EPTAs for the video, its very illegible and not even worth the watch. As far as the crime, the cop fucked up and should be punished. As far as the scenario, its standard to have the weapon drawn (havent you ever seen COPS?), especially since there seems to be a lot of ruckus and people around yelling 'fuck the police' and what not. as far as the thread tl;dr
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
As for the video, its very illegible and not even worth the watch. As far as the crime, the cop fucked up and should be punished. As far as the scenario, its standard to have the weapon drawn (havent you ever seen COPS?), especially since there seems to be a lot of ruckus and people around yelling 'fuck the police' and what not. as far as the thread tl;dr | ||
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BlackJack
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Salv
Canada3083 Posts
I hate those people yelling though, ugh. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On January 05 2009 12:10 ShaperofDreams wrote: accidental discharge? that makes no kind of sense! why would a cop have a gun trained on a guy who is on his belly with his hands cuffed behind his back? either the lawyer is lying or the cops are, probably cops, because even if the guy wasn't cuffed, that doesn't warrant pulling a gun on a person for such a petty crime. =p i was wondering when this would hit the forums. If you watch all the vids closely you notice that he isn't cuffed before he was shot but going to be also a percentage of the officers had either a gun or taser dawn it's hard to make out it seems accidental discharge to me. Routy drunk men fighting on bart i was actually wondering how long it would take until something like this would happen because bart extends their service to compensate for all the late night drinkers during new years and just about every year there is a fight =( I'm confident hell be charge with manslaughter not murder On January 05 2009 12:25 GeneralStan wrote: "loving father", "hard worker" and "sports enthusiast" all sound like cover for the fact that this Grant character was clearly a violent sociopath. I'm sure he had it coming. Lol yeah getting arrested for brawling on bart and being drunk on new years. Also nice picture of him with a tear shaped mark tat below the eye doesn't scream gang or wanna be although i could be mistaken might just be a bad place to have a birth mark that looks like that. I find them suing for 25 mil which bart def doesn't have is stupid popel are greedy or vengeful hard to tell. Protest don't ride bart because they already have reduced service compared to a couple years ago and now we gonna sue them. Oh yeah if you don't know bart police are real policemen even campus police like Standford police are fully trained police officers after a fight is being broken up it would not be unusual to have a weapon out while subduing the suspects. Imo it'll just pass in like one week like how a police officer killed a err retarted man tasering him while trying to subdue him but he just wouldn't give. | ||
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frankbg
Canada335 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
Can we please keep the cops die fuck cops i hope that guy gets shot bull shit out of this forum. Really all you are doing is breeding hate maybe i should hope you accidently knock over a large object a kill a little boy so then that boys family can wish someone accidently causes your death. For serious just stop that bull shit troll ball busting crap and stop posting when you're high and paranoid. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
Friendly tourtorial makes light about it but seriously some of the jokes are valid points... | ||
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Element)LoGiC
Canada1143 Posts
On January 07 2009 20:07 IzzyCraft wrote: Wow seriously some of the comments people make in this thread about police bashing is just off the cuff. Frankly at least in most parts of California police officers are to be trusted atlest now... and are unless your a gangbanger or some random shit like that most people have confidence in the police it's a necessary part of governing body that people are put into line when they are out of line. Can we please keep the cops die fuck cops i hope that guy gets shot bull shit out of this forum. Really all you are doing is breeding hate maybe i should hope you accidently knock over a large object a kill a little boy so then that boys family can wish someone accidently causes your death. For serious just stop that bull shit troll ball busting crap and stop posting when you're high and paranoid. I can't understand what you're saying. Oh, about the guns drawn thing. If you had a gun, and there was a huge and fairly close group of people around you, you're saying you would risk a few of them running at you without a gun in your hands, and then taking it from you and shooting you? Really? If there was a group of people yelling obscenities and telling me to die, I'd probably have my gun out too? Have you people forgotten what people are like? | ||
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BlackJack
United States10495 Posts
On January 07 2009 20:13 Element)LoGiC wrote: I can't understand what you're saying. Oh, about the guns drawn thing. If you had a gun, and there was a huge and fairly close group of people around you, you're saying you would risk a few of them running at you without a gun in your hands, and then taking it from you and shooting you? Really? If there was a group of people yelling obscenities and telling me to die, I'd probably have my gun out too? Have you people forgotten what people are like? There was a 2nd video posted at the end of page 3. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
Well about above just in short stop the police bashing unless you'd have trouble with police without you being a problem and you live in California cause really if your clumping everyone that shares a title in one spot it's bais responses that don't blong here i mean you can say my fucking government sucks and it can be true where you say but when you say fucking politicians it's just rude. I mean you can't bitch about the police with your smoking weed lol it's just stupid... I'm using a Wii to type t-t takes forever 2nd video at the end of page 3 lol hey hey thats fucked up you're obviously telling the man to get up but hes just being a limp and difficult In context you are working a late night shift during new years and you have to deal with drunk men fighting D: Sadly enought he majory of people that suck at life ride bart lol i was forced to for awhile and dear god some of these people | ||
