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Beside_kr
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada902 Posts
April 11 2009 06:56 GMT
#81
Well, if you say so, it must be true. I do not live in the United States. I would like to reiterate that your point against it is that society frowns upon that kind of thing but not the separation of church and state. Fair enough.
Cuffs, cuffs, you can't break those cuffs
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
April 11 2009 06:57 GMT
#82
On April 11 2009 15:54 benjammin wrote:
food you are by far the dumbest person on this forum, and that includes superiorwolf + Show Spoiler +
<3 superiorwolf


they absolutely have a right to create a GSA club and absolutely have the right to sue for discrimination

if you think the GSA exists to try and lure straight people into turning gay you are a world class moron


im sure promoting gay lifestyle adds up to luring straight people into gay union
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
April 11 2009 06:57 GMT
#83
On April 11 2009 15:48 keV. wrote:
First of all...

I don't think you people understand what a gay-straight alliance is.

Students create gay-straight alliances for two reasons:

1. If one plans to apply to a liberal college and wants to sweeten their application, they ask to start a gay-straight alliance club that most likely will do nothing because there is no problem of gay abuse or denial of gay rights at their respective schools.

2. Gay students gather to talk about gay rights in life or in school and talk about what can be done to bridge the gap between the straight culture and the gay culture to make for a more pleasurable assimilated relationship. It has NOTHING to do with selling or celebrating gay culture, be it - from gay marriage to we're here we're queer parades.

There is no reason for a school to deny such a club as its intention is to make life better for BOTH parties considered. Stop bickering about something you don't even understand.


Quoting because apparently legibility and information is ignored at times.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
April 11 2009 06:58 GMT
#84
On April 11 2009 15:57 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2009 15:54 benjammin wrote:
food you are by far the dumbest person on this forum, and that includes superiorwolf + Show Spoiler +
<3 superiorwolf


they absolutely have a right to create a GSA club and absolutely have the right to sue for discrimination

if you think the GSA exists to try and lure straight people into turning gay you are a world class moron


im sure promoting gay lifestyle adds up to luring straight people into gay union


slow down and try to write a sentence in english
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
April 11 2009 06:59 GMT
#85
On April 11 2009 15:54 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2009 15:46 ahrara_ wrote:
food: I think this may be relevant to your interests.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014


and hitler was a jew

If Hitler sent me a PM saying happy hannukah, I would believe it.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 11 2009 06:59 GMT
#86
LOL food, you're an idiot. Why do you keep posting in this thread at TL?
✌
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-11 07:03:36
April 11 2009 07:02 GMT
#87
On April 11 2009 15:50 food wrote:
you also not taking into account what kind of society we live in. It is very traditional, especially in the US. An accepted set of morals and values has to influence the situation anyhow. It might be different in Cali, but i am pretty sure majority is not open to the idea of gay unions at school, while studying religion is completely socially accepted. Also we do know that "GSA" will never restrict itself to discussing the rights of homosexuals without promoting gay lifestyle to some extent.


Maybe thats the society you live in, but there are multiple states with laws that make gay marriage legal -_-....you talking for everyone else is really rad too. On top of my school had a GSA that formed my sophomore year, nothing happened, they go together were in the prom parade and crap, and no one cared. So your idea that everyone isn't their own person and has a herd mentality is wrong.
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
April 11 2009 07:05 GMT
#88
On April 11 2009 15:50 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2009 15:32 Beside_kr wrote:
food, your argument isn't taking into account that the school already has a Christian Bible studies group, which you could claim is a religious choice and has nothing to do with school at all. You could say it has a defined purpose: to study the bible. To counter that, a GSA club's purpose could be: discussing homosexual rights or a number of other things.


you also not taking into account what kind of society we live in. It is very traditional, especially in the US. An accepted set of morals and values has to influence the situation anyhow. It might be different in Cali, but i am pretty sure majority is not open to the idea of gay unions at school, while studying religion is completely socially accepted. Also we do know that "GSA" will never restrict itself to discussing the rights of homosexuals without promoting gay lifestyle to some extent.

yes and evolution should be scrapped and replaced with creationism.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
April 11 2009 07:07 GMT
#89
On April 11 2009 15:57 keV. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2009 15:48 keV. wrote:
First of all...

I don't think you people understand what a gay-straight alliance is.

