Who wants to watch a fight?

On January 05 2008 08:00 fookyou wrote:
EE HAN TIMING

On January 05 2008 08:00 mahnini wrote:
watch the right side fifth from top, that shit was SICK

On January 05 2008 08:12 kidd wrote:
That beetle is a Rhinoceros Beetle I believe which pound for pound is the strongest creature on the planet being able to lift something like 500 times its own body weight. Very unfair fight--

Don't ask me how I know this, I watch too much Animal Planet.

On January 05 2008 08:09 mahnini wrote:
http://www.japanesebugfights.com/11.htm
omg seriously ownage in this one.
also that hornet is pimp

On January 05 2008 08:17 Boblion wrote:
Lol that is quite stupid and cruel....

A giant hornet vs grasshopper ( uh kinda imbalanced ? )

A giant hornet can hurt a man ... whereas this kind of big grasshopper can only eat small flies.

I would have more chance to knock out a bear than the grasshopper to kill the hornet

On January 05 2008 08:19 Jyvblamo wrote:


Stop whining about Hornet>Grasshopper imba, the Hornet clearly had better micro in that match.

On January 05 2008 08:29 5HITCOMBO wrote:

I bet the Grasshopper has better macro, he'd probably win if this wasn't UMS.

On January 05 2008 08:19 Jyvblamo wrote:

Stop whining about Hornet>Grasshopper imba, the Hornet clearly had better micro in that match.

On January 05 2008 08:04 z7-TranCe wrote:
oh feck yes,tomorrow nights drinking game right herre :0

On January 05 2008 11:34 Smokin_Squirrel wrote:
The beetle is raping the shit out of everything. I don't even know if the hornet or the tarantula can beat it.

On January 05 2008 11:40 ilj.psa wrote:

that beetle is considered the strongest insect according to animal planet so he will beat anyone

On January 05 2008 08:00 fookyou wrote:
EE HAN TIMING

On January 05 2008 11:49 SigrUn wrote:
Does anyone know what that big spider- like thing with long "arms" is? I tried to read the Katakana and it came out something like Giant Utemushi. <_<

On January 05 2008 13:08 tiffany wrote:
giant hornet is obviously a finalist. those beetles are too. but i think in the end a giant centipede would win. i don't think they had one in the fights

On January 05 2008 08:05 PanoRaMa wrote:


lmao

Was the scorpion's tail unable to penetrate the beetle's armor or something? In scorpion vs ___ fights i've seen in the past (ty youtube for the curing the boring nights), they've always started out lashing with their tails and whatnot, but this retarded scorpion decided to go melee? whats up with that?



WTF is that blue thing anyway?

On January 05 2008 08:47 Boblion wrote:


^^

But seriously Hornet have a fucking sting and huge jaws moreover they are one the most agressive animal on earth and they are uber strong ( if you have ever tried to kill one you will understand ). Even if this kind of grasshopper looks badass it has no chance to even hurt the hornet.


Lol at the "weird spider" who fight against the mygale and get utterly destroyed. This is a amblypyge ( it isnt a real spider ) and it has no venom and it eats small bugs...

Edit: it managed to kill this lazy mantis ( mantis have suspicious chin ) . Nevertheless it has no chance vs a migale ( 5X bigger + venom = lol match ).

On January 05 2008 14:01 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:
japan is cool.

and i tihnk that blue tihng was a crab or something?

On January 05 2008 13:28 FragKrag wrote:
poor crayfish Got stung through the eyessssss :|

On January 05 2008 14:36 Jyvblamo wrote:
I want to see some killer ants.

Can they do this for protozoa? Protozoa are the shit.

Edit: Oh yeah, this is cruel and immoral and stuff.

On January 05 2008 14:50 SigrUn wrote:
I love how most of the fights have both bugs trying to escape, then the scene cuts to them fighting again (I assume the staff just sets them next to each other again).

On January 05 2008 18:35 nortydog wrote:
I bet they eat them once the fight is over

On January 05 2008 19:53 .dragoon wrote:
First I thought I was kinda cruel, but then I remembered they're just bugs. This is a doggy dog world.

On January 05 2008 11:49 SigrUn wrote:
Does anyone know what that big spider- like thing with long "arms" is? I tried to read the Katakana and it came out something like Giant Utemushi. <_<

On January 05 2008 13:58 evanthebouncy! wrote:

Edit1: Oh sorry there's another one w/ grasshopper haha sorry.

