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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36400 Posts
March 12 2009 17:41 GMT
#821
if anyone came into this show expecting The Sopranos with video games, you are either extremely delusional or have never watched television, especially reality television, before. this show is exactly in mold of the archetype that the first Survivor started, done in the exact same cheesy way. the goal is to provide brainless drama for one hour and put people in situations where they either embarrass themselves or others. so far there hasn't been much drama but there's never that much in the first episode of these shows.

it's hilarious and entertaining exactly because it is so cheesy and bad, and plus we get to watch a guy we've seen and flamed with (and against) so much on these forums. that's must watch TV for me. i mean, take a step back and think about it, if you told me that there was going to be a television reality show where incontrol is one of the main characters, even if you hated him, your first reaction has to be "i can't wait to watch this."
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
March 12 2009 17:43 GMT
#822
agreed. i love to hate this show o_O
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
atombombforpeace
Profile Joined December 2008
United States408 Posts
March 12 2009 17:57 GMT
#823
I do have mixed reactions to the show, but overall, it was pretty cool. I like the concept of the whole show, and the set and loft look pretty awesome. The drama forced into it is pretty typical of all reality tv shows, which I hate, but I didn't feel it was worse than in any other show. One thing that did sort of confuse me was how they basically cut the performances in the first show down to a lot of people reacting about how they did, instead of seeing the whole song performed. It didn't bother me that much, but as the contestants dwindle down, I wouldn't mind seeing more of the actual game/challenge.

I would also say good luck, but then again, its already recorded. Which means it must make it insanely hard to hide the excitement of winning.... good job so far.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-12 18:02:46
March 12 2009 18:02 GMT
#824
That girl Alyson is really hot lol.

And whats up with the beeping? Is all programs like this? How can you stand that?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
hazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom570 Posts
March 12 2009 18:03 GMT
#825
guys its friggin REALITY TV, what did you expect? anyway it seems pretty entertaining and amusing, i enjoyed watchin the first ep on youtube at least
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
March 12 2009 18:13 GMT
#826
Horrible horrible show ><. All reality TV this bad?
And I feel like I am echoing a lot of people here when I say that I think that rewarding any of these guys the title "overall best gamer" is a bit...T_T. As someone said most of them don't even seem to be top of the crop at their own games.
But oh well, I too will obviously watch until Inc is eleminated wins. Having him as a spokes person for WCG could possibly mean really nice things for western epsorts. Hmm....
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Midnight)Sun
Profile Joined January 2003
United States256 Posts
March 12 2009 18:32 GMT
#827
On March 13 2009 03:13 KlaCkoN wrote:
Horrible horrible show ><. All reality TV this bad?
And I feel like I am echoing a lot of people here when I say that I think that rewarding any of these guys the title "overall best gamer" is a bit...T_T. As someone said most of them don't even seem to be top of the crop at their own games.
But oh well, I too will obviously watch until Inc is eleminated wins. Having him as a spokes person for WCG could possibly mean really nice things for western epsorts. Hmm....


you don't need to be at the top of your own game to be considered the "best overall gamer." that's why it's called overall gamer.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
March 12 2009 18:41 GMT
#828
I hope there are some PC games and not just console ones. I would assume that most games are going to be console games though which probably does not play to incs strengths. Still, he has got to be a favorite to win along with Swoozie imo.
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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-12 18:43:04
March 12 2009 18:42 GMT
#829
On March 13 2009 03:32 Midnight)Sun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 03:13 KlaCkoN wrote:
Horrible horrible show ><. All reality TV this bad?
And I feel like I am echoing a lot of people here when I say that I think that rewarding any of these guys the title "overall best gamer" is a bit...T_T. As someone said most of them don't even seem to be top of the crop at their own games.
But oh well, I too will obviously watch until Inc is eleminated wins. Having him as a spokes person for WCG could possibly mean really nice things for western epsorts. Hmm....


you don't need to be at the top of your own game to be considered the "best overall gamer." that's why it's called overall gamer.

