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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32149 Posts
October 23 2008 19:42 GMT
#21
I think the real question here is, why the hell do you let ants just walk all over your house? You some kinda PETA-freak?? Fucking hippie.
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vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
October 23 2008 19:44 GMT
#22
you have two banned accounts

RAPIST: stop punishing rape you guys it's not getting anyone anywhere
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
October 23 2008 19:45 GMT
#23
you have a problem right there if you see all your users as possible ants waiting to be crushed
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Fumanchu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada669 Posts
October 23 2008 19:49 GMT
#24
On October 24 2008 04:44 vGl-CoW wrote:
you have two banned accounts

RAPIST: stop punishing rape you guys it's not getting anyone anywhere


i have two? i thought i had only the one Obesitar. i agree with the ban btw, i stepped out of line.

ya you guys are right, about the weeding out and all that other stuff. it seemed like a good argument at the time when i wrote it, but after reading everyone's comments, and re-reading my own, it seems like a pretty stupid question, with the answer being quite clear.
Easy doesnt fit into grownup life.
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-23 19:51:43
October 23 2008 19:50 GMT
#25
Well just compare TL.net to all other starcraft sites and the answer is obvious. Banning works and prevents us from becoming X17.
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
October 23 2008 19:51 GMT
#26
Dude its the internet
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
October 23 2008 19:57 GMT
#27
On October 24 2008 04:51 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Dude its the internet


that was deep.
Happiness only real when shared.
Archon_Wing
Profile Joined May 2004
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-23 20:08:20
October 23 2008 20:05 GMT
#28
so do you think banning is pointless? or is it more like an ant that crawls into your house, and even though you know theres a hundred more ants that are going to find their way in, you crush that ant because it ticked you off for being such a cocky dink.

Banning would be like getting rid of ants because if you know if you don't, your place will be infested with ants. Just because others will make it in doesn't mean you don't do anything about it.

There's obvious reasons to ban people. These include people who post scams, viruses, and disgusting photos. Given that this is the internet, that kind of crap shows up a lot, and moderation shields our eyes and our computers. Other issues like excessive spamming and flaming, just isn't needed here.

Also, if someone decides to circumvent a ban, it really reflects more onto them then it does onto the people that banned him/her. I mean, if it's just a site on the internet; why would one be so desperate to come back especially just to shit it up again? And a banee could still just read instead of posting garbage.

Anyhow, a community has certain standards, and if someone isn't willing to adhere to them, then why remain part of the community? Ultimately, it saves everyone's time.
Nothing witty here atm
Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
October 23 2008 20:09 GMT
#29
Well you see, teamliquid is sort of a charity, they provide gosugamers with members.
If it wasnt for TLs strict policy, we wouldnt have had a tl vs gg.net match, and I wouldnt have laughed my ass off of the poor but brilliant klazart impersonator.

Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
October 23 2008 20:14 GMT
#30
On October 24 2008 04:44 vGl-CoW wrote:
you have two banned accounts

RAPIST: stop punishing rape you guys it's not getting anyone anywhere

The penile system is actually largely ineffective. That is, incarceration. You basically either need to rehabilitate criminals, or kill them if you don't want them to commit crimes anymore.

That said, IP ban is pretty much the TL equivalent of capital punishment, and capital punishment is a very good deterrent for most crimes (as well as in keeping the site clean).
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 23 2008 20:17 GMT
#31
On October 24 2008 04:50 Eatme wrote:
Well just compare TL.net to all other starcraft sites and the answer is obvious. Banning works and prevents us from becoming X17.


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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
October 23 2008 20:17 GMT
#32
I ban out of spite, you're right.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 23 2008 20:19 GMT
#33
its required because a lot of people can just spam the shit out of the place with almost no goods, wtf am i talking about, with NO goods, not almost, that comes out of it. theres a lot of forums that dont ban, theyll warn and shit like that but wont ban. imagine the world with a lot of trash, if it wasnt picked up, wouldnt disease evolve from it?
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-23 20:26:24
October 23 2008 20:22 GMT
#34
On October 24 2008 05:14 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2008 04:44 vGl-CoW wrote:
you have two banned accounts

RAPIST: stop punishing rape you guys it's not getting anyone anywhere

The penile system is actually largely ineffective. That is, incarceration. You basically either need to rehabilitate criminals, or kill them if you don't want them to commit crimes anymore.

That said, IP ban is pretty much the TL equivalent of capital punishment, and capital punishment is a very good deterrent for most crimes (as well as in keeping the site clean).


Laws don't mean anything if you don't enforce them.

And you'd be surprised how much most people's behavior is based on the laws that are in effect and the opinion of others. Only like 1% of all people actually act on universal principles. Stop banning people and not only the otherwise banned people flood the site with a lot of crap, a HUGE amount of other posters who would normally not post crap would do so immediately.

Though this is all just a positive side effect, in the end we can think morally so therefore we should punish morally wrong behavior.
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
October 23 2008 20:24 GMT
#35
Is punishing criminals and hooligans worth it? =\
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
October 23 2008 20:26 GMT
#36
On October 24 2008 05:14 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2008 04:44 vGl-CoW wrote:
you have two banned accounts

RAPIST: stop punishing rape you guys it's not getting anyone anywhere

The penile system is actually largely ineffective. That is, incarceration. You basically either need to rehabilitate criminals, or kill them if you don't want them to commit crimes anymore.

Why not keep them locked up? If there is a shortage of prisons, then build some more prisons...
ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-23 20:26:59
October 23 2008 20:26 GMT
#37
without banning Teamliquid commandment #10 would not be possible


10. THOU SHALL HAVE FUN

It's a fun site with fun people. Have fun with it. Enjoy it. Make others happy. Be happy. Avoid being negative. We don't expect you to be Pollyanna, but users who are consistently negative will draw the ire of their peers and site staff alike. No one likes people who have nothing but bad things to say all the time. Heed the admonition of Oscar Wilde: some people bring happiness wherever they go, others whenever they go.


remember nobody likes a spoil sport =(
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
October 23 2008 20:27 GMT
#38
Most of the benefits derived by visiting this site is available to people without an account.

Locking down ability to watch live SC, read recaps, use the calendar, use TLPD, etc. would make bans hurt much more and get more people to register instead of lurk, increasing the chances they eventually post.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
October 23 2008 20:50 GMT
#39
On October 24 2008 05:27 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Most of the benefits derived by visiting this site is available to people without an account.

Locking down ability to watch live SC, read recaps, use the calendar, use TLPD, etc. would make bans hurt much more and get more people to register instead of lurk, increasing the chances they eventually post.

It doesn't change the fact that TL's forums are much better than pretty much any other forums out there, threads that are complete shit tend to get closed fairly promptly and disrespectful posters get what is coming to them.

I remember when that one guy got banned for making fun of pubbanana's dog dying, imo very justified ban right there. Most forums just aren't that good about banning.

TL is also the only forum I've been to where people post "In before close."
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CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
October 23 2008 21:27 GMT
#40
On October 24 2008 04:04 Kwark wrote:
The moderation weeds out the people who have nothing to contribute but feel like doing it anyway

Well not very well, because I'm still here, aren't I? But as to the main argument, its hard to argue that bans don't help a forum.

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What did Dino do? All I know is that he's a foreigner accused of hacking. What did he do to get so much hate? Based on the TL crowd disliking him, I have no doubt its something bad, but can someone explain the story behind it?
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