EPTFor those of you who don't know, Frontline is easily one of the best documentary shows in the united states. this is a pretty big deal we're getting recognized from an organization this high ranking. I hope you all tune in and watch it!
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
For those of you who don't know, Frontline is easily one of the best documentary shows in the united states. this is a pretty big deal we're getting recognized from an organization this high ranking. I hope you all tune in and watch it! | ||
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uNiGNoRe
Germany1115 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
for a moment there I thought either a) this was a joke or b) it was actually Tasteless on to Catch a Predator and I wuz like O.O still damn frontline is pretty good, they have good documentaries, also chappelle's show | ||
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3819 Posts
Good luck with that dude! | ||
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MeriaDoKk
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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DrainX
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
 Make sure and talk up the foreign aspect of this game! | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
I'm sure you'll let them know how starcraft isn't just any ordinary video game | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11584 Posts
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ForVengeance
United States111 Posts
So good luck with all of it. | ||
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Retsukage
United States1002 Posts
GL with the interview. | ||
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TryThis
Canada1522 Posts
with SC2 coming out so soon aswell make sure to tell use the air dates! | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14899 Posts
congrats man | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
Tasteless make sure they do a serious documentary or whatever they're doing! | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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SayaSP
Laos5494 Posts
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On October 08 2008 01:13 DrainX wrote: I blame it all on TL mods and Gom! Now starcraft is one step away from mainstream.Its funny how the starcraft scene has been booming so much outside of korea attentionwise the last year or so ._. 10 years after the release. I wonder how much it has to do with sc2 and how much it has to do with the dedicated work of people like the mods on TL and Tasteless etc. Tasteless fighting! | ||
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1904 Posts
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DragoonPK
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dream-_-
United States1857 Posts
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4337 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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HanN00b
Germany1441 Posts
On October 08 2008 02:24 SayaSP wrote: The NatGeo documentary on Xellos wasn't that bad I thought but Tasteless yaaaaa Anyone have this? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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ahrara_
Afghanistan1715 Posts
unless it turns into a video game hatefest good luck tasteless | ||
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FuDDx
United States5008 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25987 Posts
Enjoy that | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
BBC documentary with Savior: The Xellos one: The one with Xellos totally owns! It even features Grrr!! | ||
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Puosu
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gl~!! | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
On October 08 2008 01:25 CaucasianAsian wrote: you better mention team liquid! | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
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St0rmRush
Brazil448 Posts
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Malmis
Sweden1569 Posts
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SirKibbleX
United States479 Posts
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
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gm.tOSS
Germany898 Posts
On October 08 2008 05:55 Not_Computer wrote: :D geez u got so much to talk about, I hope you'll be able to cover it all. Bring up the charity auction event! | ||
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HanN00b
Germany1441 Posts
On October 08 2008 04:14 Zoler wrote: English documantary with Nal_ra: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P39gP4QnXxE&feature=related BBC documentary with Savior: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEWonZ81CVQ&feature=related The Xellos one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN-X4JivB94 The one with Xellos totally owns! It even features Grrr!! Retired progamers are hired to be trained as brokers. LOL (cause of their strategy talent) | ||
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CFDragon
United States304 Posts
 . I think the more publicity that the foreign scene can get the better, because business are more likely to seriously consider something if it's got a worldwide following.Either way, go Tasteless! | ||
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krazymunky
United States727 Posts
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.kaz
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On October 08 2008 08:21 krazymunky wrote: has there been a boxer documentary yet? Not a full one, but if you watch the first video, at the end, in the recommended video's, there is a 3 minute CNN video about Boxer and the same thing as the rest, and about him joining the Air Force. | ||
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tenbagger
United States1289 Posts
OMFG!! My favorite show ever, I think I've seen every episdode over the past 8 or so years. | ||
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Insane Lane
United States397 Posts
So does this mean it will be like... on PBS primetime? | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On October 08 2008 01:25 CaucasianAsian wrote: He would be so dead if he don't and he knows it.you better mention team liquid! | ||
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wurm
Philippines2296 Posts
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anotak
United States1537 Posts
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
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Folca
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KH1031
United States862 Posts
You sock! Make sure to let us know when it will air! I will be sure to tune in! | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1012 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