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Element)LoGiC
Canada1143 Posts
On January 07 2009 20:20 BlackJack wrote: There was a 2nd video posted at the end of page 3. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1130724/brutal_attack_on_cop/ It's a good thing he didn't have his gun out to prevent this from happening. People get a lot braver when they don't have guns aimed at their face. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
Whats the saying "You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word" Although i think its al capone who said it but it works both ways. I wouldn't think the vid is wrong if you minuz the firearm discharge i'd think it's pretty normal for breaking up a fight and having to arrest a group of people. | ||
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frankbg
Canada335 Posts
On January 07 2009 20:13 Element)LoGiC wrote: I can't understand what you're saying. Oh, about the guns drawn thing. If you had a gun, and there was a huge and fairly close group of people around you, you're saying you would risk a few of them running at you without a gun in your hands, and then taking it from you and shooting you? Really? If there was a group of people yelling obscenities and telling me to die, I'd probably have my gun out too? Have you people forgotten what people are like? Are you f******* kidding me? People telling you to die? Have you watched the video? He was shot by a cold blooded assassin. The guy was cooperating, he had my age, had a kid, was drunk and got into a fight, is that enough to deserve to be shot in the back while you wait to be handcuffed? Yes, fuck the police. When you give people the authority to arrest, beat and shoot other people, you're bound to see excess. Now the smart asses in here who will try to use this quote and say "Oh, so we don't have police anymore? What would we do then?". I'm not saying I have a solution or anything, I'm just pointing out that with our current system, shit like this is bound to happen. What's worse is cops follow orders without any judgement and become part of the machine which is slowly killing free speach in the western world. Yes, fuck the police. | ||
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
On January 05 2009 12:02 Aca wrote: $25 Million Lawsuit Announced In BART Shooting An Oakland attorney representing the family of a man slain by a Bay Area Rapid Transit police officer early New Year's Day said Sunday that they will file a $25 million lawsuit against BART. Nice ! The lawyer will get 24.9 million, and the dead niggas family gets the rest. OH SWEET JUSTICE | ||
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frankbg
Canada335 Posts
You can't give a gun and a badge to power hungry people with average intellect. You just can't. | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On January 07 2009 20:51 frankbg wrote: I also clearly remember Boston cops so fucking incompetent that they killed a man they had handcuffed by causing massive hemmorages in his arms with the way they carried him around. You can't give a gun and a badge to power hungry people with average intellect. You just can't. You know the vast majority of people who are willing to do police work are type A personality you can't expect everyone to do that kind of work bad side is that personality type has subcategories in which also attracts those who shouldn't be there. They fucking go though training for 6 months and have to pass exams bart police are police not security gaurds god dam some people. Would you be willing to work as a police officer having to deal with people and work on holidays? most people would not but someone has to Every time a police officer draws his gun he has to have just reason and have a write up after doing so a fight between more then just 2 people is just reason. A funny thing about guns for them to work you have to take them off of the safety and another funny thing about them is they can go off while the safety is off very easily. Maybe if the police didn't need guns to guess what stop people with guns things would be better. Fuck man apparently you never seen the LA bank robbery in mid 90's with armored thugs with assault rifles just barreled though town until officers where able to get their hands on better firearms. It is from their foes, not their friends, that cities learn the lesson of building high walls | ||
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Element)LoGiC
Canada1143 Posts
On January 07 2009 20:44 frankbg wrote: Are you f******* kidding me? People telling you to die? Have you watched the video? He was shot by a cold blooded assassin. The guy was cooperating, he had my age, had a kid, was drunk and got into a fight, is that enough to deserve to be shot in the back while you wait to be handcuffed? Yes, fuck the police. When you give people the authority to arrest, beat and shoot other people, you're bound to see excess. Now the smart asses in here who will try to use this quote and say "Oh, so we don't have police anymore? What would we do then?". I'm not saying I have a solution or anything, I'm just pointing out that with our current system, shit like this is bound to happen. What's worse is cops follow orders without any judgement and become part of the machine which is slowly killing free speach in the western world. Yes, fuck the police. I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. See teamliquid, I told you, now do you understand? This is what some people actually think. So, if you guys were surrounded by this guy, would you have your pistols readied? | ||
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frankbg
Canada335 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance. You have watched all 3 videos and read news reports don't even think you are above which you are not. Want me to show you a picture of a fireman throwing a baby out of a window out of context you think one thing in context you know that the bottom floors are all on fire. A man who sits high on his horse is no taller then the man that stands firmly on the ground. | ||
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