George Bush dodges shoes

On December 15 2008 05:58 uNiGNoRe wrote:
Haha, too bad he dodged them. I wonder what would've happend if he got injured by one of those shoes.

On December 15 2008 05:58 LordWeird wrote:
He wasn't hit, he dodged them like combat-ex

On December 15 2008 06:03 GunsofthePatriots wrote:

That's why I put that in my post...

On December 15 2008 06:08 Avius wrote:
gosu reaction by bush, nice one GG

On December 15 2008 06:13 Xeofreestyler wrote:
ENOUGH

WITH

THE

SC

JOKES


OMG.

On December 15 2008 06:24 the PUNisher wrote:
did any group claim sole responsibility

On December 15 2008 06:27 the PUNisher wrote:
that shoe could've socked him in the head

On December 15 2008 06:51 SilverskY wrote:
These SC jokes are seriously... wow...

On December 15 2008 06:01 Leath wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D5oKEVqQJg

Who throws a shoe??? Honestly!

On December 15 2008 08:10 jello_biafra wrote:
Haha, another absolute classic from Bush. Funniest President ever, I don't think Obama will be so hilarious.

On December 15 2008 06:41 the PUNisher wrote:
if Kerry won the election they'd be throwing flip flops

On December 15 2008 09:21 Warrior Madness wrote:
I thought Bush's response was pretty funny and incisive.

On December 15 2008 09:31 Physician wrote:


"I don't what this guys cause is" (shrug) -gwb

well he was funny up to the point he claims ignorance at what the Iraqui journalist cause was..

On December 15 2008 09:31 Physician wrote:


"I don't what this guys cause is" (shrug) -gwb

well he was funny up to the point he claims ignorance at what the Iraqui journalist cause was..

On December 15 2008 09:38 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Everybody in Iraq bar none has had somebody they know kidnapped or killed - a shopkeeper, a professor, a doctor... many people have lost siblings or children, and there's a few million children who don't have parents anymore.


Maybe it has something to do with your invasion of his country under false pretenses, destroying untold amounts of infrastructure or killing hundreds of thousands of people at least.

Nahhhh, couldn't be that.

I guess that shoe thrower speaks for the entire country. You know, like the 5 million Iraqis who risked life and limb to slip a piece of paper inside a ballot box for the first time in their lives. I think they'd side with him. Yep.

Anyways, the guy should be throwing shoes at I dunno, the people who are actually blowing themselves up in market places and stuff.

On December 15 2008 09:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:

He doesn't speak for the entire country. But he can speak for those who have lost family, and he can speak for the dead. This aside, the assumption you're making that voted = supports American invasion is a pretty shaky one.

Before I get gangbanged, and while I can still respond to one post at a time...How can he automatically speak for the lost families and the people who've died? Even if he could speak for them, it doesn't mean what he's speaking makes sense.

On December 15 2008 10:09 EmeraldSparks wrote:

"This is a goodbye kiss from the Iraqi people, dog; this is for the widows and orphans and all those killed in Iraq," combined with his expression of contempt, seems to be an English sentence that properly parses and an understandable course of action. Between "do nothing," "interrupt the news conference," and "try to kill Bush," one of these gets the most non-negative media coverage.

I still don't get how he magically represents the will of the people. Cindy Sheehan certainly spoke a lot against the war on behalf of her fallen son. But do you think she actually spoke for him? Did he share her beliefs?

On December 15 2008 10:15 EmeraldSparks wrote:

He represents the will of the people who opposed the invasion of their country. It is likely that, if these people could be asked, "would you prefer it if the invasion had never happened and you were not maimed, crippled, or dead," or if "would you prefer it if the invasion had never happened and your parents were still alive," it is highly likely that these most of these people, valuing their limbs, lives, or family, would not be happy with Bush taking these away from them.

On December 15 2008 10:12 Warrior Madness wrote:
He seems to be saying, "I speak for all the innocent people who've died in this war. It's you're fault." I mean even if the majority of the Iraqi people DID think this, I don't think it's true at all.

On December 15 2008 10:21 Warrior Madness wrote:
But it still lays the blame completely on Bush. Not the terrorists themselves. If the police decided to try and clean up a neighbourhood of gang violence and innocent lives were lost as a result of it. Would the onus be on the police force?

On December 15 2008 10:21 Warrior Madness wrote:
Also, it doesn't say anything on whether it was necessary to invade in the first place, on what good has come out of it.

On December 15 2008 10:17 keit wrote:


mesmerizing

On December 15 2008 10:30 EmeraldSparks wrote:

You don't need to find it true. I happen to find it true. However, statements like "just another protester" or "why would he do that" or "LOL" I happen to find rather stupid.

Well, the initial justification was WMDs and also incidentally completely full of shit.

