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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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food
United States1951 Posts
On April 11 2009 18:37 Jayme wrote: You are kidding right? .... I am actually speechless. well this here was sarcasm | ||
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food
United States1951 Posts
On April 11 2009 17:42 ShaperofDreams wrote: food you think that slavery was abolished because "the traditional people died off"? social problems get fixed when people wake up and say "wtf this shit is messed up, unfair...blah blah blah". and this case is an example of that. stop embarrassing yourself and stop posting. i dumbed it down, but primitively - yes. people dont wake up saying that shit is messed up, people evolve. You can read about evolution online just like i read about gay unions in UK T_T | ||
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fight_or_flight
United States3988 Posts
However, if anything, the school should be sued for allowing bullying, if it truly did occur. I think they should be able to block a gay-strait alliance. Kids at school need to be focused on homework, not sexual orientation. Besides, there is always the double standard of someone trying to form an alliance that is not a "minority" group. The kid may or may not have a legitimate case, in my mind, depending on the extent of the bullying. The fact that he seems to be "disgusted" because he can't have his own special club makes me think that he expects some sort of special entitlement because he is gay. He also said that he didn't "feel welcome". So it really depends if he was being bullied in a relatively severe way vs if he is blowing things out of proportion. I don't think the fact that he is gay should have any relevance here. No one should be bullied period. The reason for bullying is irrelevant. edit: what I posted above is what the official legal argument should be imo. However, on a practical level, if the judge finds that the teachers and administration were indeed discriminating against him because he was gay (by allowing bullying), then that ups the legal implications. Because instead of being negligent, they were actually part of the bullying. Again, its not because he is gay that the punishment is worse, it is because his gayness helped identify a concerted discriminatory pattern among teachers and staff as opposed to just negligence. | ||
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
On April 11 2009 18:55 fight_or_flight wrote: thread was tl;dr However, if anything, the school should be sued for allowing bullying, if it truly did occur. I think they should be able to block a gay-strait alliance. Kids at school need to be focused on homework, not sexual orientation. Besides, there is always the double standard of someone trying to form an alliance that is not a "minority" group. The kid may or may not have a legitimate case, in my mind, depending on the extent of the bullying. The fact that he seems to be "disgusted" because he can't have his own special club makes me think that he expects some sort of special entitlement because he is gay. He also said that he didn't "feel welcome". So it really depends if he was being bullied in a relatively severe way vs if he is blowing things out of proportion. I don't think the fact that he is gay should have any relevance here. No one should be bullied period. The reason for bullying is irrelevant. According to the lawsuit, Mr. Kettrick was aware of the harassment but "displayed utter and willful indifference to it." "School district employees were aware of the rampant antigay and sexist harassment on campus but deliberately refused to undertake even the most basic corrective or remedial measures, despite these employees' clear authority and ability to do so," the suit reads. "Instead, staff members at the Indian River High School whose very job it was to monitor and supervise student behavior in the cafeteria frequently joined in on the harassment, ridiculing Charlie with stereotypically effeminate gestures in front of other students and telling Charlie he was 'disgusting' and 'shouldn't be gay.'" According to the suit, Mr. Kettrick's actions were blatantly discriminatory and he showed "callous indifference" when he suggested Mr. Pratt "tone it down" and said his safety could not be guaranteed. It's not just about the denial of forming a GSA, it's how the school handled his situation. Him being gay is relevant because they discriminated him for it, and no one at the school did anything about it. Granted, this may not be how it actually happend, at least not until the legitimacy of the case is proven, or disproven. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7661 Posts
Fuck anybody in the educational system that isn't 100% commited to protecting youth from this type of shit. It is school. How the fuck can you grow into an adult and prepare yourself for a life of any kind while being openly treated like dogshit. If what is described in the op is even 50% true I hope jobs are lost and lives are ruined. argg california is just so much better. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On April 11 2009 18:41 food wrote: Here's the main disagreement - i don't think all gay people are born gay. I can imagine some people are born with certain hormone imbalances or disfunctions, on the other hand they could be affected psychologically while growing up. It is hard to single out what specifically led someone to becoming gay; in my opinion most people chose to be gay rather then were born gay. This debate is ongoing and no way in hell will it be decided here on this forum in this thread. This here is the base of your argument, same as mine you have no idea the pain and effort most gay guys go through to try to be attracted to women. i don't honestly know how you can think this way. Are you trying to tell me that, with enough effort, you can be turned on by the thought of a man slamming his fat hairy cock down your throat repeatedly until he cums inside you? With enough effort can this picture can give you a boner? + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o186/Pikoru/hsmplaid10.jpg) i had to wack off before finishing this post as this picture had me going so freakin' bad. honestly. The only way your way of thinking could make sense to me is if you were bi. To people who are bi, sexuality can be reduced to choice. In that scenario, anyone trying to say "it's not a choice" is wrong by default, cause your experience proves their theory untrue. | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
you have no idea the pain and effort most gay guys go through to try to be attracted to women. LoL, And I was thinking "Hell Yeah his Gay, removed from the competition of woeing hot women.." Thanks for the heads up! | ||
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Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
My only thoughts are: where is Rekrul when you need him? | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
"ok so... 99.99% students here are straight, their parents are 99.99% straight and probably against gays cuz this is the US where most people are christian or some shit and intolerant to anything they don't know IE anything outside hamburgers, rock music and muscle cars. I think it's pretty safe to just shove this homosexual's problems back straight in his face." no mothafucka you just got owned, so eat it. | ||
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
On April 11 2009 17:06 food wrote: usually they dont bother me unless they act gay in front of me, im not ok with that Hahahaha! Don't worry, they can't give you "the gay". | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Judging from the picture and the thread that guy seems to be just like that, "I am gay, so what?" so frankly, he had it coming, this isn't exactly a very tolerant world. I could be mistaken regarding him, I don't know that guy, so this is just an assumption. Bullying and threats against gays will never stop. The most we can do is at least stop this in places like schools, so retarded shit like this doesn't happen in the peaceful place a school should be | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10966 Posts
WTF? You also get angry if 2 heteros hold hands or what? | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
On April 12 2009 01:35 Z-BosoN wrote: I think the correct type of gay is the one nobody knows is gay, except for friends and stuff. The same way that most people don't say "I love making love with fat women in stockings" to people you don't even know, you don't go saying "I am gay" to everyone and act like a faggot. Nobody needs to know that shit, so nothing pisses me off more then gay people making it very clear they are gay because this is a free world with rights and so on. Judging from the picture and the thread that guy seems to be just like that, "I am gay, so what?" so frankly, he had it coming, this isn't exactly a very tolerant world. I could be mistaken regarding him, I don't know that guy, so this is just an assumption. Bullying and threats against gays will never stop. The most we can do is at least stop this in places like schools, so retarded shit like this doesn't happen in the peaceful place a school should be uh.. | ||
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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
On April 12 2009 01:35 Z-BosoN wrote: I think the correct type of gay is the one nobody knows is gay, except for friends and stuff. The same way that most people don't say "I love making love with fat women in stockings" to people you don't even know, you don't go saying "I am gay" to everyone and act like a faggot. Nobody needs to know that shit, so nothing pisses me off more then gay people making it very clear they are gay because this is a free world with rights and so on. Judging from the picture and the thread that guy seems to be just like that, "I am gay, so what?" so frankly, he had it coming, this isn't exactly a very tolerant world. I could be mistaken regarding him, I don't know that guy, so this is just an assumption. Bullying and threats against gays will never stop. The most we can do is at least stop this in places like schools, so retarded shit like this doesn't happen in the peaceful place a school should be I think there should be one of these threads at least once a month, to weed out the bad seeds. New law: heterosexuals arent allowed to act straight, participate in any stereotypically heterosexual activities, or show any attraction for the other sex in public. They shouldn't be able to do this just because this is a free world with rights and so on. "He had it coming"? Are you fucking serious? I can understand you not liking someone who is openly gay, but you believe that he should be spit on and pushed into walls because of it? (just as an fyi for anyone thinking of arguing with him, food was temp banned for two weeks and won't be able to respond) | ||
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Doso
Germany769 Posts
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koreasilver
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
Oh and food, you're an inconsiderate asshole | ||
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XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
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koreasilver
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