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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-26 22:13:42
May 26 2008 22:12 GMT
#321
I agree but we are still off topic.

If i had a German sherpard i would take your bets and try to kill him.

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jk xD
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
man
Profile Joined November 2005
United States272 Posts
May 26 2008 22:13 GMT
#322
Pound for pound, dogs are twice as strong as humans. The dutch shepard in the video I linked weighs 130 lbs. You guys are underestimating a dog's strength.
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
May 26 2008 22:18 GMT
#323
I'm actually surprised on how long this thread turned out haha
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
May 26 2008 22:19 GMT
#324
On May 27 2008 05:51 Funchucks wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4489792.stm

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Poll: Man vs. Squirrels?
(Vote): Squirrels
(Vote): Man


"Squirrels have bitten to death a stray dog which was barking at them in a Russian park, local media report."

In soviet russia, squirrels eat your dogs.
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polarwolf
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
924 Posts
May 26 2008 22:27 GMT
#325
saying that i train MMA was only an argument that I can rate the situation better (in my opinion) and i think an average guy can defeat a dog. Watch the vid I posted above, it it wasn't for the cops who tasered the guy he totally would have kicked the dogs ass throwing it around like a towel.

This vid also give an impression on how the dog fights: It will run at you like crazy and not try to dodge any of your strikes. Front kicks would work perfectly I guess.

Cannot comment on the pain people are able to take when they are bitten and how good they can react when it happens. Might differ from person to person.
Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
May 26 2008 22:30 GMT
#326
There are in the neighborhood of 400,000 serious dog attacks per year in the USA (i.e. requiring medical treatment).

There are in the neighborhood of 20 people killed by dogs per year in the USA, almost always small children killed by large dogs. For an adult to be killed by a dog could be fairly classed as a freak accident.

Dogs are not good at finishing the deal. Yes, a dog will hurt you. It may knock you down with its initial charge. It will almost certainly not kill you. A dog is not a tiger or a wolf. They don't have a killer instinct or the brains to figure out how to seal the deal.

Your instincts will protect you. You will naturally cover your face and neck. You will naturally lash out and strike strong blows on the dog.

The dog's bites will generally be of a painful and disfiguring nature. They will not generally be crippling or immediately life-threatening. Unless it is trained by humans specifically to kill humans (in which case, you can hardly call it a contest of man against beast alone), you can expect the dog to fight stupidly in a life-and-death struggle.

Even unskilled bludgeoning attacks will impair the dog's fighting strength, wear it down, cripple it, and finally kill it. Endurance, patience, superior size, intelligence, and clarity of purpose are large advantages. Whenever the dog has committed its only weapon to an attacking one limb, the man will find opportunity to retaliate with at least one of the other three, dealing dangerous and cumulative damage.

To the people claiming that the dog would quickly cripple or kill the man: the statistics do not bear this out. People are tougher than that, and dogs are not efficient killers.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32282 Posts
May 26 2008 22:31 GMT
#327
That guys weights 160Kgs though, doesn't he? That must be like twice the average.
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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
May 26 2008 22:34 GMT
#328
I like how everybody keeps saying that adrenaline = autowin for humans. Dogs have adrenaline too. And they will be just as 'up against the ropes' as you are, and fight back accordingly. I should have known this poll would turn into an internet pissing contest.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
May 26 2008 22:34 GMT
#329
On May 27 2008 07:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
That guys weights 160Kgs though, doesn't he? That must be like twice the average.

I think a 80kgs guy would do better than a 160kgs fatass.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32282 Posts
May 26 2008 22:35 GMT
#330
He seems rather fit than fat.
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ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
May 26 2008 22:38 GMT
#331
human has longer reach but dog has more speed so..depends who gets lucky first
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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4653 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-26 22:48:39
May 26 2008 22:43 GMT
#332
On May 27 2008 07:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
That guys weights 160Kgs though, doesn't he? That must be like twice the average.


That guy just isn't human. He is sooo hugeeee! He should be classified as an animal. At that weight, an overgrown pig.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 26 2008 22:52 GMT
#333
A lot of you totally overestimate your pain threshold. Its like me saying I can sprint with a fractured ankle if my life depended on it by just 'taking the pain.' Doesn't work that way.

Someone clearly hasn't seen I Shouldn't Be Alive. It actually does work that way. Humans are capable of incredible things when the situation becomes life and death.

The reason you couldn't move your hand was because it's your fucking dog. It's not like you have adrenaline running thru you, your brain telling you you're going to die if you don't move your hand.

