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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:00 Kennigit wrote: great news; u guys ever thought of allowing characters back on that same note? the swarm of lurkers and smurfs makes me uneasy, I can't keep up with who is who lately..Note that we now have 30 and 90 Day bans so permanents will probably decrease significantly. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:06 Physician wrote: I don't think anyone cangreat news; u guys ever thought of allowing characters back on that same note? the swarm of lurkers and smurfs makes me uneasy, I can't keep up with who is who lately.. | ||
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Dknight
United States5224 Posts
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KaasZerg
Netherlands927 Posts
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Empyrean
17069 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:20 KaasZerg wrote: Look at the site with 80% retarded threads. GG.net Totally worth it. There are only a few bans I don't understand. Puerto Rican's ban for example. I asume there are a lot of things going on I am not aware of so I don't complain. Good. It should stay that way. (shifty eyes) | ||
Chill
Calgary26001 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:20 KaasZerg wrote: Look at the site with 80% retarded threads. GG.net Totally worth it. There are only a few bans I don't understand. Puerto Rican's ban for example. I asume there are a lot of things going on I am not aware of so I don't complain. I would hope that you would trust us. PuertoRican's ban is more than justified. | ||
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KwarK
United States44113 Posts
On October 25 2008 01:58 Physician wrote: It is actually not your house and there is very little "we" going on when it comes to banning. Actually I think it a tribute to the sense of community which tl creates that I do view it as something of which I am a part. You may not, but don't project your sense of isolation and hostility here onto others. | ||
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XCetron
5226 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:35 Chill wrote: I would hope that you would trust us. PuertoRican's ban is more than justified. yes, trust the men in red, they will protect you. | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On October 25 2008 03:04 Kwark wrote: Actually I think it a tribute to the sense of community which tl creates that I do view it as something of which I am a part. You may not, but don't project your sense of isolation and hostility here onto others. I don't argue that we are forum members, or that we have a sense of community, which by the way goes way beyond tl.net - it is after all a drum I have been beating myself many years too - but trust me, it is not your house in the sense of mensrea commandments - every forum member is a guest by definition; as for my sense of "isolation and hostility" - those are ur words, ur opinion and not mine nor do I share them.. projection indeed lol.. | ||
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Kallepettersen
Germany24 Posts
Thats why I got banned like 3 times already, I dont care about postcount and voice my opinion even If I know the majority of users will dislike it. I didnt really flame either. Last ban I called Idra ignorant for thinking pro gamer muta micro is learnable by everyone in 2 days. Even If I had no reason at all other than Idras general attitude to call him ignorant I hardly see anything wrong with it, Its kind of retarded if someone with 5000 posts can run around and behave like an ass and when you name him "ignorant" for a specific thing he said, you get banned. I proceeded to ask Chill if he uses 2 hat mut or 3 hat mut more often nowadays, instead of an answer I got a ban. I didnt really mean it in an offensive way, just was curious cus Chill seems to think 2 hat mut is superior to 3 hat mut so I wanted to know If he already follows his own strategic belief. Others in the same thread called me asshole, a far more serious insult imo, but hey its ok to flame some low post user if the majority dislikes him, nobody got banned for that of course. The account before that I got banned because I told carnac he doesnt have to behave like a nerd, just because he was on a nerd school (I was on the same school, so just trust me when I say its true, its a special school). I didnt just tell him that out of the blue and it also wasnt really meant as an insult, I just posted it because obviously he had been at home watching the euro soccer quarter and semifinal with Germany in front of his conputer, which is just a really nerdy thing to do in Germany, where soccer is sooo big. If I had sucked dick for 2500 posts I could go ahead and flame everyone out of "fun" like Inc or Idra or even Rekrul do, but since I dont care and dont really want to flame senseless I am fine by posting whatever I think is appropriate and getting banned for it over and over again, because some people just cant stand to hear a bit of provocative criticism. | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On October 26 2008 01:34 Kallepettersen wrote: hm I dont really get the concept of banning, especially the extreme forms it has taken on tl.net. Imo a forum is to voice your opinion and read the opinion of others, I