Do you honestly think any of the guys on this show would place anywhere near the top in a combined halo / virtua fighter / guitar hero / racing game tournament where really really good players were allowed to play? I sure as hell don't.
They are on the show because they are not too sterotypic nerds (guys) or cute (girls) and because they seemed capable of at least surviving the irl challenges. None of that has anything at all to do with "best all around gamer" though and that's my point.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
March 12 2009 18:53 GMT
#830
I enjoyed it, personally. I like seeing people in various challenges, and character development should become more interesting as the game develops. Yes, it's cheesy, but going into it expecting everything to be amazing is a bad mindset (for anything).

I'll be watching 'til the end, regardless of whether Geoff is there or not. I suspect he will be or will be very close to it, though. :p
Think. :)
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 12 2009 18:57 GMT
#831
On March 13 2009 03:42 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 03:32 Midnight)Sun wrote:
On March 13 2009 03:13 KlaCkoN wrote:
Horrible horrible show ><. All reality TV this bad?
And I feel like I am echoing a lot of people here when I say that I think that rewarding any of these guys the title "overall best gamer" is a bit...T_T. As someone said most of them don't even seem to be top of the crop at their own games.
But oh well, I too will obviously watch until Inc is eleminated wins. Having him as a spokes person for WCG could possibly mean really nice things for western epsorts. Hmm....


you don't need to be at the top of your own game to be considered the "best overall gamer." that's why it's called overall gamer.

Do you honestly think any of the guys on this show would place anywhere near the top in a combined halo / virtua fighter / guitar hero / racing game tournament where really really good players were allowed to play? I sure as hell don't.
They are on the show because they are not too sterotypic nerds (guys) or cute (girls) and because they seemed capable of at least surviving the irl challenges. None of that has anything at all to do with "best all around gamer" though and that's my point.


ciji is top 10 on earth for guitar hero/rockband
alyson is one of the best female halo players ever to play

Jamal has won 2 "Iron Man of Gaming" tourneys where thousands of people from all over the country come to Texas (iirc) and compete in a field of many many games.

kelly is probably the best overall female fps player atm.. (not counting cs)

But this is all semantics.. the overall gamer part is where you are confused. Read my previous post on the subject.
Myrkskog
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada481 Posts
March 12 2009 18:59 GMT
#832
The show was losing me until the host told the Madden champion "Game Over." Fuck, that was awesome.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
March 12 2009 19:01 GMT
#833
On March 13 2009 02:41 Hot_Bid wrote:
it's hilarious and entertaining exactly because it is so cheesy and bad, and plus we get to watch a guy we've seen and flamed with (and against) so much on these forums. that's must watch TV for me. i mean, take a step back and think about it, if you told me that there was going to be a television reality show where incontrol is one of the main characters, even if you hated him, your first reaction has to be "i can't wait to watch this."


Yeah lol this show owns exactly for the reason that it blows.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
March 12 2009 19:01 GMT
#834
On March 13 2009 03:13 KlaCkoN wrote:
Horrible horrible show ><. All reality TV this bad?
And I feel like I am echoing a lot of people here when I say that I think that rewarding any of these guys the title "overall best gamer" is a bit...T_T. As someone said most of them don't even seem to be top of the crop at their own games.


Yes you need to disregard stupidities to watch shows like that, and just skip worst parts, then it is not that bad.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
March 12 2009 19:26 GMT
#835
On March 13 2009 03:57 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 03:42 KlaCkoN wrote:
On March 13 2009 03:32 Midnight)Sun wrote:
On March 13 2009 03:13 KlaCkoN wrote:
Horrible horrible show ><. All reality TV this bad?
And I feel like I am echoing a lot of people here when I say that I think that rewarding any of these guys the title "overall best gamer" is a bit...T_T. As someone said most of them don't even seem to be top of the crop at their own games.
But oh well, I too will obviously watch until Inc is eleminated wins. Having him as a spokes person for WCG could possibly mean really nice things for western epsorts. Hmm....


you don't need to be at the top of your own game to be considered the "best overall gamer." that's why it's called overall gamer.

