quickly it populated the music/video/pics areas though. (quickly=instant lol) so that's my little tidbit of help. probably too bulky for my use; heck even itunes is 50mb and i already thought it was a big memory hog oh yeah i alt +ps'd those screenshots so i guess that little part above the window where you can see tl bars is also considered its window? invisible border or something? just an odd thing i just noticed
FYI we're fixing the intro screen -- this happens just on XP and when you've tweaked the DPI settings (if not, I'd like to know). The device helper is there to launch the app automatically when you insert a known device. You can turn this off in the preferences dialog.
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On April 30 2009 14:53 doubletwist wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2009 16:25 JeeJee wrote:looks interesting, i'm installing it now and trying it out it didn't ask me where to install ;( intro screen kinda buggy? + Show Spoiler [screenshots] +looks decent. eats about 100mb for main program though? plus other processes it runs also doesn't shutdown the devicehelper.exe process on termination but i was very surprised at how quickly it populated the music/video/pics areas though. (quickly=instant lol) so that's my little tidbit of help. probably too bulky for my use; heck even itunes is 50mb and i already thought it was a big memory hog oh yeah i alt +ps'd those screenshots so i guess that little part above the window where you can see tl bars is also considered its window? invisible border or something? just an odd thing i just noticed FYI we're fixing the intro screen -- this happens just on XP and when you've tweaked the DPI settings (if not, I'd like to know). The device helper is there to launch the app automatically when you insert a known device. You can turn this off in the preferences dialog.
yup XP & DPI tweaks here, good stuff
this thread kinda died, but i encourage others to give this program a shot. it's very good at what it does (admittedly i'm no expert on alternatives) and having devs interact directly with the community is always refreshing
DL it, try it out, let them know what you think!
edit: i was gonna frontpage this on digg but i realized one of my friends already put it up there.. like 2 months ago
OP is late with the news ..! lol
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I've just skimmed the rest of this thread so forgive me if one of the following have already been mentioned:
-Allow user to locate non-iTunes and non-WMP music folders to add to the library =(
-Give user basic controls (random/shuffle, repeat)
-The playlist opens in a separate window; why is that I can't just look at the playlist and not bring up the library as well?
I understand it's a work in the process. These three were just off the top of my head. I'll edit in more when I use it next ^^
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On April 30 2009 15:32 404.Delirium wrote:
I've just skimmed the rest of this thread so forgive me if one of the following have already been mentioned:
-Allow user to locate non-iTunes and non-WMP music folders to add to the library =(
-Give user basic controls (random/shuffle, repeat)
-The playlist opens in a separate window; why is that I can't just look at the playlist and not bring up the library as well?
I understand it's a work in the process. These three were just off the top of my head. I'll edit in more when I use it next ^^
These are all great ideas and we're already starting to design the changes needed for the first and third suggestion. Can't make any promises when they'll be in code and released to the public, but they're high on our list. The random/shuffle, repeat idea is something pretty obvious and somehow slipped through -- I'll be sure to get it on the list to consider (or maybe just slip it in quietly on a weekend).
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