On October 08 2008 10:45 wurm wrote: Tasteless should mention the CJ Shirts for Charity that tl.net is sponsoring. I don't think Frontline will get this out that fast. | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
I look forward to watching this on PBS. | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
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HyoSang
United States194 Posts
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Fen
Australia1848 Posts
On October 08 2008 13:58 HyoSang wrote: Please dont let them turn this into crap. I see documentaries all the time about progaming and it makes us sound like retards. Sadly, no matter what tasteless says, if thats their goal, theyll do it. And its a goal a lot of documentaries are definately after, because the majority of people watching will respond to the idea of progaming with the whole "omg what a bunch of nerds" reaction. Cater to your audience. For example, look at the Nal_rA one. Basically the voiceover goes on about how bad the lifestyle is for rA while hes sitting there saying he enjoys what he does. That being said however, I dont think we could ask for a better ambassador for esports. I know Tasteless will do a great job representing the scene. | ||
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Insane Lane
United States397 Posts
On October 08 2008 14:27 Fen wrote: Sadly, no matter what tasteless says, if thats their goal, theyll do it. And its a goal a lot of documentaries are definately after, because the majority of people watching will respond to the idea of progaming with the whole "omg what a bunch of nerds" reaction. Cater to your audience. Yeah Frontline probably isn't gonna have the same perspective of the National Geographic documentary, which was amazing. It is catered more towards everyday citizens/adults and less "curious" people about others' lifestyles. | ||
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Roxen000
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HyoSang
United States194 Posts
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SingletonWilliam
United States664 Posts
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Retsukage
United States1002 Posts
On October 08 2008 15:04 HyoSang wrote: Here is a documentary by CNN on Boxer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51fSz1mrHM0 I thought that one did a pretty good job. | ||
cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
Tasteless fighting! | ||
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SnowFantasy
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Not so sure it can be worse than this was. Represent us well. | ||
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Pangolin
United States1035 Posts
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Sanity.
United States704 Posts
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IntoTheWow
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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lilsusie
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.gypsy
Canada689 Posts
On October 08 2008 15:45 SnowFantasy wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_UVl0Dkrgs Not so sure it can be worse than this was. Represent us well. Man I remember watching this on TV, like omg that bitch is so dumb, laughing wowowowowowow gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy =[ I felt lkie punching her in the dick son =[ | ||
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ForVengeance
United States111 Posts
I feel like saying well hey bitch you got giant teeth. Whats your comment or question about that? OK OK so video games are toys, but do you realize you have giant ugly teeth and that your job is to talk on tv and everyone sees those giant teeth all day and never takes you seriously because of it? Comment on that bitch. | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
On October 08 2008 18:11 ForVengeance wrote: You know, i hate to get pissed at stupidity, because its hard for people not to be ignorant of many many things since the world is so big and so much is going on. But when women like this interviewer chick takes a condescending tone like that i feel like punching her in her dumb painted head. Just because i dig Starcraft doesnt mean she has to, but how sleazy is it to act as if video games cant be taken seriously? To me, acting like games are only childrens toys really shows how out of touch you really are. I mean, when is all this "video games arent a sport" joke going to end? Football is a sport but you can play it out in the yard for fun too. So why cant games be something people do for fun but that CAN be taken to the level of pro SC? People really make me feel empty how they get in a certain mindset and never see anything differently. Of course Starcraft is more of an exception than most games but still. Not only was that womans attitude condescending, it was also very disrespectful. It was as if there were no right answers Daniel could give she already had her mind made up that a "game" shouldnt be taken so seriously. I feel like saying well hey bitch you got giant teeth. Whats your comment or question about that? OK OK so video games are toys, but do you realize you have giant ugly teeth and that your job is to talk on tv and everyone sees those giant teeth all day and never takes you seriously because of it? Comment on that bitch. Games aren't really ripe yet for being a mainstream sport. Even in Korea it's mostly for teenagers (just look at the spectators in live matches, it's really mostly kids who watch this after or during school), and they don't only have SC tournaments, no, they also have some boring crap like Kart Rider. Whatever is popular among the teenagers will be used. The game doesn't matter, only the size of the audience. Also I'd say that 90% of 25+ year olds will outgrow SC, so it's not really future-proof, it doesn't stay interesting for long enough. 90% of all progamers are also very young, and the older ones almost all suck these days (very few exceptions). Plus, the game has some bugs (e.g. scarab pathfinding is unreliable) which hurt its credibility as a 100% fair sport (who likes luck elements, however small they may be?). And of course the game company behind it is always trying to push a sequel onto the market. A sport however never changes (well except for a few very minor rule changes maybe). And it's also a closed product which you have to buy and then you have no rights to change it. I'd say it's still a long way before video games become real sports. E-sports is still at very infant stages, it's no wonder that it isn't respected as a true sport yet. Some things must change first. We also simply need BETTER games than the ones which are currently available. None of these games really interest players for a long time. Some like SC, CS or Quake come close enough to be interesting for 10-15 years but that's it. Most become boring and "die" even earlier. And still in every game there are hardcore players demanding that their game should be taken more seriously. | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