Do you honestly think any of the guys on this show would place anywhere near the top in a combined halo / virtua fighter / guitar hero / racing game tournament where really really good players were allowed to play? I sure as hell don't.
They are on the show because they are not too sterotypic nerds (guys) or cute (girls) and because they seemed capable of at least surviving the irl challenges. None of that has anything at all to do with "best all around gamer" though and that's my point.


ciji is top 10 on earth for guitar hero/rockband
alyson is one of the best female halo players ever to play

Jamal has won 2 "Iron Man of Gaming" tourneys where thousands of people from all over the country come to Texas (iirc) and compete in a field of many many games.

kelly is probably the best overall female fps player atm.. (not counting cs)

But this is all semantics.. the overall gamer part is where you are confused. Read my previous post on the subject.

I did read your post and I don't feel particulary confused :p
I even mentioned the ability of the current contestants to cope with the irl challenges in my post, I just don't think that has anything to do with being "the best all around gamer".

Just take you for example, I am 100% positive that there are 1000s of kids that would easily beat you in any console game in existance (bar sc on 64 lol). Considering the time you have spent on bw nothing else would make any sense. Only that well, they most likely would be living in their mothers basement and bench closer to 65 pounds =p. Don't get me wrong, I still think you winning this show would be one of the best things possible to happen to western esports but giving you the title of best (console) gamer ??
Oh well I realise I probably shouldn't bother at all with something that's just poor wording on their part.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 12 2009 19:29 GMT
#836
On March 13 2009 04:26 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 03:57 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On March 13 2009 03:42 KlaCkoN wrote:
On March 13 2009 03:32 Midnight)Sun wrote:
On March 13 2009 03:13 KlaCkoN wrote:
Horrible horrible show ><. All reality TV this bad?
And I feel like I am echoing a lot of people here when I say that I think that rewarding any of these guys the title "overall best gamer" is a bit...T_T. As someone said most of them don't even seem to be top of the crop at their own games.
But oh well, I too will obviously watch until Inc is eleminated wins. Having him as a spokes person for WCG could possibly mean really nice things for western epsorts. Hmm....


you don't need to be at the top of your own game to be considered the "best overall gamer." that's why it's called overall gamer.

Do you honestly think any of the guys on this show would place anywhere near the top in a combined halo / virtua fighter / guitar hero / racing game tournament where really really good players were allowed to play? I sure as hell don't.
They are on the show because they are not too sterotypic nerds (guys) or cute (girls) and because they seemed capable of at least surviving the irl challenges. None of that has anything at all to do with "best all around gamer" though and that's my point.


ciji is top 10 on earth for guitar hero/rockband
alyson is one of the best female halo players ever to play

Jamal has won 2 "Iron Man of Gaming" tourneys where thousands of people from all over the country come to Texas (iirc) and compete in a field of many many games.

kelly is probably the best overall female fps player atm.. (not counting cs)

But this is all semantics.. the overall gamer part is where you are confused. Read my previous post on the subject.

I did read your post and I don't feel particulary confused :p
I even mentioned the ability of the current contestants to cope with the irl challenges in my post, I just don't think that has anything to do with being "the best all around gamer".

Just take you for example, I am 100% positive that there are 1000s of kids that would easily beat you in any console game in existance (bar sc on 64 lol). Considering the time you have spent on bw nothing else would make any sense. Only that well, they most likely would be living in their mothers basement and bench closer to 65 pounds =p. Don't get me wrong, I still think you winning this show would be one of the best things possible to happen to western esports but giving you the title of best (console) gamer ??
Oh well I realise I probably shouldn't bother at all with something that's just poor wording on their part.


I wouldn't have the title of "best console gamer" though. I'd have the title "best gamer" according to WCG's Ultimate Gamer.

And they define "gamer" as someone who plays THOSE games and the real life "games." I specifically said their definition of "gamer" is separate and unique to the show. If you get that point then you are going to have a tough time arguing against my post.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
March 12 2009 19:40 GMT
#837
On March 13 2009 04:29 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 04:26 KlaCkoN wrote:
On March 13 2009 03:57 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On March 13 2009 03:42 KlaCkoN wrote:
On March 13 2009 03:32 Midnight)Sun wrote:
On March 13 2009 03:13 KlaCkoN wrote:
Horrible horrible show ><. All reality TV this bad?
And I feel like I am echoing a lot of people here when I say that I think that rewarding any of these guys the title "overall best gamer" is a bit...T_T. As someone said most of them don't even seem to be top of the crop at their own games.
But oh well, I too will obviously watch until Inc is eleminated wins. Having him as a spokes person for WCG could possibly mean really nice things for western epsorts. Hmm....


you don't need to be at the top of your own game to be considered the "best overall gamer." that's why it's called overall gamer.

