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IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
December 12 2008 07:07 GMT
#81
On December 12 2008 14:30 RoieTRS wrote:
Ever think that maybe science advances too much?

You know Ted Kaczynski thought that too.
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
uT)Drebin
Profile Joined November 2008
United States42 Posts
December 12 2008 07:09 GMT
#82
science is going to far
One who never quits can never be defeated.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28909 Posts
December 12 2008 07:25 GMT
#83
shiit this is huge

not too surprised tho, I remember reading a couple years ago some prediction stating it would be possible to like, upload brain content to an external harddrive within 15-20 years or something. this is a big step along that route. ;p
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28909 Posts
December 12 2008 07:25 GMT
#84
and its obviously dangerous in what it can enable the government to do
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clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
December 12 2008 07:26 GMT
#85
Wow, technology just keeps getting better and better.
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 12 2008 08:05 GMT
#86
Distance between my upper jaw and lower jaw before I read this:
|---------|

After I read this:
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
sqwert
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States781 Posts
December 12 2008 08:16 GMT
#87
sweet maybe itll work without having to be asleep.
if everythings coming your way, youre in the wrong lane. sAviOr 4evar!
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
December 12 2008 08:34 GMT
#88
On December 12 2008 16:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
and its obviously dangerous in what it can enable the government to do


Yeah, all of this shit is amazing but it's gonna be disgusting if there's somebody who wants to abuse such things like this.
^-^
MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
December 12 2008 08:36 GMT
#89
wow this is so fucking cool.
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Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-12 19:17:25
December 12 2008 19:15 GMT
#90
On December 12 2008 15:38 Not_Computer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2008 10:03 rushz0rz wrote:
hmmm can they force images into our head? that'd be pretty scary...


Chaos;Head ftw

LOL good, i wasn't the only one thinking this.

Btw, this is amazing, looking forward to what else the future has in store.
We see things they'll never see
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
December 12 2008 19:22 GMT
#91
i would give at least half of my lifetime if i could rewatch my best dreams whenever i want
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ilovehnk
Profile Joined October 2008
475 Posts
December 12 2008 19:26 GMT
#92
lol
Hikou Shinketsushuu
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
December 12 2008 19:29 GMT
#93
On December 12 2008 14:42 Catyoul wrote:
Holy crap.
The article is for real btw, here's the link for the abstract in the journal : http://www.cell.com/neuron/abstract/S0896-6273(08)00958-6
I don't know this journal, but it has a pretty high impact factor, so it must be a reference in the field. There's still a long way to go, but what they have already achieved is pretty amazing.


Cell, along with Nature and Science is one of the main scientific journals in the world (I'm a bachelor biochemistry and a master biology).

That said, as told by other, yes this is real. And yes, this is also far, far away from implanting images in someone's mind or even reading's someone's mind.

To try and explain how this works a bit. The brain is divided into parts, where each part has it's own ability. This goes for big parts, like the visual cortex, which obviously regulates sight, as well as for small parts. fMRI (functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging) allows someone to look at blood flow in the brains. When a region becomes active more blood will flow to that region. Now that fMRI has become more and more advanced it allows you to look at increasingly smaller parts of the brain. That is why right now it is able to differentiate between the blood flow that occurs when looking at the letter A as compared to when looking at the letter I. This is ofcourse far far away from mind-reading or even understanding more complex thoughts or dreams.

That doesn't mean ofcourse that this isn't a huge scientific breakthrough.
gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
December 13 2008 06:41 GMT
#94
On December 12 2008 14:30 RoieTRS wrote:
Ever think that maybe science advances too much?


Moot point. Scientific advancement is one of those things that once they happen, they can't be undone. Look at human rights, democracy, concept of "capitalism," nuclear bomb. In retrospect we may like or dislike them, but from a completely historic, non-normative standpoint, once they happen, they happen. To try to cover the idea up afterwards is probably going to be extremely difficult and end in failure.
TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
December 13 2008 07:07 GMT
#95
and you all laughed at me and my tin foil hat
Dwell
Qwertify
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2531 Posts
December 13 2008 07:20 GMT
#96
haha
CJ Entusman #24
OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
December 13 2008 10:06 GMT
#97
On December 12 2008 10:31 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2008 10:27 Spike wrote:
On December 12 2008 10:26 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On December 12 2008 10:25 FzeroXx wrote:
On December 12 2008 10:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Are we suppose to be happy about this accomplishment? Seriously, science has a fucking limit...


You're okay with the LHC, but scared about this? Eyescan technology, implanted electronics, etc.. All that shit is already out there. I wouldn't worry too much.
I'm not worried about this, I just think its an area Science should not go.

so you are worried...
has anyone confirmed if the article is real?
You are fucking dumb. There is a difference between "they're gonna read my mind man!" or some kind of worry, and saying "hey, thats kind of creepy...boundaries".


why does it even matter. it's not like they will force people to sit down so they can poke around in their thoughts.


OR WILL THEY???O_O
Honor would be taking it up the ass and curing all diseases, damn how stupid can people get. -baal http://puertoricanbw.ytmnd.com/
OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
December 13 2008 10:07 GMT
#98
On December 12 2008 16:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
and its obviously dangerous in what it can enable the government to do



assuming they could go further with this to read thoughts...it would be a great alternative to torture...although it would cause tons of issues too haha
Honor would be taking it up the ass and curing all diseases, damn how stupid can people get. -baal http://puertoricanbw.ytmnd.com/
Kaotu
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States986 Posts
December 15 2008 02:54 GMT
#99
There's no US science journal called "Neuron", and the claims of this article are unclear (as are most of the comments posted here).

Here's some more sources to get a better handle on what the information that spawned this blog post:

The Japanese researcher in question's academic site:
http://www.cns.atr.jp/~kmtn/

There are links there to various popular media outlets talking about some of this research. There are also links to PDFs of some of his published work, should you have the technical knowledge to understand any of it.

I'm still not sure what this original post is claiming. If anyone feels enlightened, let me know.
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-15 03:04:31
December 15 2008 03:04 GMT
#100
this is sweet. soon you can go somewhere and extract memory photos ! (or videos)
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