Students create gay-straight alliances for two reasons:

1. If one plans to apply to a liberal college and wants to sweeten their application, they ask to start a gay-straight alliance club that most likely will do nothing because there is no problem of gay abuse or denial of gay rights at their respective schools.

2. Gay students gather to talk about gay rights in life or in school and talk about what can be done to bridge the gap between the straight culture and the gay culture to make for a more pleasurable assimilated relationship. It has NOTHING to do with selling or celebrating gay culture, be it - from gay marriage to we're here we're queer parades.

There is no reason for a school to deny such a club as its intention is to make life better for BOTH parties considered. Stop bickering about something you don't even understand.


Quoting because apparently legibility and information is ignored at times.



this barely relates to reality
majority of people attending these alliances are gay people and they have their own interest in going there
also we didnt talk about gay-straight alliance in particular, something called "gay club" or "gay alliance" came up. One form of this would be GSA, but in any case i dont see a point in officially separating gay and straight "communities" by creating specific gay organizations at schools. My point was, if this isnt brought up, peopel would care less. By talking more about the importance of accepting gay people into "heterosexual community" at particular school you drawing a line between them
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-11 07:20:34
April 11 2009 07:08 GMT
#90
On April 11 2009 16:07 food wrote:
this barely relates to reality
majority of people attending these alliances are gay people and they have their own interest in going there
also we didnt talk about gay-straight alliance in particular, something called "gay club" or "gay alliance" came up. One form of this would be GSA, but in any case i dont see a point in officially separating gay and straight "communities" by creating specific gay organizations at schools. My point was, if this isnt brought up, peopel would care less. By talking more about the importance of accepting gay people into "heterosexual community" at particular school you drawing a line between them


Also...w-t-f. You are contradicting yourself all over, you say we shouldn't be accepting because it separates the life styles, then say we have to separate the life styles so people will care less. Make up your mind.
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Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
April 11 2009 07:12 GMT
#91
how can anyone side with the school on this? School is supposed to be a safe place where anyone, regardless of race, religion, or sexuality should be able to learn. If you drop out because you are getting bullied so bad for whatever reason and their staff is doing nothing to protect you, something has to change at the school..
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-11 07:31:33
April 11 2009 07:13 GMT
#92
I can't even begin to tell you how dumb what you just said is. I'm going to do it anyway because I'm a bit of a masochist.

this barely relates to reality


Yes it relates perfectly. I've attended two high schools one in the RI and one in Florida one was successful the other was just a bunch of us who wanted to go to school in the north east or west coast. We sat around with one gay dude (cool guy) and watched gay bashing documentaries once a month.

majority of people attending these alliances are gay people and they have their own interest in going there


No, more often then not high schools have a very small if any gay population. You should know that. People who join clubs that interest them typically have interests in being there, you make a good point. I'm sure said gays are looking to conquer the heterosexuals of the school.

also we didnt talk about gay-straight alliance in particular, something called "gay club" or "gay alliance" came up.


The OP specifically mentioned a gay-straight alliance. Read.

One form of this would be GSA, but in any case i dont see a point in officially separating gay and straight "communities" by creating specific gay organizations at schools. My point was, if this isnt brought up, peopel would care less. By talking more about the importance of accepting gay people into "heterosexual community" at particular school you drawing a line between them


So any effort to amend the differences between these two cultures will immediately fail? You are a grand idiot. The gay culture is a minority, this is not a battle between rival factions genius.

Thanks for playing. Now stop posting.



"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Kennelie
Profile Joined December 2007
United States2296 Posts
April 11 2009 07:14 GMT
#93
your right. First we need some firearm. Then we create the havoc.
ya had ya shot kid!
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
April 11 2009 07:16 GMT
#94
On April 11 2009 16:05 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2009 15:50 food wrote:
On April 11 2009 15:32 Beside_kr wrote:
food, your argument isn't taking into account that the school already has a Christian Bible studies group, which you could claim is a religious choice and has nothing to do with school at all. You could say it has a defined purpose: to study the bible. To counter that, a GSA club's purpose could be: discussing homosexual rights or a number of other things.


you also not taking into account what kind of society we live in. It is very traditional, especially in the US. An accepted set of morals and values has to influence the situation anyhow. It might be different in Cali, but i am pretty sure majority is not open to the idea of gay unions at school, while studying religion is completely socially accepted. Also we do know that "GSA" will never restrict itself to discussing the rights of homosexuals without promoting gay lifestyle to some extent.