Do you honestly think any of the guys on this show would place anywhere near the top in a combined halo / virtua fighter / guitar hero / racing game tournament where really really good players were allowed to play? I sure as hell don't.
They are on the show because they are not too sterotypic nerds (guys) or cute (girls) and because they seemed capable of at least surviving the irl challenges. None of that has anything at all to do with "best all around gamer" though and that's my point.


ciji is top 10 on earth for guitar hero/rockband
alyson is one of the best female halo players ever to play

Jamal has won 2 "Iron Man of Gaming" tourneys where thousands of people from all over the country come to Texas (iirc) and compete in a field of many many games.

kelly is probably the best overall female fps player atm.. (not counting cs)

But this is all semantics.. the overall gamer part is where you are confused. Read my previous post on the subject.

I did read your post and I don't feel particulary confused :p
I even mentioned the ability of the current contestants to cope with the irl challenges in my post, I just don't think that has anything to do with being "the best all around gamer".

Just take you for example, I am 100% positive that there are 1000s of kids that would easily beat you in any console game in existance (bar sc on 64 lol). Considering the time you have spent on bw nothing else would make any sense. Only that well, they most likely would be living in their mothers basement and bench closer to 65 pounds =p. Don't get me wrong, I still think you winning this show would be one of the best things possible to happen to western esports but giving you the title of best (console) gamer ??
Oh well I realise I probably shouldn't bother at all with something that's just poor wording on their part.


I wouldn't have the title of "best console gamer" though. I'd have the title "best gamer" according to WCG's Ultimate Gamer.

And they define "gamer" as someone who plays THOSE games and the real life "games." I specifically said their definition of "gamer" is separate and unique to the show. If you get that point then you are going to have a tough time arguing against my post.

Fine fine :p
I still think it would have been more honest to skip the "best" part and just call it a competition though :p
Sort of like how I would have found it funny if some gladiator show decided to rename themselves to "the world's ultimate athlete" and as a caveat defined athlete as someone who partakes on their show.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-12 19:53:01
March 12 2009 19:50 GMT
#838
Seriously i enjoyed it.
Yes it is cheesy but who cares. I have already watched things waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse when i was bored. And there was no INcontrol :p

But please kill that Robert guy. He looks like a gay psycho with his lenses and he is so annoying. I want to punch him in the face. I also hate the way he wears his cap sideway. Such a wannabe.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Athena PMS
Profile Joined March 2009
United States44 Posts
March 12 2009 20:08 GMT
#839
I have to jump in and say that I feel it is important that gamers support this show simply for the opportunity it brings to the PLAYERS for once. The potential attention and money that can come into the industry AND players pockets is as gigantic chance to bring this sport to the mainstream. No, what this show is doing isn't pro gaming, but I am sure if some of you stepped back you could understand the masses wouldn't want want to see people sitting their with their mouths open and playing a game.

I have long been an advocate of player rights, player control, and of course female gaming and that is the reason why I even went on this and will support anything that helps gain the power of the player.

But one thing is for sure, it was the most amazing experience of my life, the good, the bad, and the embarrassing and I want a second season so that more gamers get an opportunity to do this as they make it even better. Yes there are games that should be on there that aren't, yes everyone isn't a "pro" gamer,. But this is a competition AND a reality show and should not be made into more then what it truly is: an opportunity for all players.

And lets not forget even though they eliminations are set up in true reality show format to create the most drama and allow different strategy's then we are used to, in the end ANYONE can pull themselves out of elimination by their gaming skills alone.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 12 2009 20:12 GMT
#840
Athena makes a really good point actually.. at the end of the day you are eliminated in a gaming challenge. All things aside it comes down to that.
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