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stack
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada348 Posts
January 24 2009 22:11 GMT
#61
I could see this being true.
life is short, dont F it up
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-24 22:37:23
January 24 2009 22:14 GMT
#62
It's funny how people are agreeing with rekrul when you read a little further he already stated that his hate/frustration is aimed moreso at the media's often biased interpretation, not at discrediting the research itself.

Anyone who thinks this research is useless/doesn't prove anything is clueless about scientific research or in hardcore denial.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-24 22:19:07
January 24 2009 22:18 GMT
#63
On January 25 2009 07:14 Frits wrote:

Anyone who thinks this research is useless/doesn't prove anything is clueless about scientific research or in hardcore denial.

Yep. Even if it's seemingly obvious and intuitive, legitimate research needs to be done before any policies are made by companies/doctors/hospitals/government/etc.

It's like the driving with cell phone studies. No shit, txting at the wheel is dangerous but they need some empirical proof before they make it a crime.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
January 24 2009 22:25 GMT
#64
This is such a failure of a test study. As far as I know, - never mind. It just fails.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-24 22:34:02
January 24 2009 22:33 GMT
#65
On January 25 2009 07:18 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2009 07:14 Frits wrote:

Anyone who thinks this research is useless/doesn't prove anything is clueless about scientific research or in hardcore denial.

Yep. Even if it's seemingly obvious and intuitive, legitimate research needs to be done before any policies are made by companies/doctors/hospitals/government/etc.

It's like the driving with cell phone studies. No shit, txting at the wheel is dangerous but they need some empirical proof before they make it a crime.


Funny you should mention that because it reminds me of the economical component vs moral considerations. A big influence is that if it wasn't so good for the economy texting/calling behind the wheel would be outlawed a long time ago. It's known to be as dangerous as driving with twice the legal amount of alcohol in your system.

That same system actually works in the favor of gaming, before they take any action in such a huge business they'll make damn sure that it's worth it, with hard evidence of causality and the consequences would have to be that it's turning a lot of people antisocial. It's not like they will or even can suddenly take away gaming in liberal countries.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
January 24 2009 22:51 GMT
#66
On January 25 2009 07:07 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2009 06:32 Resonance wrote:
These studies are fucking ridiculous. While the two may be linked (in some communities even @ that, the majority of gamers I have met are very successful outside of gaming), it does not mean that there is a correlation between the two -.-

On January 25 2009 04:24 Rekrul wrote:
YOU DUMB BITCH ITS NOT CAUSE THEY ARE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES, THE FACT IS MOST PEOPLE PLAY VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE THEIR LIVES ALREADY FUCKING SUCK AND THEY ARE PATHETIC LOSERS AND HAVE NOTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO

VIDEO GAMES ARE PREVENTING SUICIDES

KILL URSELF LAURA


Yes and I agree w/Rekrul 100%, the low self-esteem players already started off with low self-esteem (US east). They have nothing to do anyway so they have no choice but to play video games.

These studies are useless, they don't prove shit.

What do you think correlate means?

It's honestly a bit amusing seeing everyone here jump into defensive mode. Most people would agree with Rekrul yet they hate the research because SK gaming did a shitty job explaining the article.



Sorry, let me rephrase that.

They may be correlated, but this correlation does not indicate that gaming causes this type of behaviour.
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
January 24 2009 22:52 GMT
#67
On January 25 2009 06:29 Fontong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2009 06:04 Sonu wrote:
this is bs. yeah some people start to be loners... but thats some people..

and also they studied one state. Utah is like... in the middle of theUS. and they could be having more teenager problems than usual right now. not a fair study if u ask me.

Imo loner ---> loner gamer, not gamer ---> gamer loner.

Unless it was WoW that did to to them hehehe.

Play games as a loner is really far less fun than playing games with irl friends anyway, I think most of us can relate that having friends play SC with you makes it way more fun due to rivalries.


I agree that playing wth friends is more fun.