So I'm not actually in the mood to get into an Iraq War discussion now because I have finals tomorrow and the week upcoming; it merely seemed strange to me that the gravity of the situation seemed to be neglected by many posters and I wanted to point it out. Obvious, yeah; maybe I was asking for the discussion. Whatever.

On December 15 2008 09:31 Physician wrote:


"I don't what this guys cause is" (shrug) -gwb

Well he was funny until he claimed ignorance at what the Iraqui journalist cause was - which is far more disrespectful than any shoe throwing.. on the flip side it seems Iraq now has a responsible and free press lol..

(edited for clarity)

On December 15 2008 10:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I don't think Bush speaks Arabic....So...I think the claiming ignorance 'thing' was wrong....Or did you not realize that?

On December 15 2008 06:41 the PUNisher wrote:
if Kerry won the election they'd be throwing flip flops

On December 15 2008 06:24 the PUNisher wrote:
did any group claim sole responsibility

On December 15 2008 06:11 uNiGNoRe wrote:
Yea, but bad desicion making by that Iraqi. He should've flanked Bush.

On December 15 2008 06:02 nK)Duke wrote:
Nice timing, nice micro. Poorly executed.

On December 15 2008 11:57 NuB.xE wrote:
He microed that pretty well

On December 15 2008 12:12 LuckyFool wrote:
Good dodge apm by Bush.

On December 15 2008 11:55 ZidaneTribal wrote:
lol bush was pretty fast for an old man

On December 15 2008 06:07 il0seonpurpose wrote:
LOLOLOL

I kinda feel bad for Bush

On December 15 2008 12:23 Quesadilla wrote:


I read somewhere that he's most likely in the best physical shape of any president. I love how he dodged then got back up and looked at the dude smiling like "wut faggot"

On December 15 2008 12:52 Physician wrote:
maybe the shoe had plastic spikes or sharp edges laced with deadly toxin o-0a.. I am curious to what will happen to those shoes and to the reporter Muntadar al-Zeidi.

On December 15 2008 07:22 inReacH wrote:
how can she slap?

On December 15 2008 12:23 Quesadilla wrote:


I read somewhere that he's most likely in the best physical shape of any president. I love how he dodged then got back up and looked at the dude smiling like "wut faggot"

On December 15 2008 11:26 Physician wrote:


don't think too much, it might fry your brain..

On December 15 2008 16:10 ~OpZ~ wrote:

Just ignore the fact you were wrong? K thx.

On December 15 2008 23:12 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I don't know if anyone said this yet but,
Does anyone think this might have been staged? If so, for what reason? What would Bush have to gain from such an encounter? Did he have the speech planned out after the event?

publicity stunt?

On December 15 2008 11:27 The Storyteller wrote:
I think he kinda missed the significance of the gesture. If I'm not mistaken, the two biggest insults in Middle Eastern culture are to call someone a dog (many Muslims consider dogs to be unclean) and to show someone the soles of your feet (it's like saying you're walking all over them with contempt). It's in no way similar to showing someone the middle finger while driving. I think Bush should at least have acknowledged the depth of the insults... maybe said something along the lines of understanding that he must have serious grievances to do something so insulting, yet he was appreciative that in this era of free speech and democracy in Iraq, it was handled in a relatively non-violent and non-threatening way. Just shrugging it off may not go down well with Iraqis and other Middle Easterners watching the incident.

On December 15 2008 11:27 The Storyteller wrote:
I think he kinda missed the significance of the gesture. If I'm not mistaken, the two biggest insults in Middle Eastern culture are to call someone a dog (many Muslims consider dogs to be unclean) and to show someone the soles of your feet (it's like saying you're walking all over them with contempt). It's in no way similar to showing someone the middle finger while driving. I think Bush should at least have acknowledged the depth of the insults... maybe said something along the lines of understanding that he must have serious grievances to do something so insulting, yet he was appreciative that in this era of free speech and democracy in Iraq, it was handled in a relatively non-violent and non-threatening way. Just shrugging it off may not go down well with Iraqis and other Middle Easterners watching the incident.

On December 15 2008 23:49 SnowFantasy wrote:
Yeah, I guess you could argue the reaction on the first dodge made it look staged but the second dodge makes it look like it was definitely unexpected.

The charity group, Wa Attassimou, also urged the Iraqi government to release Mr. Zaidi.

The group recognized Mr. Zaidi “because what he did represents a victory for human rights across the world,” it said in a statement.

On December 16 2008 09:25 KizZBG wrote:
from b3ta again:

On December 16 2008 09:27 davidgurt wrote:
how's this one

The BBC Wrote:
The brother of the Iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at US President George W Bush has said that the reporter has been beaten in custody.

