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Kerensky
148 Posts
On January 25 2009 04:34 CharlieMurphy wrote: lol look at this stupid pic the UK articles uses ![[image loading]](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01245/gamers_beer_1245542c.jpg) Does that look like a negative atmosphere? Would they prefer people going to a pub and driving home drunk or whatever? eewww....look like shallow ponce yachties....what a disgusting photo :3 | ||
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
Oh and I'm a sober self-hater but I also suck at computergames. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On January 25 2009 04:34 CharlieMurphy wrote: lol look at this stupid pic the UK articles uses Does that look like a negative atmosphere? Would they prefer people going to a pub and driving home drunk or whatever? Is it me or are they plaing N64 and gamecube at the same time lol | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On January 25 2009 04:34 CharlieMurphy wrote: lol look at this stupid pic the UK articles uses Does that look like a negative atmosphere? Would they prefer people going to a pub and driving home drunk or whatever? Is it me or are they plaing N64 and gamecube at the same time lol See they must be wasted really bad lol | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On January 25 2009 04:24 Rekrul wrote: YOU DUMB BITCH ITS NOT CAUSE THEY ARE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES, THE FACT IS MOST PEOPLE PLAY VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE THEIR LIVES ALREADY FUCKING SUCK AND THEY ARE PATHETIC LOSERS AND HAVE NOTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO VIDEO GAMES ARE PREVENTING SUICIDES KILL URSELF LAURA The study shows a correlation between negative effects and video gaming. It doesn't try to determine causality. People often misinterpret correlational studies, the useful thing about this study is that because of this evidence social programs can be erected to support or keep an eye out for gamers, and determine if these effects are problematic. Like I said, contrary to what a lot of people think in this thread, it doesn't try to determine causality, there's no need to get all defensive about video gaming. Proving that video games impact people who are otherwise more 'normal' will be incredibly hard to prove and I believe that the most likely cause will be found in personality, mainly introverted males. I doubt games exacerbate the effects of antisocial behavior but you never know. | ||
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
On January 25 2009 04:45 IzzyCraft wrote: Is it me or are they plaing N64 and gamecube at the same time lol See they must be wasted really bad lol hahahaa | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On January 25 2009 04:48 Frits wrote: The study shows a correlation between negative effects and video gaming. It doesn't try to determine causality. People often misinterpret correlational studies, the useful thing about this study is that because of this evidence social programs can be erected to support or keep an eye out for gamers, and determine if these effects are problematic. Like I said, contrary to what a lot of people think in this thread, it doesn't try to determine causality, there's no need to get all defensive about video gaming. Proving that video games impact people who are otherwise more 'normal' will be incredibly hard to prove and I believe that the most likely cause will be found in personality, mainly introverted males. I doubt games exacerbate the effects of antisocial behavior but you never know. true but everyone that reads the studies interprets them that way and the news portrays it that way | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
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MarklarMarklar
Fiji1823 Posts
WAS SO INTENSe i was a really good counterstrike player, but i never played as good as on acid. It has like a amphetamine like quality which causes you to concentrate REALLY GOOD, like aimbot, reaction time x5. PLUS all the walls and stuff were moving. i really recommend that | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On January 25 2009 04:28 CharlieMurphy wrote: lol, I totally agree. Most my friends who don't play poker or games are getting a 12 pack every day after work. Games are actually my anti drug, if there were no games I would have to fill that time up with something else. Not only that but I would probably commit more crimes without games. And the hugest factor IMO is that YOU CAN NOT PLAY YOUR TOP GAME under the influence of something. Why are you using anecdotal evidence when it's not even relevant, are you an university student? Are your friends university students? The study doesn't have to be representative for all groups of the population. Also I think you're confused with the definition of 'more likely', this study shows that gamers are more likely people who tend to drink a lot or become heavy drinkers than other people, or show other antisocial behavior. This doesn't mean that non gamers can't be heavy drinkers. And what's so funny about Laura Walker, I've been pondering this for 10 minutes now lol. I hope you realize that in science there is no authority and articles are strictly judged by their content. | ||
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MuR)Ernu
Finland768 Posts