But i still think this study wasnt a very good one. Only 800 students? and in Utah? Wat about other states. or other countries. I watched the video... and i still think this is a badly done study. a good concept. just the way they did it was bad
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
KaasZerg
Profile Joined November 2005
Netherlands927 Posts
January 24 2009 23:03 GMT
#68
First the dear PHD or whatever finds a corelation between A and B.
Conclusion A--->B or
B--->A (can be a lot more complex like C---->A and B) and the conclusion the most convenient to the 'scientist' preconceptions is chosen.

These people should be shunned from the scientific community with their pre-kindergarden logic.
And burned to the stake in the name of progress.
Drakill Tannan
Profile Joined July 2008
Mexico13 Posts
January 24 2009 23:10 GMT
#69
Mother against videogames again? look at the pic this people don't know shit about videogames.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
January 24 2009 23:54 GMT
#70
Drinking only inhibits your game and therefore is only useful for show matches
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
January 25 2009 00:00 GMT
#71
I don't drink that often.

I don't use drugs at all.

I don't have low self-esteem

I think Dr. Laura is a fucking ignorant.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
January 25 2009 00:09 GMT
#72
I don't drink, don't use drugs, but smoke like 1 box a day.
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
January 25 2009 00:13 GMT
#73
On January 25 2009 09:09 MeriaDoKk wrote:
I don't drink, don't use drugs, but smoke like 1 box a day.


idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

u dont get any effect from smoking LOL!!!!!!!!!!

but its SUPER HARMFUL

why man?
hello there
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
January 25 2009 00:16 GMT
#74
On January 25 2009 09:13 MarklarMarklar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2009 09:09 MeriaDoKk wrote:
I don't drink, don't use drugs, but smoke like 1 box a day.


idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

u dont get any effect from smoking LOL!!!!!!!!!!

but its SUPER HARMFUL

why man?

hahaha, doesn't do any of the worthwhile drugs but "oh yea i do the most retarded one".
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
January 25 2009 00:16 GMT
#75
I think I would rather rail a line of coke every morning than smoke a pack of cigs every day.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 25 2009 00:21 GMT
#76
On January 25 2009 07:51 Resonance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2009 07:07 Jibba wrote:
On January 25 2009 06:32 Resonance wrote:
These studies are fucking ridiculous. While the two may be linked (in some communities even @ that, the majority of gamers I have met are very successful outside of gaming), it does not mean that there is a correlation between the two -.-

On January 25 2009 04:24 Rekrul wrote:
YOU DUMB BITCH ITS NOT CAUSE THEY ARE PLAYING VIDEO GAMES, THE FACT IS MOST PEOPLE PLAY VIDEO GAMES BECAUSE THEIR LIVES ALREADY FUCKING SUCK AND THEY ARE PATHETIC LOSERS AND HAVE NOTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO

VIDEO GAMES ARE PREVENTING SUICIDES

KILL URSELF LAURA


Yes and I agree w/Rekrul 100%, the low self-esteem players already started off with low self-esteem (US east). They have nothing to do anyway so they have no choice but to play video games.

These studies are useless, they don't prove shit.

What do you think correlate means?

It's honestly a bit amusing seeing everyone here jump into defensive mode. Most people would agree with Rekrul yet they hate the research because SK gaming did a shitty job explaining the article.



Sorry, let me rephrase that.

They may be correlated, but this correlation does not indicate that gaming causes this type of behaviour.

So you agree with what they reported. Jesus people... whatever happened to TL's 190 IQ.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
January 25 2009 00:23 GMT
#77
On January 25 2009 09:16 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I think I would rather rail a line of coke every morning than smoke a pack of cigs every day.


I just KNEW there would be an explanation. I love you charlie.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
SmoKing2012
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States385 Posts
January 25 2009 00:33 GMT
#78
On January 25 2009 06:47 Not_Computer wrote:
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good catch
although as a self hating drunk pothead I can't really argue the study
How do you like them apples, ho-bag? And how do you like those very same apples, Eggars!
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
January 25 2009 00:35 GMT
#79
Wow look what they said (on the UK article):
"Female gamers were more likely to suffer low self-esteem than other women, an effect not seen among male players, the study found."

And above that:
"By contrast, only around 7 per cent of women admitted that they played computer games that often."
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7299 Posts
January 25 2009 00:42 GMT
#80
lol @ byu
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
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