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r00ty
Germany1057 Posts
Under the circumstances mentionend in the OP, i'd bet all my money on me.  It's 70-80lbs of german shepard attacking you while you see him coming. The dog will charge 100%, so just stay calm then go for the eyes/throat. If you're trained, a well placed kick and counter attack, or grapple followed by throwing him around should do the job as well. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On July 23 2012 10:47 xrapture wrote: Even if your arms are shredded they can hit the dog with the force of a baseball bat. which is why you see so many baseball players opting to use their bare arms instead of actual bats ARE YOU KIDDING ME people say the stupidest shit, it's unbelievable. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On July 23 2012 10:26 PassionFruit wrote: Kick the dog in the head? Good luck with that. You've obviously never tried to kick a fast moving target before. You might get lucky and connect, but even then it'll prolly be a glance. But more likely than not you'll miss, be unbalanced, and it's gg son. Hmm. Most of your points are correct except this one. You are dead wrong. Kicking a dog in the head is doable, and certainly the best response without any other weapon, although perhaps not to the *average* person who isn't accustomed to kicking anything, let alone a moving target. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On July 23 2012 10:26 PassionFruit wrote: Poke the eyes of a dog? lol. As if the avg man has superb Jaedong poke harass ability. It's easy to poke out the eyes, because it will be hanging onto your arm. The hard part is ignoring how your arm is being shredded beyond recognition. On July 23 2012 10:47 xrapture wrote: Lions weigh 550 lbs and compared to a human, that's about the proportionate disparity between a human and a dog. Except lions are built to kill things, while humans are... less so. and lol at how many people think "it's just a fight to the death, no big... I'll just psych myself up into a killing machine and ignore pain". It's a little harder than that. | ||
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Signus
United States269 Posts
So why do I have to fight a German Shepard? Whom I presume is military trained, instead of a couch potato who doesn't have a violent bone in it's body. I'm out of shape and haven't been in a fight since I was 13 years old. Let's submit someone who is in slightly better fighting condition. How about a German Shepard vs Anderson Silva? Now, I'm pretty sure Silva could defeat a dog in a straight up fight, he might get bit a few times, but I don't think he'd die as long as he was ready for it. Here's the thing about dogs, they are not nearly as well equipped for fighting as other animals. Unlike Big Cats or Bears, Canines can only do real damage with their jaws. That leaves them with one option and it's a pretty easy one to defend against. Also, human beings aren't as supremely terrible physically as some people believe. Sure, our bodies have mostly evolved towards excelling at two things (throwing and long distance running), but we're still bigger than most animals and that means a lot. Perhaps if it was a Wolf, I'd think it would be a harder call to make, but since it's one of ours, I'm inclined to side with my fellow humans. | ||
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Dephy
Lithuania163 Posts
On July 23 2012 11:30 starfries wrote: It's easy to poke out the eyes, because it will be hanging onto your arm. The hard part is ignoring how your arm is being shredded beyond recognition. Except lions are built to kill things, while humans are... less so. and lol at how many people think "it's just a fight to the death, no big... I'll just psych myself up into a killing machine and ignore pain". It's a little harder than that. humans were build to kill to, we have one of the best stamina of any land animals. We also have eyes straight ahead, just like any predator. Also ppl already wrote, that they encountered sheppards attacking them, 1 dude wrote that he just dislocated its legs by pulling them apart, basicly disabling the dog. Also there are other tactics as shoving your fist up its throat. If your big, you can also charge him, knock him onto ground, and disloke his limbs, pull his jaw apart, or just hit him with your fist till it dies. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On July 23 2012 13:30 Dephy wrote: humans were build to kill to, we have one of the best stamina of any land animals. We also have eyes straight ahead, just like any predator. Also ppl already wrote, that they encountered sheppards attacking them, 1 dude wrote that he just dislocated its legs by pulling them apart, basicly disabling the dog. Also there are other tactics as shoving your fist up its throat. If your big, you can also charge him, knock him onto ground, and disloke his limbs, pull his jaw apart, or just hit him with your fist till it dies. "if your big" doesn't really imply an average person vs. an average dog. Being big and strong isn't as big of an advantage if the German Shepherd is also the equivalent of 'big and strong', as in, if he has better training/ability. Let's say instead of facing someone's average pet German Shepherd on the street, as a big man, you are facing a trained attack dog. Keep in mind these dogs are used by militaries all over the world for many tasks, including attacking, detaining, and killing people if need be. For every person who says they fought off/killed a shepherd here on the internet, think about how many people have been attacked/maimed/killed by the dogs in real life, even in combat scenarios. SEALs are among the military users of German Shepherds, in addition to many other special operations branches around the world. I see your point, that there are things you can do to a dog, but you really shouldn't use this or people's written account of dealing with dogs as reasons for being complacent about them. You don't want to find yourself fighting a German Shepherd, bottom line, even if you think 'your a big man'. You're in for a lot of injuries and probably death if it's actually this weird 'deathmatch' scenario, which to be fair you'd likely never encounter in real life. Chances are if someone has sicked an attack dog shepherd on you, it's trained to avoid outright killing. | ||