They are so tedious and most of the time you are bored when you play it. So you might want to get wasted, so its more fun. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On January 25 2009 04:24 Rekrul wrote: YOU DUMB BITCH ITS NOT CAUSE THEY ARE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES, THE FACT IS MOST PEOPLE PLAY VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE THEIR LIVES ALREADY FUCKING SUCK AND THEY ARE PATHETIC LOSERS AND HAVE NOTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO VIDEO GAMES ARE PREVENTING SUICIDES KILL URSELF LAURA Hm, as disgusting as it sounds he actually is right. And the study sucks from that point of view: the logical sequences are completely fucked up. | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On January 25 2009 04:28 CharlieMurphy wrote: lol, I totally agree. Most my friends who don't play poker or games are getting a 12 pack every day after work. Games are actually my anti drug, if there were no games I would have to fill that time up with something else. Not only that but I would probably commit more crimes without games. And the hugest factor IMO is that YOU CAN NOT PLAY YOUR TOP GAME under the influence of something. Yeah, but most people here are speaking from the point of view as competitive gamers. I know I have met, and know, loser gamers who fit pretty much exactly what this study says. Guys who sit at home and drink by themselves while masturbating to anime porn, and playing RPG's (and this is not a joke, I really know people who do that). I think we can all agree that there are different "sects" of gamers, and there is definitely a group of them that would fit exactly what they're talking about here. I also know people that have had relationships ruined because they'd rather play a game over spending time with their gf, or whatever. The thing is, and I agree with Rekrul here, most people that play games like that turn to games because they suck at everything else in life. The games are an outlet, not a cause. EDIT: Before Frits gets on me about it being a correlational study, I know that, and I know that it's not determining causality. | ||
intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
On January 25 2009 04:34 CharlieMurphy wrote: lol look at this stupid pic the UK articles uses Does that look like a negative atmosphere? Would they prefer people going to a pub and driving home drunk or whatever? HAHHAHHA oh my goodness this one's awesome too, it's the accompanying photograph from the sk-gaming article in the op: ![[image loading]](http://s.sk-gaming.com/image/image/cd9ca3d182fe0cfcm.jpg) this is the fate of all gamers, look at how wretched this one looks | ||
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SmoKing2012
United States385 Posts
On January 25 2009 04:28 CharlieMurphy wrote: And the hugest factor IMO is that YOU CAN NOT PLAY YOUR TOP GAME under the influence of something. But it's fun to try | ||
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On January 25 2009 05:31 intrigue wrote: HAHHAHHA oh my goodness this one's awesome too, it's the accompanying photograph from the sk-gaming article in the op: this is the fate of all gamers, look at how wretched this one looks The lady on the right, drinking the beer, looks like a crackhead. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
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Ideas
United States8180 Posts
Basically all studies are bullshit (even non-game related ones) though | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
On January 25 2009 05:26 Cheerio wrote: Hm, as disgusting as it sounds he actually is right. And the study sucks from that point of view: the logical sequences are completely fucked up. Yeah but the study doesn't contradict what rekrul says at all, his observation that the media is largely responsible for the anti gamer stance of society is much more interesting. You can't really blame a scientist when it's manipulative idiots who abuse or misinterpret this kind of information and use it to further their own agenda. Also I think studies like these are incredibly important in modern liberal societies because they keep us convinced of the fact that we can change and better people. Im saying this because I'd hate to see people take a stance against the innocent party (social scientists) here which only makes the position of manipulative idiots in the media stronger. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On January 25 2009 04:48 Frits wrote: The study shows a correlation between negative effects and video gaming. It doesn't try to determine causality. People often misinterpret correlational studies, the useful thing about this study is that because of this evidence social programs can be erected to support or keep an eye out for gamers, and determine if these effects are problematic. Like I said, contrary to what a lot of people think in this thread, it doesn't try to determine causality, there's no need to get all defensive about video gaming. Proving that video games impact people who are otherwise more 'normal' will be incredibly hard to prove and I believe that the most likely cause will be found in personality, mainly introverted males. I doubt games exacerbate the effects of antisocial behavior but you never know. I was gonna say something like that too when rek posted but most of these 'studies' are all like this, and the underlying message is that games are bad regardless if its a loose correlation or not, which is bullshit. | ||
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