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Found this really interesting article..
Blizzard in talks with Microsoft for next Xbox Blizzard's Rob Pardo has confirmed that his company has had talks with Microsoft about the successor to the Xbox 360.
Speaking at the Luminaries Lunch today during the Game Developers Conference in San Francisco, Pardo would only state that Blizzard is actively in discussions with Microsoft, seemingly confirming the development process of new console hardware is under way.
However, other developers at the lunch have not spoken to either Microsoft or Sony about future plans, which has raised concerns that content isn't a priority for format holders as they plan the next-generation of home machines.
"How many designers in the games industry do you think they are rounding up to [talk to], because this is going to make or break them this time around," said Acclaim's David Perry.
"I'm not aware that they are putting a big amount of effort into finding out how to make the games. The people who are actually physically going to make the games are all going to get a surprise," he added.
Warren Spector, boss of Disney's Junction Point Studios and responsible for classic titles such as Deus Ex, said that he believes format holders are too concerned with the wider entertainment market to focus on games.
"I get the impression they're focusing on owning the living room," he said. "One device that lets you watch movies, television and play games and music and all that stuff.
"They're so focused on that that I'm not even sure they're thinking about the games that are going to come out. Which is kind of crazy." he added.
Pardo said that so far there's been a good reason why Blizzard titles such as World of Warcraft haven't appeared on home consoles – the hardware hasn't been specifically designed around some genres.
"There are are so many games like we make at Blizzard that we don't take to consoles because they don't support the input device and you end up with crappy ports. That's why RTS games never do well on consoles," he said.
"If I was them, I'd be sitting around trying to figure out what's a cool input device that supports all types of new kinds of games." I wonder what they'll port to the next Xbox, or what new franchise will launch with it. I just hope another flop doesn't come out of this like the dread StarCraft on the Nintendo 64 (as cool as it was for the first 5 minutes, it sucked). This could be a really smart move on Blizzard's part because they could reach out to a lot of gamers that prefer consoles over PCs for various reasons (don't have to upgrade, don't have to build, easier to use, and such).
Source: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/blizzard-in-talks-with-microsoft-for-next-xbox
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lmao wow on consoles would be even more crazy. i mean. people wouldnt get out of the house.
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Blizzard.. world domination..
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Baltimore, USA22225 Posts
On March 27 2009 15:00 Raithed wrote: lmao wow on consoles would be even more crazy. i mean. people wouldnt get out of the house.
And that'll make things different, how?
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I thought that was Bungie lol
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Blizzard + Microsoft = End of all other corporations. If you threw Apple in there, it would be the end of the world.
On topic: If this happened before WoW came out, I would be nervous. Most of Blizzard's games are RTS's (subtract diablo) and obviously RTS's and consoles are like Titanics and icebergs. But since Blizzard has shown they have been able to make great games that reach out to a wider spectrum of people (ie non-RTSers), I am really digging this idea and I hope it happens.
Edit: Too soon on the titanic comment?
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Diablo on the Xbox would be.. well.. diabolical.
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On March 27 2009 15:05 Spartan wrote: Diablo on the Xbox would be.. well.. diabolical.
This... Or it's the next gen mmo?
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On March 27 2009 15:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2009 15:05 Spartan wrote: Diablo on the Xbox would be.. well.. diabolical. This... Or it's the next gen mmo? Speaking of which, anyone have any guesses on blizzard's new mmo? I've sworn off all mmo's after wasting so much time on WoW but if they make a World of Starcraft, there's no way I can say no.
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Speaking at the Luminaries Lunch at GDC, Pardo elaborated on this collaboration of sorts.
"There are are so many games like we make at Blizzard that we don't take to consoles because they don't support the input device and you end up with crappy ports. That's why RTS games never do well on consoles ... If I was them, I'd be sitting around trying to figure out what's a cool input device that supports all types of new kinds of games." my source.
It seems to me that microsoft has gotten in touch with blizzard to see how they can make consoles more friendly for pc games/RTS.
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On March 27 2009 15:14 AtlaS wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2009 15:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:On March 27 2009 15:05 Spartan wrote: Diablo on the Xbox would be.. well.. diabolical. This... Or it's the next gen mmo? Speaking of which, anyone have any guesses on blizzard's new mmo? I've sworn off all mmo's after wasting so much time on WoW but if they make a World of Starcraft, there's no way I can say no.
