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mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
Of course it would take effort. God forbid arguing effectively and gaining credibility should require EFFORT...! I'm gonna score this a TKO in Psylo's favor unless I start seeing some seriously researched arguments from the USA hawks!  | ||
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SoLsiTO
United States573 Posts
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ProudToBeANoob
Thailand54 Posts
A good independant (though leftist, sorry sirs): www.opendemocracy.net There are scientists, independant journalists, writers... and not only americans ! I will not dig it up to prove one is wrong or another is right, but many of the common topics about Iraqi and 9/11 are covered, in a much better way than all the samples i could have read in this thread... | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
didn't read any of your last few posts not only are u not making an argument, u dont even know what u are arguing against. what u tried to refute was based on the controlled collapse issue. i know that it is a far fetched idea. i even helped u out a bit, and provided a link to argue against myself, although i still beleive that the WTC was controlled, it is irrelivant to the nature of the rest of the information. | ||
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SoLsiTO
United States573 Posts
On September 02 2003 08:48 ProudToBeANoob wrote: then do it ! i would, but i agree with psylo for the most part, and was never arguing against him  | ||
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DeMoNiC
United States294 Posts
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Commander{+}
United States2878 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On September 02 2003 08:20 mensrea wrote: I accually said the same thing out loud when I got past page 5 of this.Where the hell is Hades (aka "The Canadian Captain America") when you need the bastard... | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
This stuff is all pretty messed up. Sigh, wouldn't it so cool to just KNOW ALL? | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
On September 02 2003 08:20 mensrea wrote:Not trying to take sides. bah, being the good ol' mensrea again eh? sigh... | ||
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TeCh)PsylO
United States3552 Posts
On September 02 2003 12:02 Klogon wrote: And psylo, I like your explination of this whole thing better than the first link you gave us. I donno, just like it better 9-11 doesnt seem that extreme if u look at it as a continuation of bush's policy | ||
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pyogenes
Brazil1401 Posts
maybe it was bush teamed with others? or maybe it was the terrorists themselves who planted bombs on the bottom of the buildings ?_? don't know, but what i do know is that they didnt fall due to the two planes... i mean just look at the way it fell... it was like a perfect controlled demolitoin and yea, i think tech)psylo has a better chance of being right than wrong, he said /join #ggnore to everyone here lol | ||
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ObsoleteLogic
United States3676 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On September 02 2003 02:31 SoLsiTO wrote: LOL, are you sure you didnt mean that 98% of the media is neoliberal? (which still isn't true) Please continue making a fool of yourself Yes I am sure. If you don't know this it is quite sad. It isn't a secret. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On September 02 2003 02:42 DeMoNiC wrote: lol i dont know what to say about ur respose -_-... did u even read what i said??? dude their not giving the american population the oil.. have u seen gas prices go down??? their making themselves richer.. once again plz stop and think, these people are mad men, and money meens power.. their after power u idiot.. not looking for the better of the american people gas prices went down because the strike in Venezuala ended, idiot. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On September 02 2003 03:14 DeMoNiC wrote: true, if they had engine troubles they were going down anyway lol, and if there radios werent working it could be assumed that terrorists cut the radio links off, and on top of that bush told people not to fly this day or week.. so if a plane was acting up it could be assumed THIS was the terrorist atk he knew about for MONTHS if not years Very inaccurate. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On September 02 2003 06:04 ProudToBeANoob wrote: To claim US is fighting terrorism all over the world is a fucking lie...Taliban rules Pakistan, Pakistan got the A bomb for many years now, what exactly is USA doing against Pakistan ? India and Pakistan both have the A bomb and their government are not exactly peaceful ones (should i remind Kashmir? Same situation as in Middle-Orient but there is no jewish...) Pakistan played well diplomatically during Afghanistan raping by hosting american diplomats and logistics. So there may be 'Good Talibans' and 'Bad Talibans' , apparently...But try to read some newspapers or websites (they aren't many, easy to find) from Pakistan and you will see how friendly they think about US policy. I will not feed this debate because i don't want to fall into the trap of misinformation... To the ones who made their opinion about France or any other country by watching CNN and reading the same newspapers they are bitching about: be logical ! I believe it was after the Gulf War where Iraq signed the peace treaty that said they weren't allowed to have WMD. Can you point out the treaty that says India isn't allowed to have an A-Bomb? If so maybe we will go to war with them too. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On September 02 2003 08:20 mensrea wrote: Not trying to take sides. Just an observation: It seems to me that at least Psylo's done his homework - which is quantum leaps more than I can say for his detractors. Whether he turns out to be right or not, he's very obviously put some serious thought and research into this. Not so his opponents - at least it doesn't seem so on the face of it. Nothing more than acid-laced appeals to personal opinion, petty personal insults and deconstructionist over-analyses. Where are the counter-arguments? Not YOUR counter-arguments, but the kind that have seen print? What are the sources? C'mon. I know the flag-waving, super-patriots among you can do better than this. Where the hell is Hades (aka "The Canadian Captain America") when you need the bastard... We don't have to refute their points. 9/11 is going down in history as what it was. Hijackers, crashing planes into buildings and killing thousands. They have to refute that, not vice versa. I have pretty much refuted everything I could except for the "I watched the buildings fall over and over and I KNOW they didn't fall naturally" or "The day of 9/11 I had a feeling that something was corrupt." or "I knew Bush was behind it just because of the way he acts in press conferences." That is awfully hard to refute. But Psylo is basically trying to tell us that Bush planted some kind of bombs under the ground that caused seismic spikes large enough to collapse buildings and heat hot enough to melt steel, while I am trying to tell you that 2 Planes with a full tank of fuel was hot enough to melt the steel support beams that hold up the tower, causing the top 20 floors to fall straight down and keep going all the way to the ground. | ||
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