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On August 13 2008 04:06 dancefayedance!~ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2008 04:03 travis wrote:
it wouldn'ttake 5 million years for us to evolve into something different (imo)
evolution in humans is happening faster now than ever
hopefully we stop having so many babies tho i major in evolutionary biology and i can tell you that that isnt happening. im curious as to why you would think it would be happening?
Travis is correct.
Random genetic drift coupled with selective breeding steers our evolution.
Arbitrary human prerogative has great effect.
It was recently discovered that all blue eyed people have a common ancestor who lived near modern Turkey, about 6-10,000 years ago. Considering the current population distribution, blue-eyed people have enjoyed a 5% reproduction advantage compared to non blue-eyed people. I've heard that it's the single most successful trait evolved by homosapiens.
Our cocks guide our evolution now.
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The Australian "peak oil" guy makes me laugh. It's amazing how much each country's media and school system dictates the views of its people. The three people most obsessed with peak oil I've ever met have all been from Australia. At the opposite end, the British media has completely dismissed global warming as a hoax, and so very few of its citizens care about it. The US is kind of in the middle, since we're generally just uninformed.
It's something you kind of expect in countries like Iran and China, but it's kind of shocking the extent that even the top countries' citizens are all but brainwashed by the government and media.
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we live forever none can stand against the human swarm
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On August 13 2008 22:52 HeadBangaa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2008 04:06 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On August 13 2008 04:03 travis wrote:
it wouldn'ttake 5 million years for us to evolve into something different (imo)
evolution in humans is happening faster now than ever
hopefully we stop having so many babies tho i major in evolutionary biology and i can tell you that that isnt happening. im curious as to why you would think it would be happening? Travis is correct. Random genetic drift coupled with selective breeding steers our evolution. Arbitrary human prerogative has great effect. It was recently discovered that all blue eyed people have a common ancestor who lived near modern Turkey, about 6-10,000 years ago. Considering the current population distribution, blue-eyed people have enjoyed a 5% reproduction advantage compared to non blue-eyed people. I've heard that it's the single most successful trait evolved by homosapiens. Our cocks guide our evolution now.
6-10,000 years ago a lot fewer people reached reproductive age though. I think part of the argument was that with our welfare systems etc. almost everyone reaches reproductive age and doing so or not has very little to do with your genes. 10,000 years ago or just 500 years ago there was room for evolutionary pressure in a way that it isn't today. Also random genetic drift only has a substantial effect on small isolated populations.
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On August 13 2008 23:57 LonelyMargarita wrote:
The Australian "peak oil" guy makes me laugh. It's amazing how much each country's media and school system dictates the views of its people. The three people most obsessed with peak oil I've ever met have all been from Australia. At the opposite end, the British media has completely dismissed global warming as a hoax, and so very few of its citizens care about it. The US is kind of in the middle, since we're generally just uninformed.
It's something you kind of expect in countries like Iran and China, but it's kind of shocking the extent that even the top countries' citizens are all but brainwashed by the government and media.
Umm, global warming is in the news all the time and a lot of people in this country are literally fanatical about stopping it.
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On August 14 2008 04:18 jello_biafra wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2008 23:57 LonelyMargarita wrote:
The Australian "peak oil" guy makes me laugh. It's amazing how much each country's media and school system dictates the views of its people. The three people most obsessed with peak oil I've ever met have all been from Australia. At the opposite end, the British media has completely dismissed global warming as a hoax, and so very few of its citizens care about it. The US is kind of in the middle, since we're generally just uninformed.
It's something you kind of expect in countries like Iran and China, but it's kind of shocking the extent that even the top countries' citizens are all but brainwashed by the government and media. Umm, global warming is in the news all the time and a lot of people in this country are literally fanatical about stopping it.
Global warming you say.... What's all this then?
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I think it would be a combination. WWIII or whatever, some assholes start slinging nukes around and kills a good hunk of the population. Chaos ensues, famines, plague, etc and we die off.
Even if it's global warming on a catastrophic level, or a meteor, neither of which will kill us 100%. There's gonna be a few people not fortunate enough to die right away, and will live through the last years of the world in the stone age.