Muntadar al-Zaidi has allegedly suffered a broken arm, broken ribs and internal bleeding, his older brother, Dargham, told the BBC.

Mr Zaidi threw his shoes at Mr Bush at a news conference, calling him "a dog".

A spokesperson for the Iraqi military says the journalist is in good health and said the allegations were untrue.

It is unclear whether the reporter may have been injured when he was wrestled to the floor at the news conference, or at a later point.

The head of Iraq's journalists' union has asked the government for clemency towards the journalist who is still in custody.

A spokesman for Iraq's High Judicial Council said that Mr Zaidi, accompanied by defence and prosecution lawyers, had been brought before the investigating judge, Reuters news agency reported.

Abdul Satar Birqadr said Mr Zaidi had been charged with aggression against a president.

"He admits the action he carried out," the news agency quoted Mr Birqadr as saying.

Earlier, Dargham al-Zaidi told the BBC's Caroline Wyatt in Baghdad he believed his brother had been taken to a US military hospital in the Iraqi capital.

Hero figure

A second day of rallies in support of Mr Zaidi were held across Iraq, calling for his release.

Meanwhile, offers to buy the shoes he threw are being made around the Arab world, reports say.

Mr Zaidi told our correspondent that despite offers from many lawyers his brother has not been given access to a legal representative since being arrested by forces under the command of Mowaffaq al-Rubaie, Iraq's national security adviser.

The Iraqi authorities have said the 28-year-old will be prosecuted under Iraqi law.

Iraqi lawyers had earlier speculated that the charges could include insulting a foreign leader and the Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri Maliki, who was standing next to President Bush during the incident.

The offence carries a maximum penalty of two years in jail.

Our correspondent says that the previously little-known journalist from the private Cairo-based al-Baghdadia TV has become a hero to many, not just in Iraq but across the Arab world, for what many saw as a fitting send-off for a deeply unpopular US president.

As he flung the shoes, Mr Zaidi shouted: "This is a goodbye kiss from the Iraqi people, dog."

Dargham al-Zaidi told the BBC that his brother deliberately bought Iraqi-made shoes, which were dark brown with laces. They were bought from a shop on al-Khyam street, a well-known shopping street in central Baghdad.

However, not everyone in Iraq has been supportive of the journalist's action.

Speaking earlier in Baghdad, Mouyyad al-Lami described Mr Zaidi's action as "strange and unprofessional", but urged Mr Maliki to show compassion.

"Even if he has made a mistake, the government and the judiciary are broad-minded and we hope they consider his release because he has a family and he is still young," he told the Associated Press news agency.

"We hope this case ends before going to court."

Abducted by insurgents

The shoes themselves are said to have attracted bids from around the Arab world.

According to unconfirmed newspaper reports, the former coach of the Iraqi national football team, Adnan Hamad, has offered $100,000 (£65,000) for the shoes, while a Saudi citizen has apparently offered $10m (£6.5m).

The daughter of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, Aicha, said her charity would honour the reporter with a medal of courage, saying his action was a "victory for human rights".

The charity called on the media to support Mr Zaidi and put pressure on the Iraqi government to free him.

Mr Zaidi, who lives in Baghdad, has worked for al-Baghdadia for three years.

Muzhir al-Khafaji, programming director for the channel, described him as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man".

He said that Mr Zaidi was a graduate of communications from Baghdad University.

"He has no ties with the former regime. His family was arrested under Saddam's regime," he said.

Mr Zaidi has previously been abducted by insurgents and held twice for questioning by US forces in Iraq.

In November 2007 he was kidnapped by a gang on his way to work in central Baghdad and released three days later without a ransom.

He said at the time that the kidnappers had beaten him until he lost consciousness, and used his necktie to blindfold him.

Mr Zaidi never learned the identity of his kidnappers, who questioned him about his work before letting him go.

On December 17 2008 12:25 Kwark wrote:
Either he thinks throwing shoes will change the world in which case he's an idiot or he thinks it won't change anything but it's still a good idea in which case he's an idiot.

On December 17 2008 15:04 MYM.Testie wrote:


o_O)?

On December 17 2008 15:48 IzzyCraft wrote:
You know i wonder where the people get all the American symbols to burn like hats and flags who makes those for them?

On December 17 2008 15:48 Kwark wrote:

If he's throwing shoes because he thinks it's cool to be disrespectful to Bush then he's an idiot. If on the other hand he's throwing shoes as part of a genuine attempt to express his discontent with US foreign policy and lobby for change then again, wtf, shoes? Idiot. He's not achieved anything and he was never going to. It was an utterly pointless act and therefore I can only conclude that the man in question is an idiot.

On December 17 2008 16:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


Showing the sole's of one's shoe is a sign of disrespect in the Arab world. That is why he threw his shoes.