They already stated that their new mmo wont be based on warcraft, starcraft or diablo universes and that there will be a new universe created for this new mmo which is totally secret and non gay.
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On March 27 2009 15:21 Tribulation wrote:Show nested quote +Speaking at the Luminaries Lunch at GDC, Pardo elaborated on this collaboration of sorts.
"There are are so many games like we make at Blizzard that we don't take to consoles because they don't support the input device and you end up with crappy ports. That's why RTS games never do well on consoles ... If I was them, I'd be sitting around trying to figure out what's a cool input device that supports all types of new kinds of games." my source.It seems to me that microsoft has gotten in touch with blizzard to see how they can make consoles more friendly for pc games/RTS.
Yea if they have a keyboard added to the console.... but what's the point of that? just get a pc!
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They're working on 2 new games though..
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three!
Starcraft, diablo, and that new mmo >.<
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On March 27 2009 15:21 Tribulation wrote:Show nested quote +Speaking at the Luminaries Lunch at GDC, Pardo elaborated on this collaboration of sorts.
"There are are so many games like we make at Blizzard that we don't take to consoles because they don't support the input device and you end up with crappy ports. That's why RTS games never do well on consoles ... If I was them, I'd be sitting around trying to figure out what's a cool input device that supports all types of new kinds of games." my source.It seems to me that microsoft has gotten in touch with blizzard to see how they can make consoles more friendly for pc games/RTS.
Sounds like a good idea, because console controllers suck for playing a game of any genre atm imo.
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On March 27 2009 15:26 ShoCkeyy wrote: three!
Starcraft, diablo, and that new mmo >.< Oh, sorry. I meant 2 unannounced games.
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On March 27 2009 15:22 stroggos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2009 15:14 AtlaS wrote:On March 27 2009 15:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:On March 27 2009 15:05 Spartan wrote: Diablo on the Xbox would be.. well.. diabolical. This... Or it's the next gen mmo? Speaking of which, anyone have any guesses on blizzard's new mmo? I've sworn off all mmo's after wasting so much time on WoW but if they make a World of Starcraft, there's no way I can say no. They already stated that their new mmo wont be based on warcraft, starcraft or diablo universes and that there will be a new universe created for this new mmo which is totally secret and non gay. i heard a variation of this. I heard it will not be like WoW, as in, the point of the game will not be focused on leveling and then gearing up the toon. where'd you hear that it won't be based on a current blizzard universe?
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On March 27 2009 15:00 Raithed wrote: lmao wow on consoles would be even more crazy. i mean. people wouldnt get out of the house.
they dont get out of the house with wow on pc. if they ported WoW to consoles they wouldnt move within the house. Done with WoW? just switch to the tv and not have to move from the couch.
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United States3824 Posts
Hey don't talk about SC64 like that, that's how I got into this game
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hmm The i feel like the new mmo will be more like halo for some reason...
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I really want to see them tackle on a shooter, mainly a TPS and not a FPS.
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ALL XBOXES SHIP WITH WOW 30 DAY TRIAL PREINSTALLED
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konadora
Singapore66060 Posts
I KNOW
STARCRAFT GHOST?
Highly possible, considering it's a FPS.
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blizz+microsoft=me no longer buying anything blizzard.
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On March 27 2009 15:03 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2009 15:00 Raithed wrote: lmao wow on consoles would be even more crazy. i mean. people wouldnt get out of the house. And that'll make things different, how?
My thoughts exactly
As to blizzard + microsoft console... maybe we could get SC: Ghost online? =(
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On March 27 2009 15:37 Polyphasic wrote: ALL XBOXES SHIP WITH WOW 30 DAY TRIAL PREINSTALLED
So... the new xbox will be out December 24, 2012?
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Netherlands6142 Posts
On March 27 2009 15:27 krazymunky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2009 15:00 Raithed wrote: lmao wow on consoles would be even more crazy. i mean. people wouldnt get out of the house. they dont get out of the house with wow on pc. if they ported WoW to consoles they wouldnt move within the house. Done with WoW? just switch to the tv and not have to move from the couch.