yes and evolution should be scrapped and replaced with creationism.


some said earlier that slavery was socially accepted 150 years ago and i responded that it WAS. This has nothing to do with current state of society, same with your example. Evolution is one of the main concepts of biology nowadays thus socially accepted. Gay unions at schools arent. In 50 years maybe, this does not disprove anything i said.
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Butigroove
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Seychelles2061 Posts
April 11 2009 07:17 GMT
#95
On April 11 2009 16:13 keV. wrote:
I can't even begin to tell you how dumb what you just said is. I'm going to do it anyway because I'm a bit of a masochist.

Show nested quote +
this barely relates to reality


Yes it relates perfectly. I've attended two high schools one in the RI and one in Florida

Show nested quote +
majority of people attending these alliances are gay people and they have their own interest in going there


No, more often then not teens at a highschool have a very small if any gay population. You should know that.

Show nested quote +
also we didnt talk about gay-straight alliance in particular, something called "gay club" or "gay alliance" came up.


The OP specifically mentioned a gay-straight alliance. Read.

Show nested quote +
One form of this would be GSA, but in any case i dont see a point in officially separating gay and straight "communities" by creating specific gay organizations at schools. My point was, if this isnt brought up, peopel would care less. By talking more about the importance of accepting gay people into "heterosexual community" at particular school you drawing a line between them


So any effort to amend the differences between these two cultures will immediately fail. You are a grand idiot.

Thanks for playing. Now stop posting forever.
beach beers buds beezies b-b-b-baaanelings
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
April 11 2009 07:19 GMT
#96
On April 11 2009 16:16 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2009 16:05 Kentor wrote:
On April 11 2009 15:50 food wrote:
On April 11 2009 15:32 Beside_kr wrote:
food, your argument isn't taking into account that the school already has a Christian Bible studies group, which you could claim is a religious choice and has nothing to do with school at all. You could say it has a defined purpose: to study the bible. To counter that, a GSA club's purpose could be: discussing homosexual rights or a number of other things.


you also not taking into account what kind of society we live in. It is very traditional, especially in the US. An accepted set of morals and values has to influence the situation anyhow. It might be different in Cali, but i am pretty sure majority is not open to the idea of gay unions at school, while studying religion is completely socially accepted. Also we do know that "GSA" will never restrict itself to discussing the rights of homosexuals without promoting gay lifestyle to some extent.

yes and evolution should be scrapped and replaced with creationism.


some said earlier that slavery was socially accepted 150 years ago and i responded that it WAS. This has nothing to do with current state of society, same with your example. Evolution is one of the main concepts of biology nowadays thus socially accepted. Gay unions at schools arent. In 50 years maybe, this does not disprove anything i said.

okay explain how it is going to become acceptable in 50 years.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-11 07:34:13
April 11 2009 07:32 GMT
#97
On April 11 2009 16:08 Trowabarton756 wrote:

Also...w-t-f. You are contradicting yourself all over, you say we shouldn't be accepting because it separates the life styles, then say we have to separate the life styles so people will care less. Make up your mind.


i didnt say we have to separate the lifestyles, what are you talking about? I said that bringing this issue up for discussion in court blows it out of proportion thus giving them way more attention then needed. The idea of a gay union will draw a thicker line between gay and straight at schools and not having it would leave people care less. How could you not read this?

On April 11 2009 16:13 keV. wrote:
I can't even begin to tell you how dumb what you just said is. I'm going to do it anyway because I'm a bit of a masochist.

Show nested quote +
this barely relates to reality


Yes it relates perfectly. I've attended two high schools one in the RI and one in Florida

Show nested quote +
majority of people attending these alliances are gay people and they have their own interest in going there


No, more often then not teens at a highschool have a very small if any gay population. You should know that.

Show nested quote +
also we didnt talk about gay-straight alliance in particular, something called "gay club" or "gay alliance" came up.


The OP specifically mentioned a gay-straight alliance. Read.

Show nested quote +
One form of this would be GSA, but in any case i dont see a point in officially separating gay and straight "communities" by creating specific gay organizations at schools. My point was, if this isnt brought up, peopel would care less. By talking more about the importance of accepting gay people into "heterosexual community" at particular school you drawing a line between them


So any effort to amend the differences between these two cultures will immediately fail. You are a grand idiot.

