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SirGlinG
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden933 Posts
December 12 2008 01:55 GMT
#41
now we can understand women, yes...?
Not my chair. Not my problem. That's what I say
Smokin_Squirrel
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Korea (South)674 Posts
December 12 2008 02:00 GMT
#42
This is mindblowing.
Running is the essence of battle
Krohm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1857 Posts
December 12 2008 02:00 GMT
#43
On December 12 2008 10:55 SirGlinG wrote:
now we can understand women, yes...?

That's impossible.


But no I'd really like to see where this technology goes within the next 10-20 years. Maybe they'll be capable of mapping out a persons dreams. I think that would be very interesting to see. I for one, can never remember my dreams, unless I write them down as soon as I wake up. I think I've only had 2 very vivid dreams in my life.
Not bad for a cat toy.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
December 12 2008 02:00 GMT
#44
On December 12 2008 10:34 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2008 10:32 Spike wrote:
On December 12 2008 10:31 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On December 12 2008 10:27 Spike wrote:
On December 12 2008 10:26 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On December 12 2008 10:25 FzeroXx wrote:
On December 12 2008 10:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Are we suppose to be happy about this accomplishment? Seriously, science has a fucking limit...


You're okay with the LHC, but scared about this? Eyescan technology, implanted electronics, etc.. All that shit is already out there. I wouldn't worry too much.
I'm not worried about this, I just think its an area Science should not go.

so you are worried...
has anyone confirmed if the article is real?
You are fucking dumb. There is a difference between "they're gonna read my mind man!" or some kind of worry, and saying "hey, thats kind of creepy...boundaries".

calm down lol
and yea, you're worried; never said you were paranoid.
No, I am not, learn to comprehend English.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/worried



ROFL see what happens when you come off as a giant dickhead to people? SELF OWNED! but don't "worry" we'll get over it.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-12 02:04:25
December 12 2008 02:03 GMT
#45
On December 12 2008 10:54 crazie-penguin wrote:
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On December 12 2008 10:52 SonuvBob wrote:
On December 12 2008 10:51 crazie-penguin wrote:
this opens doors to implanting stuff into the brain too right?

No.

I was thinking along the lines of like reading and writing, i know zero (well im taking psych right now, so maybe i know A LITTLE ) about neuroscience. But, why not?

I don't know much either, but judging from the OP writing would involve changing blood flow in specific places in a specific way, which doesn't sound very plausible, whereas reading it is pretty easy (the hard part for that is knowing where to look and how to interpret it, which seems to be the breakthrough here).
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ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
December 12 2008 02:08 GMT
#46
wowow that is awesome

i love shit like this.
eventually record dreams o.0 wow sweet.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-12 02:16:50
December 12 2008 02:15 GMT
#47
Wtf I could have sworn this was in the wrong forum T_T
Nevermind this post.
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Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
December 12 2008 02:16 GMT
#48
Oh damn... They will plant probes in our brains and be able to see anything we do. AHH REVOLUTION! WE MUST STOP THEM.
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brjdrb
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States577 Posts
December 12 2008 02:49 GMT
#49
i don't see what the huge deal is here....it's common sense. they're reading the reaction of the brain (by blood flow to which areas, how much, etc). the brain reacts a certain way to an "A". all the computer is doing is seeing what the reaction of the brain is to that and printing out that shown image when it sees that reaction again. the only interesting thing here is the accuracy needed for the data.

the main problem with this is that the comp learns by seeing the reaction of the brain. the most straightforward way of teaching the computer is to show it everything that the brain would react to, and so it can interpret anything the brain "experiences". now obviously that's impossible, it would take ages to show a brain every possible stimuli. it stands to reason that there will be similarities b/n stimuli...we all make connections between objects. case in point - i'm sure a certain song will remind u of something, like a song can remind u of a dance u had with a girl or something along those lines. the brain will react not only to the song, but also the memory of that event that the song reminds you of. so, the problem is differentiating b/n these two different brain reactions. and then of course one has to consider that the connections in everyone's brain is different. no two ppl have the same brain. true, the letter "A" will probably incite a very similar neural response b/n any two ppl, but will it be similar enough for the computer to determine that both ppl are seeing an "A"? only time will tell.

personally, i'm not sure i agree with the advancement of this technology. sure, it'd be nice to see exactly what an artist does, but if this is used on witnesses for a crime, i can see problems arising. nobody's memory is perfect, and how would one tell if what the brain is "seeing" from a memory is actually what occurred, or if it's partial truth mixed with imagination? if the brain itself doesn't know if it's lying, would those centers of the brain that are associated with lying show any activity?

as for this technology being used to force an image into someone's head; this has nothing to do with that. to do so one would have to incite the exact same activity in the brain as would have occurred if they had actually seen that image...which isn't exactly possible with current technology. so at least we don't have to worry about that
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Faronel
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States658 Posts
December 12 2008 03:22 GMT
#50
I'm not sure that you comprehend,brjdrb, the mind-blowing awesomeness of somehow converting the brain's signals into digital outputs... I think this would be a great lie detector of sorts.
C'est la vie...
ktp
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States797 Posts
December 12 2008 03:29 GMT
#51
the abolition of man
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 12 2008 03:36 GMT
#52
On December 12 2008 10:25 FzeroXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2008 10:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Are we suppose to be happy about this accomplishment? Seriously, science has a fucking limit...


You're okay with the LHC, but scared about this? Eyescan technology, implanted electronics, etc.. All that shit is already out there. I wouldn't worry too much.

you're not okay with the lhc and you're posting in a science related thread?
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liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
December 12 2008 03:36 GMT
#53
haha... finally my dream of napping for money...
i can just sell my dreams
hehehe
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srry to all those women i know that appear in said dreams
I feel like pwning noobs
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 12 2008 04:03 GMT
#54
Soon, we will have the matrix =D
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
December 12 2008 04:10 GMT
#55
so they will scientifically read whats on the artists minds and what makes them special? that kills imo the whole concept of an artist,
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
December 12 2008 04:21 GMT
#56
This is amazing and i dont understand why some of you are "worried" about this, its not like they made a new kind of bomb.
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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
December 12 2008 04:38 GMT
#57
at last my Protoss brethren! we will have the psi-link we've all been waiting for....

No seriously, if this shit comes to pass that we can record our dreams.. every living and dead hot celebrity will have a fucking scandal with each one of us...

This will be the new era.. every single movie in hollywood would be sucking balls because our dreams have better action packed films in them...

Non-addicts can now relate to the crack/meth addicts since they can show what they been hallucinating about..

This is the new world.. This is the new YouTube!
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Oddysay
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada597 Posts
December 12 2008 04:45 GMT
#58
On December 12 2008 10:55 SirGlinG wrote:
now we can understand women, yes...?


not sure but i think they need brain for this to work , so no .
pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
December 12 2008 05:18 GMT
#59
Now people will know how often I think about having sex with the women around me. This can only lead to bad things =).
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zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
December 12 2008 05:26 GMT
#60
Incredible. Looking at those letters gives me goosebumps..
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