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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Tears.Of.The.Moon
Slovenia715 Posts
As long as the human has more than 50% the weight of the dog, the human should be able to win. | ||
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humanimal
United States151 Posts
On July 23 2012 11:09 gtrsrs wrote: which is why you see so many baseball players opting to use their bare arms instead of actual bats ARE YOU KIDDING ME people say the stupidest shit, it's unbelievable. lol cuz the only reason you use a baseball bat is so you can hit it farther instead of other reasons such as not getting hurt? you're right people say some really stupid stuff... on topic: human easy if they get in position, dog if they manage to critically injure you | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On July 23 2012 14:16 humanimal wrote: lol cuz the only reason you use a baseball bat is so you can hit it farther instead of other reasons such as not getting hurt? you're right people say some really stupid stuff... on topic: human easy if they get in position, dog if they manage to critically injure you I haven't taken a physics class in a long time, but something tells me that it shouldn't be mathematically possible for someone to hit something with their arm as hard as they can with a baseball bat. It's easy to poke out the eyes, because it will be hanging onto your arm. The hard part is ignoring how your arm is being shredded beyond recognition. Now this is a stupid statement. I hate it when I see people say this. Two things. First, you usually see dogs go for the arm in the media because they are trained to do so. Dogs will more than likely go for your throat or face in a life-or-death situation. Second, even if it did go for your arm, a dog doesn't just sit there and chew on it; it will thrash viciously, and a German Shephard will probably thrash so hard that it will throw you around like a rag doll. | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On July 23 2012 14:16 humanimal wrote: lol cuz the only reason you use a baseball bat is so you can hit it farther instead of other reasons such as not getting hurt? you're right people say some really stupid stuff... on topic: human easy if they get in position, dog if they manage to critically injure you If you look at the physics of the situation... If you can exert a force that will make your arms spin at a constant angular velocity, the forward velocity will be greater at the tip of the bat (since v = rw), thus exerting a greater impulse on the ball. (this is ignoring the effects of the surface of the bat vs the surface of your hand) Use of a bat for sure lets you hit the ball much farther. | ||
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We Are Here
Australia1810 Posts
On July 23 2012 11:59 Signus wrote: I disagree, if it was a cornered wolf it would be a very easy call to make, the wolf would win =]Perhaps if it was a Wolf, I'd think it would be a harder call to make, but since it's one of ours, I'm inclined to side with my fellow humans. | ||
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Dephy
Lithuania163 Posts
On July 23 2012 14:22 Stratos_speAr wrote: I haven't taken a physics class in a long time, but something tells me that it shouldn't be mathematically possible for someone to hit something with their arm as hard as they can with a baseball bat. Now this is a stupid statement. I hate it when I see people say this. Two things. First, you usually see dogs go for the arm in the media because they are trained to do so. Dogs will more than likely go for your throat or face in a life-or-death situation. Second, even if it did go for your arm, a dog doesn't just sit there and chew on it; it will thrash viciously, and a German Shephard will probably thrash so hard that it will throw you around like a rag doll. dogs are trained to grab arm, because ppl carry knifes in there hands, if there just attacks anywhere they can, they would get stabbed to death pretty fast. | ||
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Bobgrimly
New Zealand250 Posts
Dogs are weak. Very very weak. They are PACK ANIMALS for a reason. They don't function well in a 1v1. Not in nature and certainly not against humans. A trained dog vs a trained man it would be a pretty one sided battle. Hell the dog would be lucky to even bite a guy. Dogs aren't 1v1 fights. Now cats.... a dog sized cat vs a man... with the intent to kill the man would be a much more balanced fight and most likely if the man won he would have to sacrifice a lot of skin and withstand a lot of pain to do so. I would probably put money on the cat. | ||
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iremnant3847
Taiwan269 Posts
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valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
I'd say given a few minutes to think the situation over, an average human male should beat the dog 90% of the time, if not more. In a panic situation, the human would probably still win most of the time, but the dog would probably do better. | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On July 23 2012 14:22 Stratos_speAr wrote: Now this is a stupid statement. I hate it when I see people say this. Two things. First, you usually see dogs go for the arm in the media because they are trained to do so. Dogs will more than likely go for your throat or face in a life-or-death situation. Second, even if it did go for your arm, a dog doesn't just sit there and chew on it; it will thrash viciously, and a German Shephard will probably thrash so hard that it will throw you around like a rag doll. haha, relax. I'm sorry I ruined your day. And elaborate? From what I've read about dog attacks, a dog is perfectly fine with biting an extremity if it can't reach your face. It's not like you won't die from a severed leg artery anyways. Also I can't see a dog throwing something around "like a rag doll" that weighs twice as much as it. | ||
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StarStrider
United States689 Posts
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