Thanks for playing. Now stop posting.






guy few posts above you posted that mentioned GSA went to the prom or w/e doing their own thing and no one cared. So they were gay people apparently, he doesnt know if anyone cared or not, it was his subjective idea, but he seen the 'ceremony" or w/e. You can pretend you know all about it, i just dont see many straight individuals attending meetings of a gay alliance working things out with gay people. Some would, but not majority of the alliance, yes?
i wasnt arguing with the OP specifically, if you havent noticed. This discussion expanded past the OP few pages ago.
also whats with the immediate fail? any effort to amend differences will immediately fail thus im an idiot. We are talkign about the school you dumb shit. I said AT SCHOOLS SPECIFICALLY BRINGING UP GAY ISSUE IS NOT THE BEST THING TO DO, YOU FAIL TO NOTICE THAT? Isnt that what OP said as well, dean denied due to parents/social approval? Where did i go about it beyond schools? You clearly should start reading yourself and i will surely take advice from a shitty poster who cant even follow the argument
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
April 11 2009 07:34 GMT
#98
Just stop, food. Please stop. It's painful. ;<
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-11 07:38:12
April 11 2009 07:36 GMT
#99
On April 11 2009 16:32 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2009 16:08 Trowabarton756 wrote:

Also...w-t-f. You are contradicting yourself all over, you say we shouldn't be accepting because it separates the life styles, then say we have to separate the life styles so people will care less. Make up your mind.


i didnt say we have to separate the lifestyles, what are you talking about? I said that bringing this issue up for discussion in court blows it out of proportion thus giving them way more attention then needed. The idea of a gay union will draw a thicker line between gay and straight at schools and not having it would leave people care less. How could you not read this?

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2009 16:13 keV. wrote:
I can't even begin to tell you how dumb what you just said is. I'm going to do it anyway because I'm a bit of a masochist.

this barely relates to reality


Yes it relates perfectly. I've attended two high schools one in the RI and one in Florida

majority of people attending these alliances are gay people and they have their own interest in going there


No, more often then not teens at a highschool have a very small if any gay population. You should know that.

also we didnt talk about gay-straight alliance in particular, something called "gay club" or "gay alliance" came up.


The OP specifically mentioned a gay-straight alliance. Read.

One form of this would be GSA, but in any case i dont see a point in officially separating gay and straight "communities" by creating specific gay organizations at schools. My point was, if this isnt brought up, peopel would care less. By talking more about the importance of accepting gay people into "heterosexual community" at particular school you drawing a line between them


So any effort to amend the differences between these two cultures will immediately fail. You are a grand idiot.

Thanks for playing. Now stop posting.






guy few posts above you posted that mentioned GSA went to the prom or w/e doing their own thing and no one cares. So they were gay people apparently, he doesnt know if anyone cared or not, it was his subjective idea, but he seen the 'ceremony" or w/e. You can pretend you know all about it, i just dont see a normal person attending meetings of a gay alliance working things out with gay people. Some would, but not majority of the alliance, yes?
i wasnt arguing with the OP specifically, if you havent noticed. This discussion expanded past the OP few pages ago.
also whats with the immediate fail? any effort to amend differences will immediately fail thus im an idiot. We are talkign about the school you dumb shit. I said AT SCHOOLS SPECIFICALLY BRINGING UP GAY ISSUE IS NOT THE BEST THING TO DO, YOU FAIL TO NOTICE THAT? Isnt that what OP said as well, dean denied due to parents/social approval? Where did i go about it beyond schools? You clearly should start reading yourself and i will surely take advice from a shitty poster who cant even follow the argument


You are the dumbest person on the internet. I'd rather you just be an ignorant bigot posing as an ignorant bigot than an ignorant bigot posing as an intellectual. You clearly cannot comprehend more than one sentence at a time. A comment debate on youtube is more your speed. I'm not going to argue with a retard anymore.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
yellowstatus
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1 Post
April 11 2009 07:36 GMT
#100
On April 11 2009 15:54 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2009 15:46 ahrara_ wrote:
food: I think this may be relevant to your interests.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014


and hitler was a jew


Godwin's law
"As a discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law




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