yes. Since its obvious that china>>>>>>>>>>>>>japan and anything overall in MA movies.
China action cinema is epic.

and this film has sammo hung coreographing or something right? Epic.
I actually torrented this film but havent watched it yet :p

Also there was some talking about MMA vs other styles right?
Of course a wrestler or a boxer or a judoka won't beat a MMA champion? Why?
Wrestrels only grab each other and stuff right?
Boxers only hit, they don't grab, or even use their feet (except kickboxing)
Judokas just throw each other around right?
Ofc its not all THAT simple, but thats just the way it is.

Also kungfu nowadays is just an exhibition sport or something right?
And its actually called wushu.

And i have to add that the best fighters are those who actually don't get theirselves into fights

TonyL2

England1953 Posts

January 17 2009 20:22 GMT

#204

Finally saw this film after it took an age to get from rapidshare (cantonese version much better that's why.)

I really enjoyed it, although I agree this China vs Japan is all too common it was still amazing none the less

Sequel in late 2010 looks promising especially since it focuses more on his pupils including Bruce Lee

jackhoffer

Korea (South)4 Posts

January 17 2009 20:34 GMT

#205

this was such a great movie!! didn't know wing chun could look so awesome in a kung-fu movie.

MuR)Ernu

Finland768 Posts

January 17 2009 22:20 GMT

#206

ok i totally watched it now.
It kicks total ass.

deathgod6

United States5064 Posts

January 17 2009 23:37 GMT

#207

omg my dl is going so slow. =( how long does it normally take to torrent this movie?

MuR)Ernu

Finland768 Posts

January 18 2009 00:48 GMT

#208

On January 18 2009 08:37 deathgod6 wrote:
omg my dl is going so slow. =( how long does it normally take to torrent this movie?

I think i downloaded it in 1 day or something, not sure. It could have been 2 days.
It was a slow torrent though.

I also realised that in this thread they were talking about china vs japan... i thought it meant china vs japan in terms of who makes better movies lol =D
Anyway its just a movie. If an american film has middle easterns, they are usually hated for being terrorists or something (not sure though)
Or like russians or something.
Its just the way it is.

And japanese did do some bad stuff back then to china i may assume, so it's okay to portray it in a film, from a chinese point of view.

haduken

Australia8267 Posts

January 18 2009 01:16 GMT

#209

What i would really like to see is a pure martial arts movie without the nationalistic crap.
The Wuxia novels does this really well so i don't see how they can't at least replicate this on the screen.

martial arts should be about adversaries. The fighter vs the fighter and the strive to be the ultimate fighter. Films like this feels like a video game when the Japanese is the grunt and in the end you defeat some mega Japanese boss.

How about they develop some depth on the Villains.

MuR)Ernu

Finland768 Posts

January 19 2009 09:44 GMT

#210

Haduken, that would be cool.
They could do a movie about a tournament where the top of each martial art come to compete or something.

But i quess if its only martial arts, there is not enough drama, or comedy or anything. Just martial arts.

They could create drama around the martial arts training and life and that type of things though.

rei

United States3594 Posts

May 05 2010 02:55 GMT

#211

2nd movie is out

WARNING:
by mani

On January 15 2009 13:26 Manifesto7 wrote:
Next person to post about some stupid martial arts debate rather than the movie gets my super-titanium-axe-ban-to-the-face maneuver, handed down to me by my scottish forefathers, holders of the silent light gleaming path monkey brain kilt fighting book.

I can't wait to see the movie, but it will never come out here

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On January 08 2009 03:33 rei wrote:
Baal's debate taught me a lesson, whether you are right or wrong, you need not to be condescending toward each other. Go make an MMA tread and go to town with it, this is a movie,

like myself many people are offended by baal when he bashed Martial arts other than the ones they use in MMA. I'm Chinese, I am well educated in Chinese version of history in China. When someone trash my national hero, of course I feel anger, it's a natural reaction. But all you really need to do is point out the logical mistakes like I did, there is no need to be condescending.

I was warn by plexa in my heated debate with baal that i was being too condescending, which i am totally agree. and I have already apologized to Baal via pm.

Right or wrong, give each other respect, even enemies that are fighting a war against each other gives each other respect why shouldn't we?

We should acknowledge that Baal is right about MMA, Kickboxing welting and bjj are favored under rules of MMA.

and Baal you should also acknowledge history, even if you don't belief martial art from China is useful in the modern age, traditional martial arts(any form of combat skill, eastern and western) have been used world wide as the only means of defense until guns came along, nothing you can say is going to erase this historical fact

let's be honest with ourselves, we are bunch of people who don't have a good understand of the arts of combat, we are talking about something we see and we read about, not something we do everyday for a living. And if one of you do this for a living you won't be debating with us, it would be a serious waste of your time trying to enlighten some one over the internet, because you understand that whatever you say would not matter in their minds without proving to them that you are the authority.

Let us just drop this whole thing in this thread, this is a thread about Ip Man the movie, not about MMA > Chinese national hero. Make your own thread if you insist in debating this.

Plexa will seriously start banning, even I get a warning considering i'm one of the first members of TL.net. So drop it and be civilized

PS mani PPStream has the movie