Imagine WoW on handheld... :x
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konadora
Singapore66060 Posts
On March 27 2009 17:13 Pholon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2009 15:27 krazymunky wrote:On March 27 2009 15:00 Raithed wrote: lmao wow on consoles would be even more crazy. i mean. people wouldnt get out of the house. they dont get out of the house with wow on pc. if they ported WoW to consoles they wouldnt move within the house. Done with WoW? just switch to the tv and not have to move from the couch. Imagine WoW on handheld... :x WoW + PSP/Nintendo DS
...or even Game Boy Advanced.
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I'd crap my pants if they revitalized Starcraft: Ghost.
It was going to be the best game ever made. Even better than the game that it took the story from.
Never has such a heinous crime been committed as the one that Blizzard made when they announced they had canceled that game.
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Get their asses back on Starcraft Ghost already. Let their studio do the project, if it sucks blame on microsoft
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Sort of a tangent... but has anybody been playing around with XNA? I'm writing a 2D shooter right now. I had to pay $50/4-months just to run it on the XBOX (while in development!!!). And only other subscribers to the Creator's Club can play my game. It's kinda gay (the bad kind).
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They were talking about some support plugin thing, which would probably mean some sort of keyboard/mouse or something very similar in-order to make RTS's more playable on consoles.
Further news needed for more information.
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Wheres the source for the guys saying that Blizz next mmo wont be in any known blizzard universe?
Pics or its fake.
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On March 27 2009 15:15 Mista wrote: Blizsoft.
Microzard?
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On March 27 2009 20:48 DwmC_Foefen wrote:Microzard?
Sounds like a pokemon.
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Just a thought, what if it's about setting up a console that can connect to battlenet 2.0? diablo3 might not be too bad on a console, I'd still prefer pc though.
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maybe this has something to do with the thread day[9] posted
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On March 27 2009 19:55 D10 wrote: Wheres the source for the guys saying that Blizz next mmo wont be in any known blizzard universe?
Pics or its fake.
A quick google search provides this: Blizzard's "secret project" is confirmed to be a new MMO with a brand new universe, but we won't hear anything about it before a while. source
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The birds are chirping that the new MMO will be in the Diablo setting.
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I doubt they're working on 2 Diablo games at the same time..
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On March 27 2009 17:17 VorcePA wrote:I'd crap my pants if they revitalized Starcraft: Ghost. It was going to be the best game ever made. Even better than the game that it took the story from. Never has such a heinous crime been committed as the one that Blizzard made when they announced they had canceled that game.
No it wasnt going to be that great. There is no way it would have been better than the games in genre that are pretty good. UT1-3, CS, Q3, Halo. etc If it was better than any of those games in any regard than i would be just tottaly shocked.
And blizz realized this and scrapped it.
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Sounds like WoW on consoles to me.
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On March 28 2009 03:11 Amnesty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2009 17:17 VorcePA wrote:I'd crap my pants if they revitalized Starcraft: Ghost. It was going to be the best game ever made. Even better than the game that it took the story from. Never has such a heinous crime been committed as the one that Blizzard made when they announced they had canceled that game. No it wasnt going to be that great. There is no way it would have been better than the games in genre that are pretty good. UT1-3, CS, Q3, Halo. etc If it was better than any of those games in any regard than i would be just tottaly shocked. And blizz realized this and scrapped it. Number of Koreans > number of UT1-2/CS/Q3/Halo players combined :O
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Blizzard always makes good games. Now we'll have good games on consoles too
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On March 27 2009 20:24 ~_~ wrote: rock n roll racing 2 :O I would love that so much.
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On March 27 2009 23:27 Manit0u wrote: The birds are chirping that the new MMO will be in the Diablo setting.
The birds are wrong. the new MMO is 100% new universe.
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On March 28 2009 03:45 Spartan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2009 03:11 Amnesty wrote:On March 27 2009 17:17 VorcePA wrote:I'd crap my pants if they revitalized Starcraft: Ghost. It was going to be the best game ever made. Even better than the game that it took the story from. Never has such a heinous crime been committed as the one that Blizzard made when they announced they had canceled that game. No it wasnt going to be that great. There is no way it would have been better than the games in genre that are pretty good. UT1-3, CS, Q3, Halo. etc If it was better than any of those games in any regard than i would be just tottaly shocked. And blizz realized this and scrapped it. Number of Koreans > number of UT1-2/CS/Q3/Halo players combined :O where do you get these statistics?
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wait what you guys were actually excited about sc:ghost?
my thoughts were blizzard tried to get into consoles three times and failed each time so... but I have faith in Rob Pardo, he is pretty bright.