(This isn't an argument humans would kick a dogs ass, this is just correcting a statement that is clearly false =/)
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pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
May 26 2008 22:59 GMT
#334
On May 27 2008 07:52 PsycHOTemplar wrote:
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A lot of you totally overestimate your pain threshold. Its like me saying I can sprint with a fractured ankle if my life depended on it by just 'taking the pain.' Doesn't work that way.

Someone clearly hasn't seen I Shouldn't Be Alive. It actually does work that way. Humans are capable of incredible things when the situation becomes life and death.

The reason you couldn't move your hand was because it's your fucking dog. It's not like you have adrenaline running thru you, your brain telling you you're going to die if you don't move your hand.

(This isn't an argument humans would kick a dogs ass, this is just correcting a statement that is clearly false =/)


You should take note of the program's name, Shouldn't be Alive lol. It MIGHT have like 1% of the time, but most of the time it doesn't. And I think I saw one of those shows, a guy broke his ankle, and still managed to make it down a mountain and such. However, thats why I said sprint in my initial message. I acknowledge ppl can do crazy shit, but even then the guy was hobbling down the mountain limping and half crawling with his broken ankle. You can bear SOME pain, but there are limitations on the effectiveness of the limb then (couldn't walk on it right).
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
May 26 2008 23:10 GMT
#335
On May 27 2008 07:43 [X]Ken_D wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2008 07:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
That guys weights 160Kgs though, doesn't he? That must be like twice the average.


That guy just isn't human. He is sooo hugeeee! He should be classified as an animal. At that weight, an overgrown pig.

Are you going to tell me that guy is the "average" male? wtf that guy is twice he size of that cop
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 26 2008 23:19 GMT
#336
You should take note of the program's name, Shouldn't be Alive lol. It MIGHT have like 1% of the time, but most of the time it doesn't.

lol, whatever. Only way to settle an argument like this would be to go thru records of people who died via unnatural causes, and find out in what way they endured their last moments. Personally, I don't have access to that type of information, but apparently you do since you're so sure
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KaasZerg
Profile Joined November 2005
Netherlands927 Posts
May 26 2008 23:24 GMT
#337
Mans paintreshold is the most pathetic in the animal kingdom.
Mans strength and speed is the most pathetic in the animal kingdom.
Man is prone to panic.

Most dogs are socialized and bred to be submisive to humans and are reluctant to fight.
If prone to fight dogs know weakspots in the oponent instictively.

Man has one of the best endurance in the animal kingdom.
The main reason we are superior is in handling tools/weapons and improvisation.
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
May 26 2008 23:26 GMT
#338
On May 27 2008 07:31 IntoTheWow wrote:
That guys weights 160Kgs though, doesn't he? That must be like twice the average.

Thats also a police attack dog trained to attack people, so thats at least twice the average in the dog department.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-26 23:36:44
May 26 2008 23:35 GMT
#339
Mans paintreshold is the most pathetic in the animal kingdom.

Where do you get this information? Don't you think a deer's 'pain threshold' (whatever that means) is less than a man's, when it's being attacked by a predator? Don't they just instinctively give up once they know they're down, and pass out? I think it's the Vagus Nerve that does that. Actually... to be honest I don't see how one animals pain threshold is at all different from another's. All animals give up when they know they're done for, and all animals fight against all odds when they're in danger and they think they have a chance... Humans aren't different.

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Activation of the vagus nerve typically leads to a reduction in heart rate, blood pressure, or both. This occurs commonly in the setting of gastrointestinal illness such as viral gastroenteritis or acute cholecystitis, or in response to other stimuli, including carotid sinus massage, Valsalva maneuver, or pain from any cause, particularly having blood drawn. When the circulatory changes are great enough, vasovagal syncope results. Relative dehydration tends to amplify these responses.

Excessive activation of the vagal nerve during emotional stress, which is a parasympathetic overcompensation of a strong sympathetic nervous system response associated with stress, can also cause vasovagal syncope because of a sudden drop in blood pressure and heart rate. Vasovagal syncope affects young children and women more often. It can also lead to temporary loss of bladder control under moments of extreme fear.

Research has shown that women who have complete transection of the spinal cord can experience orgasms through the vagus nerve, which can go from the uterus, cervix and probably the vagina to the brain.
ROFL at the last note... so random.
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BleuNuit
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada44 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-26 23:42:51
May 26 2008 23:38 GMT
#340
You dont need to be that strong to take on another animal, just smart. Take out some eyes while you protect your neck, face. Worst case scenario you lose a limb while taking out its eyes, but then afterwards you can just walk/limp around calmly as it wastes its energy attacking in a blind rage, wait till its tired, and crush its face/break its legs/snap its neck. no obs. dt. gg.
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