dont wanna socialize or "build a reputation" on a damn internet forum. People who judge the content of a post by the postcount of the poster are beyond help anyway imo. Thats why I got banned like 3 times already, I dont care about postcount and voice my opinion even If I know the majority of users will dislike it. I didnt really flame either. Last ban I called Idra ignorant for thinking pro gamer muta micro is learnable by everyone in 2 days. Even If I had no reason at all other than Idras general attitude to call him ignorant I hardly see anything wrong with it, Its kind of retarded if someone with 5000 posts can run around and behave like an ass and when you name him "ignorant" for a specific thing he said, you get banned. I proceeded to ask Chill if he uses 2 hat mut or 3 hat mut more often nowadays, instead of an answer I got a ban. I didnt really mean it in an offensive way, just was curious cus Chill seems to think 2 hat mut is superior to 3 hat mut so I wanted to know If he already follows his own strategic belief. Others in the same thread called me asshole, a far more serious insult imo, but hey its ok to flame some low post user if the majority dislikes him, nobody got banned for that of course. The account before that I got banned because I told carnac he doesnt have to behave like a nerd, just because he was on a nerd school (I was on the same school, so just trust me when I say its true, its a special school). I didnt just tell him that out of the blue and it also wasnt really meant as an insult, I just posted it because obviously he had been at home watching the euro soccer quarter and semifinal with Germany in front of his conputer, which is just a really nerdy thing to do in Germany, where soccer is sooo big. If I had sucked dick for 2500 posts I could go ahead and flame everyone out of "fun" like Inc or Idra or even Rekrul do, but since I dont care and dont really want to flame senseless I am fine by posting whatever I think is appropriate and getting banned for it over and over again, because some people just cant stand to hear a bit of provocative criticism. You were being disrespectful to people first, why do you expect people respect you in return? Choose your words wisely, It has nothing to do with post counts. And don't point your fingers at Inc Idra and Rekrul to whine about it. By the way here is how you should flame if you choose to do so in the future, you provide hard evidence on what you are talking about. Example: Kallepettersen are you are a hypocrite On October 26 2008 01:34 Kallepettersen wrote: I didnt really flame either. On October 26 2008 01:34 Kallepettersen wrote: Last ban I called Idra ignorant The account before that I got banned because I told carnac he doesnt have to behave like a nerd Your hypocrisy knows now bounds my friend. | ||
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XCetron
5226 Posts
On October 26 2008 01:34 Kallepettersen wrote: hm I dont really get the concept of banning, especially the extreme forms it has taken on tl.net. Imo a forum is to voice your opinion and read the opinion of others, I dont wanna socialize or "build a reputation" on a damn internet forum. People who judge the content of a post by the postcount of the poster are beyond help anyway imo. Thats why I got banned like 3 times already, I dont care about postcount and voice my opinion even If I know the majority of users will dislike it. I didnt really flame either. Last ban I called Idra ignorant for thinking pro gamer muta micro is learnable by everyone in 2 days. Even If I had no reason at all other than Idras general attitude to call him ignorant I hardly see anything wrong with it, Its kind of retarded if someone with 5000 posts can run around and behave like an ass and when you name him "ignorant" for a specific thing he said, you get banned. I proceeded to ask Chill if he uses 2 hat mut or 3 hat mut more often nowadays, instead of an answer I got a ban. I didnt really mean it in an offensive way, just was curious cus Chill seems to think 2 hat mut is superior to 3 hat mut so I wanted to know If he already follows his own strategic belief. Others in the same thread called me asshole, a far more serious insult imo, but hey its ok to flame some low post user if the majority dislikes him, nobody got banned for that of course. The account before that I got banned because I told carnac he doesnt have to behave like a nerd, just because he was on a nerd school (I was on the same school, so just trust me when I say its true, its a special school). I didnt just tell him that out of the blue and it also wasnt really meant as an insult, I just posted it because obviously he had been at home watching the euro soccer quarter and semifinal with Germany in front of his conputer, which is just a really nerdy thing to do in Germany, where soccer is sooo big. If I had sucked dick for 2500 posts I could go ahead and flame everyone out of "fun" like Inc or Idra or even Rekrul do, but since I dont care and dont really want to flame senseless I am fine by posting whatever I think is appropriate and getting banned for it over and over again, because some people just cant stand to hear a bit of provocative criticism. hey buddy, I got 4.5k posts and if I start going around being a retard like you I kinda expect to get ban as well. If we follow your belief that the forum is for voicing your opinions and you get banned for it then obviously we don't want your opinion, on three accounts for that matter. The only thing you should judge a post-count by is that "wow this guy made that many comments and havent gotten banned yet, this shows that his posting style is somewhat/perfectly acceptable." Do you go around talking to people in real life just like you do on here? If you do then tell us about the general reaction. | ||