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i really think people need to buy blizzard stock
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On March 28 2009 02:53 Spartan wrote: I doubt they're working on 2 Diablo games at the same time..
Warcraft 3 -> World of Warcraft
That being said a diablo mmo would be pretty dumb imo. I would rather see diablo 3 with large monthly or bimonthly updates for a small price.
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On March 27 2009 14:57 Spartan wrote:Found this really interesting article.. Show nested quote +Blizzard in talks with Microsoft for next Xbox "If I was them, I'd be sitting around trying to figure out what's a cool input device that supports all types of new kinds of games." i say keyboard... for the console... or those single hand keypads for MMO's
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On March 27 2009 16:19 DeathSpank wrote: blizz+microsoft=me no longer buying anything blizzard.
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Fucking Shit! Do you guys watch the Championship Gaming League? (I mean sorry I think I don't like it that much since watching CS in Third Person Mode sucks.) But think about the possibility of Starcraft 2 or Starcraft:BW would be awesome! (well, just remove the SC:BW since it's Korean EZ win there)
Edit: Forgot to mention if that rumor is really true or not
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On March 28 2009 06:21 Racenilatr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2009 03:45 Spartan wrote:On March 28 2009 03:11 Amnesty wrote:On March 27 2009 17:17 VorcePA wrote:I'd crap my pants if they revitalized Starcraft: Ghost. It was going to be the best game ever made. Even better than the game that it took the story from. Never has such a heinous crime been committed as the one that Blizzard made when they announced they had canceled that game. No it wasnt going to be that great. There is no way it would have been better than the games in genre that are pretty good. UT1-3, CS, Q3, Halo. etc If it was better than any of those games in any regard than i would be just tottaly shocked. And blizz realized this and scrapped it. Number of Koreans > number of UT1-2/CS/Q3/Halo players combined :O where do you get these statistics? The one, whose name shall not be spoken, has told me.
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return of Starcraft Ghost ??!??!
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I honestly doubt anything will come out of this. For one thing, Blizzard is not the only developer in talks with Microsoft regarding the new console.
And for another, Blizzard has attempted a "return" to consoles several times, first by porting some of their PC titles onto consoles (Diablo, StarCraft and WarCraft II were all ported) and then by trying to make a console game from the ground up (StarCraft:Ghost). All of them preety much failed and after the Ghost debacle, Blizzard simply gave up as illustrated in this interview:
+ Show Spoiler +GS: Is cracking back into the console market still on the company's list of objectives?
MM: It is not.
GS: Why was the console market worth getting into in the last generation, but now you're backing away from it?
MM: We thought we would be able to do it without impacting our PC teams. We just had to make a priority call when it became clear that we were getting late to the market with these things, and we were not creating something that would live up to the Blizzard quality I've been talking about without additional resources. Now it's pretty clear that we really could use those resources helping us out on World of Warcraft and other things. Ideally, you try to do everything, but one of my points this morning was about not trying to do everything at the same time and focusing on what's important. And that's what we did.
Source: Gamespot
Combined with the potential of OnLive, I just do not see why Blizzard would be interested anymore.
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hmm a while back, blizzard sent out a newsletter asking fans if they would be interested with a starcraft on ds and diablo 2 on psp. hardware wise it's feasible, though the lack of hotkeys would make it pretty casual. but still, can u imagine, sc 4v4 anywhere? O.O though diablo 3 seems like it could come out on 360 or the next gen console.
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hmm a while back, blizzard sent out a newsletter asking fans if they would be interested with a starcraft on ds and diablo 2 on psp. hardware wise it's feasible, though the lack of hotkeys would make it pretty casual. but still, can u imagine, sc 4v4 anywhere? O.O though diablo 3 seems like it could come out on 360 or the next gen console.
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On March 28 2009 03:11 Amnesty wrote:
No it wasnt going to be that great. There is no way it would have been better than the games in genre that are pretty good. UT1-3, CS, Q3, Halo. etc If it was better than any of those games in any regard than i would be just tottaly shocked.
And blizz realized this and scrapped it.
Starcraft: Ghost was supposed to be a stealth infiltration, etc game. Not a pow pow FPS.
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this is funny coz my brother once said that the only way SC2 beats SC if they make a completely new console for it and make it basically something we've never seen so far.
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