Personally, I'm holding out for the Zombie Apocalypse, so I can assemble the awseome team I named back in the thread I made.
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On August 13 2008 22:52 HeadBangaa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2008 04:06 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On August 13 2008 04:03 travis wrote:
it wouldn'ttake 5 million years for us to evolve into something different (imo)
evolution in humans is happening faster now than ever
hopefully we stop having so many babies tho i major in evolutionary biology and i can tell you that that isnt happening. im curious as to why you would think it would be happening? Travis is correct. Random genetic drift coupled with selective breeding steers our evolution. Arbitrary human prerogative has great effect. It was recently discovered that all blue eyed people have a common ancestor who lived near modern Turkey, about 6-10,000 years ago. Considering the current population distribution, blue-eyed people have enjoyed a 5% reproduction advantage compared to non blue-eyed people. I've heard that it's the single most successful trait evolved by homosapiens. Our cocks guide our evolution now.
Indeed.
The fun thing is that we actually do the opposite that one would expect from us or all animals: the people who have a rather low life standard, low education etc. are the ones who reproduce the most, the ones who are more intelligent get less children and later (or none at all).
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On August 14 2008 02:15 DrainX wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2008 22:52 HeadBangaa wrote:On August 13 2008 04:06 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On August 13 2008 04:03 travis wrote:
it wouldn'ttake 5 million years for us to evolve into something different (imo)
evolution in humans is happening faster now than ever
hopefully we stop having so many babies tho i major in evolutionary biology and i can tell you that that isnt happening. im curious as to why you would think it would be happening? Travis is correct. Random genetic drift coupled with selective breeding steers our evolution. Arbitrary human prerogative has great effect. It was recently discovered that all blue eyed people have a common ancestor who lived near modern Turkey, about 6-10,000 years ago. Considering the current population distribution, blue-eyed people have enjoyed a 5% reproduction advantage compared to non blue-eyed people. I've heard that it's the single most successful trait evolved by homosapiens. Our cocks guide our evolution now. 6-10,000 years ago a lot fewer people reached reproductive age though. I think part of the argument was that with our welfare systems etc. almost everyone reaches reproductive age and doing so or not has very little to do with your genes. 10,000 years ago or just 500 years ago there was room for evolutionary pressure in a way that it isn't today. Also random genetic drift only has a substantial effect on small isolated populations.
drainx is correct
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On August 14 2008 05:03 dancefayedance!~ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2008 02:15 DrainX wrote:On August 13 2008 22:52 HeadBangaa wrote:On August 13 2008 04:06 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On August 13 2008 04:03 travis wrote:
it wouldn'ttake 5 million years for us to evolve into something different (imo)
evolution in humans is happening faster now than ever
hopefully we stop having so many babies tho i major in evolutionary biology and i can tell you that that isnt happening. im curious as to why you would think it would be happening? Travis is correct. Random genetic drift coupled with selective breeding steers our evolution. Arbitrary human prerogative has great effect. It was recently discovered that all blue eyed people have a common ancestor who lived near modern Turkey, about 6-10,000 years ago. Considering the current population distribution, blue-eyed people have enjoyed a 5% reproduction advantage compared to non blue-eyed people. I've heard that it's the single most successful trait evolved by homosapiens. Our cocks guide our evolution now. 6-10,000 years ago a lot fewer people reached reproductive age though. I think part of the argument was that with our welfare systems etc. almost everyone reaches reproductive age and doing so or not has very little to do with your genes. 10,000 years ago or just 500 years ago there was room for evolutionary pressure in a way that it isn't today. Also random genetic drift only has a substantial effect on small isolated populations. drainx is correct
Whenever I read papers on modern anthropology, it clearly indicates that humans are experiencing rapid evolutionary change. You tried to claim that wasn't the case. The blue eyes are just one example.
Also random genetic drift only has a substantial effect on small isolated populations.
If some culture considers it extremely sexy to have, let's say, a large nose, then the large nose people will be more successful in reproducing. It's that simple.