There aren't very many good documentaries in the US. Some of the most publicized ones are take alarmist views on issues. | ||
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axel
France385 Posts
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
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HotZhot
Colombia677 Posts
On October 08 2008 01:05 Caller wrote: holy shit for a moment there I thought either a) this was a joke or b) it was actually Tasteless on to Catch a Predator and I wuz like O.O still damn frontline is pretty good, they have good documentaries, also chappelle's show What is this catch a predator? can you elaborate. I don't mean to derail the topic just want to know... | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
On October 08 2008 21:58 HotZhot wrote: What is this catch a predator? can you elaborate. I don't mean to derail the topic just want to know... To catch a predator is a show in which they lure dudes into thinking they will be meeting an underage girl, then when the dude shows up they bust up on the scene and expose his pedophile ass. | ||
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SkatesSC
United States191 Posts
The post only contains 1 part of 5. It was really well done and didn't put a negative spin on it at all. Let's hope frontline does the same. Congrats tasteless, make us look good :D | ||
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meegrean
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EGLzGaMeR
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Tekin
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Ideas
United States8142 Posts
They all still have the stigma that so many older people have that video games are just children toys and a waste of time. | ||
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
i think i'm getting my hopes up though... | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
White powaaa ![[image loading]](http://b9.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00147/97/56/147166579_m.jpg) | ||
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/digitalnation/view/korea.html 25 minute episode on internet addiction, opening 5 minutes does a brief bit on progaming. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/digitalnation/extras/ has a bonus 2 minute clip on the STX training house | ||
GTR
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
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BuGzlToOnl
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a-game
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SpiritoftheTunA
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motbob
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SnowFantasy
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wtf? i didn't expect this at all. | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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SnowFantasy
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under the video that was linked in this thread they have different 'chapters' or whatever. (U.S. Gaming, Internet Addiction?, U.S vs. Korea, Korean e-Sports, Netiquette) etc. they go into detail about sc a little but yeah. the video isn't really about progaming. just internet addictions. | ||
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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a-game
Canada5085 Posts
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/digitalnation/extras/ | ||
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Highways
Australia6105 Posts
Start looked promising. | ||
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geno
United States1404 Posts
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GTR
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On April 15 2009 17:28 Bosu wrote: It's too bad it wasn't a documentary about progaming, but I still think it covered an important issue. Internet/gaming addiction is definitely a real problem. It was very one sided though which is probably why Tasteless wasn't included. I am sure he said mostly good things about how wired South Korea is. | ||
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Ftrunkz
Australia2474 Posts
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
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stanley_
United States816 Posts
On April 15 2009 18:37 MyLostTemple wrote: they had to cancel on me at the last second. they were running out of time. seems like they just switched their angle of their story so it would get more views. Not that they were running out of time. | ||
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
hopefully they won't giv Korean e-sports an evil spin | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
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D00dles
Cambodia217 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
These types of documentaries are always trying to be as shocking as possible. | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14899 Posts
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
Generally what people don't understand is there's a difference between someone who uses their computer/internet 6-16 hours a day, and someone who is addicted to their computer/internet. It's only a bad addiction if it negatively affects your life, and for the majority of people who use their computers a lot, that's just not the case. | ||
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Hammy
France828 Posts
Did they tell you about the focus of the show before the interview was conducted? I mean if they wanted to hear that progaming was some sort of a scheme to lure internet addicts, they should have said so from the start. Maybe they didn't want to hear someone talk so passionately about progaming .edit: nevermind : ) I hadn't seen tastless' update | ||
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Xusneb
Canada612 Posts
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Retsukage
United States1002 Posts
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epicdoom
United States489 Posts
Watching video now though.. edit: Interesting and informative actually, internet addiction may be a problem that America as well may face in the future as we "get wired" ourselves, some of this is actually very sad | ||
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CursOr
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NotSupporting
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Altar
United States577 Posts
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Gumbo
Canada807 Posts
EDIT : I tried on internet explorer and it worked. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21549 Posts
On April 15 2009 17:37 geno wrote: I like how they link to teamliquid for the ELO and Kespa rankings. The ELO system needs more publicity! Haha sick, PBS links to TLPD. PoP will be pleased! | ||
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TanGeng
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