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EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
On October 26 2008 01:34 Kallepettersen wrote: hm I dont really get the concept of banning, especially the extreme forms it has taken on tl.net. Imo a forum is to voice your opinion and read the opinion of others, I dont wanna socialize or "build a reputation" on a damn internet forum. People who judge the content of a post by the postcount of the poster are beyond help anyway imo. Thats why I got banned like 3 times already, I dont care about postcount and voice my opinion even If I know the majority of users will dislike it. I didnt really flame either. Last ban I called Idra ignorant for thinking pro gamer muta micro is learnable by everyone in 2 days. Even If I had no reason at all other than Idras general attitude to call him ignorant I hardly see anything wrong with it, Its kind of retarded if someone with 5000 posts can run around and behave like an ass and when you name him "ignorant" for a specific thing he said, you get banned. I proceeded to ask Chill if he uses 2 hat mut or 3 hat mut more often nowadays, instead of an answer I got a ban. I didnt really mean it in an offensive way, just was curious cus Chill seems to think 2 hat mut is superior to 3 hat mut so I wanted to know If he already follows his own strategic belief. Others in the same thread called me asshole, a far more serious insult imo, but hey its ok to flame some low post user if the majority dislikes him, nobody got banned for that of course. The account before that I got banned because I told carnac he doesnt have to behave like a nerd, just because he was on a nerd school (I was on the same school, so just trust me when I say its true, its a special school). I didnt just tell him that out of the blue and it also wasnt really meant as an insult, I just posted it because obviously he had been at home watching the euro soccer quarter and semifinal with Germany in front of his conputer, which is just a really nerdy thing to do in Germany, where soccer is sooo big. If I had sucked dick for 2500 posts I could go ahead and flame everyone out of "fun" like Inc or Idra or even Rekrul do, but since I dont care and dont really want to flame senseless I am fine by posting whatever I think is appropriate and getting banned for it over and over again, because some people just cant stand to hear a bit of provocative criticism. I think this retard just invented a new euphemism for trolling. | ||
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inlagdsil
Canada957 Posts
On October 25 2008 02:20 KaasZerg wrote: Look at the site with 80% retarded threads. GG.net Totally worth it. There are only a few bans I don't understand. Puerto Rican's ban for example. I asume there are a lot of things going on I am not aware of so I don't complain. Has something to do with taking screenshots of TL and giving them to another site with the intent of embarassing someone (I looked at banlist). I don't know any detail but surely someone here who does will explain it. | ||
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never_jiggy
Australia25 Posts
keep the ban stick strong mods | ||
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riotjune
United States3394 Posts
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Rotodyne
United States2263 Posts
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HeadBangaa
United States6512 Posts
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Arbiter[frolix]
United Kingdom2674 Posts
On October 24 2008 12:48 BlackStar wrote: Main reason they ban people here is to keep your post count low, it seems. I am afraid that that statement is complete nonsense. | ||
LosingID8
CA10832 Posts
On October 25 2008 00:14 niteReloaded wrote: I'd rename this topic into "Is PERMAbanning worth it?". Because tempbanning is perfectly reasonable. However PERMAbanning is like completely 'imbalanced' to put it that way. It doesn't offer a realistic crime-punishment balance. If you draw a parallel between real life and crime punishments, permaban would be a deathpenalty. Now you name me one thing a person can do on TeH internetz that requires this cyber-TL-deathpenalty. He can't kill(ban) anyone else. He can't take any of your possesions. The only possible reason would be if someone insults someone in a very bad bad way. But we see permabans for to petty reasons like a bad thread made. I'd go exclusively with tempbans, preferably with explanations on why a person got the penalty. Then it's a corrective measure which is what bad posters need. your analogy is flawed. permaban is more similar to being exiled from a kingdom, not being put to death. if permaban was the equivalent of the death penalty it would be impossible for banned users to create a new account on this site, and even reform and eventually become decent members of the community. | ||
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