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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
August 06 2008 15:42 GMT
#41
You aren´t really guaranteed to get a physically identical being. As someone already said, the mitochondria will be different. But more importantly, scientists discovered a whole new field in genetics:

epigenetics

It´s becoming clear nowadays, that factors in the environment of animals and plants can lead to activation or deactivation of some genes. Especially the cloning process itself can have such effects. It´s possible that your cloned dog does turn out differently in the end.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-06 15:48:00
August 06 2008 15:47 GMT
#42
On August 06 2008 20:36 Funchucks wrote:
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On August 06 2008 20:23 Boblion wrote:
That doesnt make me laught. It is a serious ethic problem imo. I mean why should we be allowed to do this with dogs and not with humans ?

Next step: clone you dead children ?

That certainly sounds like an interesting venture.


hahahah, surely i can't be the only person in the thread who got this joke!
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-06 15:53:07
August 06 2008 15:51 GMT
#43
First thing I thought of was the movie The 6th Day with the good ol' Governator playing the lead.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0216216/

Btw, I don't get the venture joke even now that I know it's supposed to mean something more =[ I know what a ventuer is but I don't get the reference here.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44450 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-06 16:36:04
August 06 2008 15:59 GMT
#44
On August 07 2008 00:36 zizou21 wrote:
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On August 07 2008 00:21 Kwark wrote:
One of the more interesting uses of stem cell research is a surprising cure for infertility in men. Basically you give scientists a tooth and they break it open and take some stem cells from inside. They then put these stem cells in the testes of a mouse and wait a while. Then they kill the mouse and harvest your new sperm. Mix it with an egg and viola, the genetic child of an infertile man. Think about how huge the ability to have children is to an infertile man. That's how valuable stem cell research is.


so basically, this is the result

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I imagine they make sure to use human sperm rather than mouse sperm.
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ViRii
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States826 Posts
August 06 2008 16:18 GMT
#45
Here's the real question...

Why clone it five times?

Why not clone it once, and when it dies, clone it again? I guess rational thought is outside her comprehension
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
August 06 2008 16:19 GMT
#46
Epigenetics...
Awesome.

I learn something new everyday.
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Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 06 2008 16:29 GMT
#47
This reminds me of Duncan Idaho. -_-
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-06 16:46:39
August 06 2008 16:46 GMT
#48
On August 07 2008 01:18 ViRii wrote:
Here's the real question...

Why clone it five times?

Why not clone it once, and when it dies, clone it again? I guess rational thought is outside her comprehension

You do not want to wait?

Also you can do a lot of tests on clone dogs so I am sure that they gets an open arms welcome back at the laboratory.
CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-06 16:52:00
August 06 2008 16:51 GMT
#49
dog's like

DO NOT WANT
Pain is temporary, but glory is forever.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
August 06 2008 16:56 GMT
#50
And we only learned about DNA like 50 years ago.
noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
August 06 2008 17:01 GMT
#51
LOL
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On August 06 2008 20:10 zizou21 wrote:
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"When Booger was dying, his eyes locked on mine," McKinney said. "And he told me with his eyes, 'Don't be sad, because I am going to see you again."'


LOL

On August 07 2008 00:41 IntoTheWow wrote:
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On August 06 2008 22:20 itzme_petey wrote:
my god... the koreans now have an unlimited food source. ingenius


lol
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32282 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-06 17:09:58
August 06 2008 17:09 GMT
#52
On August 07 2008 00:42 Maenander wrote:
You aren´t really guaranteed to get a physically identical being. As someone already said, the mitochondria will be different. But more importantly, scientists discovered a whole new field in genetics:

epigenetics

It´s becoming clear nowadays, that factors in the environment of animals and plants can lead to activation or deactivation of some genes. Especially the cloning process itself can have such effects. It´s possible that your cloned dog does turn out differently in the end.


Clone bitches.

more like Epicgenetics am i rite
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intoyourrainbOW
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States168 Posts
August 06 2008 18:03 GMT
#53
uugh.. only white people would do this kind of stuff. the lady must be pretty wealthy, and rich white women like her are the WORST.
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-06 18:19:19
August 06 2008 18:05 GMT
#54
On August 07 2008 03:03 intoyourrainbOW wrote:
uugh.. only white people would do this kind of stuff. the lady must be pretty wealthy, and rich white women like her are the WORST.


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bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
August 06 2008 18:06 GMT
#55
idk about you guys, but my dog is getting old (12-13) and I would love to have another with his genes =/
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
August 06 2008 18:10 GMT
#56
Have your girlfriend give you dog a blowjob. If things go well you may soon have dogmen with your dog's genes.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
August 06 2008 19:02 GMT
#57
On August 06 2008 21:19 LuckyOne wrote:
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On August 06 2008 21:10 Mikilatov wrote:
Eh, I don't see the point of cloning. You can't clone a personality, feelings, or memory. But eh, I guess I really don't care if someone feels like spending their 50k on it to make themselves feel better.

if i remember correctly they would have the same personality at birth but their life experience can change it.

Not even.

Research has shown that humans are actually influenced by their experiences in the womb. It likely has an effect on dogs as well.


On the other hand, genes have so much say in who we are that the clones would probably end up similar to their "originals" in many ways.
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
August 06 2008 19:12 GMT
#58
On August 07 2008 01:18 ViRii wrote:
Here's the real question...

Why clone it five times?

Why not clone it once, and when it dies, clone it again? I guess rational thought is outside her comprehension


Would you rather have 1 Dave[9] or 5 Dave[9]'s?

or even worse...

Would you rather have 1 Jared or 5 Jareds?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
August 06 2008 19:12 GMT
#59
Personally, I don't see why some people get uptight about human cloning. As far as I'm concerned, we already have human clones, namely identical twins. Now we'll just have the twins living at different times.

Heck, it's not like you're bringing the other person back from the dead or anything. If one identical twin died in an accident, who would consider the other twin to be that same person? Now replace the identical twin with a clone, and it's the same situation, imo.


Furthermore, I think it's pointless to argue about the effects of the clone knowing they're a clone of someone else, or knowing that person's life history, etc. The effects will depend entirely on what kind of person the clone is: it might motivate them to surpass their "original" or it might depress them. Considering the zillion other things that "may or may not depress" a person, I don't see this as being fundamentally different.
bdams19
Profile Joined January 2005
United States1316 Posts
August 06 2008 19:21 GMT
#60
On August 07 2008 03:10 Hippopotamus wrote:
Have your girlfriend give you dog a blowjob. If things go well you may soon have dogmen with your dog's genes.


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