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On August 13 2008 14:01 spetial wrote:
i hate everyone that voted rapture because they are most likely a bunch of ignorant assholes
I voted rapture because i didn't know what the word meant exactly (even tho there's this song called Rapture, by Io or something?) and the translation is really cool in dutch as well. Haha these polls really reflect people's opinions...
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I don't think theres going to be any more natural evolution. Humans will evolve themselves. For example, take cellphones: they are doing everything nowadays (go online, download music, watch tv, communicate). Give it some time and eventually we will be able to integrate similar systems into our bodies, that is to say, we won't have to carry around a cellphone anymore....maybe we'd have a chip implanted into our brain instead. Im not saying that its gonna happen anytime soon, but eventually its inevitable with the increasing pace that our technology is developing at.
Thats what i mean by evolve ourselves, we're going to change ourselves so much that evolution becomes too slow to be relevant. I mean, that in itself is a huge accomplishment of evolution: to develop a being intelligent enough to alter and improve itself.
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On August 13 2008 22:52 HeadBangaa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2008 04:06 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On August 13 2008 04:03 travis wrote:
it wouldn'ttake 5 million years for us to evolve into something different (imo)
evolution in humans is happening faster now than ever
hopefully we stop having so many babies tho i major in evolutionary biology and i can tell you that that isnt happening. im curious as to why you would think it would be happening? Travis is correct. Random genetic drift coupled with selective breeding steers our evolution. Arbitrary human prerogative has great effect. It was recently discovered that all blue eyed people have a common ancestor who lived near modern Turkey, about 6-10,000 years ago. Considering the current population distribution, blue-eyed people have enjoyed a 5% reproduction advantage compared to non blue-eyed people. I've heard that it's the single most successful trait evolved by homosapiens. Our cocks guide our evolution now.
That's funny because I read somewhere that blue eyes are genetically inferior to brown-back eyes, in the sense that they are less prone do outside damage (are more sensitive to strong light and so on). I will try and find some evidence of this (look it up and ask some friends who study medicine). Also, aren't blue eyes far more rare than other kinds? That's why we find them attractive, because they're "special". 
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On August 14 2008 09:25 CubEdIn wrote:Also, aren't blue eyes far more rare than other kinds? That's why we find them attractive, because they're "special".
I think you're oversimplifying human attraction. If being "special" or mutated was attractive in and of itself, why aren't the occasional mutants/retards considered conventionally attractive?
With respect to the blue eyes thing: particular colors are known to evoke specific emotional reactions. It could be that blue is a color which is inherently attractive to the majority of people: potentially a strong heading for evolutionary forces.
As far as dark vs light eyes: blue eyed people tend to have lower levels of melanin, which is actually an advantage in overcast locales; the skin makes more efficient use of the sun for vitamin D production, etc. Darker skin/darker-eyed people have an advantage in tropical and desert climates, because they're more sun resistant.
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That pretty much descibes the weather in most of northern and western Europe where blue eyes are most promenent in the genepool.
Evolution in a lot of societies has less enviromental pressure. We are living sheltered lives. Evolution benefits only the strains that are breeding like rabits. No contraception and abortion or planning. Lack of money doesn't slow most of them down. Ergo the religious and the irresponsible.
I don't like were it is going.
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On August 13 2008 22:52 HeadBangaa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2008 04:06 dancefayedance!~ wrote:On August 13 2008 04:03 travis wrote:
it wouldn'ttake 5 million years for us to evolve into something different (imo)
evolution in humans is happening faster now than ever
hopefully we stop having so many babies tho i major in evolutionary biology and i can tell you that that isnt happening. im curious as to why you would think it would be happening? Travis is correct. Random genetic drift coupled with selective breeding steers our evolution. Arbitrary human prerogative has great effect. It was recently discovered that all blue eyed people have a common ancestor who lived near modern Turkey, about 6-10,000 years ago. Considering the current population distribution, blue-eyed people have enjoyed a 5% reproduction advantage compared to non blue-eyed people. I've heard that it's the single most successful trait evolved by homosapiens. Our cocks guide our evolution now.
Yes asian men will be extinct by the year 2050
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The smart ones will not pass on their genes; the idiots will prevail.
Proof?
Right here.
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Sun goes supernova. GG us fo sho.
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