On January 05 2008 21:53 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
If the cages werent that small these poor little fellows wouldnt even fight but sit in the corner
-,-

On January 05 2008 21:53 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
If the cages werent that small these poor little fellows wouldnt even fight but sit in the corner
-,-

On January 05 2008 23:35 zizou21 wrote:


BUT HOW WOULD THAT BE ENTERTAINING TO US!!??

On January 05 2008 21:42 Boblion wrote:



This is a amblypyge ( it isnt a real spider ) and it has no venom and it eats small bugs...
even if it managed to kill this lazy mantis ( mantis have suspicious chin ) it isnt dangerous ( no venom ).

On January 06 2008 00:13 shimmy wrote:
This is like a cruel real life version of Pokemon.

On January 05 2008 11:24 ilj.psa wrote:
am i the only one that thinks this is sick? ooa

On January 06 2008 00:18 Capt. Moroni wrote:

Amazing find Mahnini. It certainly opened my eyes. I doubt I'm the only one who thought scorpions were so powerful before watching these vids.

Maybe that's because of "Honey I Shrunk The Kids?"

On January 05 2008 08:00 mahnini wrote:
watch the right side fifth from top, that shit was SICK

On January 06 2008 03:06 SoleSteeler wrote:
Pretty disturbing, but I still watched a few... I don't like the sad looking bugs that just want out!

The stinger of the Asian giant hornet is about 6 mm (¼ in) in length, and injects an especially potent venom that contains, like many bee and wasp venoms, a cytolytic peptide (specifically, a mastoparan) that can damage tissue by stimulating phospholipase action, in addition to its own intrinsic phospholipase. Masato Ono, an entomologist at Tamagawa University near Tokyo, described the sensation as feeling "like a hot nail being driven into my leg.".

An allergic human stung by the giant hornet may die from an allergic reaction to the venom; but the venom contains a neurotoxin called mandaratoxin which can be lethal to people who are not allergic if the dose is sufficient. About 70 people die each year in Japan after being stung by giant hornets.

A few interesting notes on Vespa mandarinia's venom and stinger:

* The venom contains at least eight distinct chemicals, some of which damage tissue, some of which cause pain, and at least one which has an odor that attracts more hornets to the victim.
* The venom contains 5% acetylcholine, a greater concentration than is present in bee or other wasp venoms. Acetylcholine stimulates the pain nerve fibres, intensifying the pain of the sting.
* Vespa mandarinia uses its large crushing mandibles, rather than its sting, to kill prey.
* The venom of the Asian giant hornet is more toxic than that of most other bees or wasps, giving this species one of the greatest lethal capacities per colony.
* The enzyme in the venom is so strong that it can dissolve human tissue.
* Like all hornets, V. mandarinia has a barbless stinger, allowing it to sting repeatedly.

The Asian giant hornet is a relentless hunter that preys on other large insects such as bees, other hornet species, and praying mantises.

On January 06 2008 03:50 Manit0u wrote:

I think that's our champion (if only the scorpion won't stop it)

On January 05 2008 14:08 dronebabo wrote:
lol i keep watching this and getting hungrier each time

On January 05 2008 23:15 CruiseR wrote:
Round 18 is praying mantis vs ???

On January 06 2008 04:39 Boblion wrote:

Hornet is overated :D. Lil bee FTW !!! ( bee are the cutest insects )

On January 06 2008 06:59 asdflkjh wrote:
Someone should download these in order to save them from animal rights groups before they find out. I know it's disturbing and morally repugnant and everything but it's just damn cool. Also adding korean commentary to them would be hilarious.

On January 06 2008 09:21 tiffany wrote:

i don't want to start a debate, and i don't know why i'm responding to 2 post asdflkjh, but let me just reply to all of you that think this is "cruel" and "unethical"

the whole basis for why we have PETA and animal rights and such is because they are vertebrates and can feel the same kind of pain we do. these are arthropods, which in fact or invertebrates. despite having nerve webs, the amount of "pain" they may be able to feel as we know it is incredibly small. this is why some males are able to just sit there while they are being slowly eaten alive by their female counterparts. their feelings aren't hurt either.

to do this to rare and endangered species is of course unethical, but otherwise there is nothing different from this and you killing the bugs yourself. me personally, i leave spiders alone because they are anti-pest, but if i see a scorpion or centipede in my home i am not going to hesitate just because i don't want to cause it "pain"

On January 06 2008 09:36 Boblion wrote:


I think that the main problem isnt to cause pain to such arthropods ( who the fuck care ?) but to watch them fight. My conclusion: ppl here are ten years old kids or sadists.

On January 06 2008 03:50 Manit0u wrote:



I think that's our champion (if only the scorpion won't stop it)

On January 06 2008 09:21 tiffany wrote:

i don't want to start a debate, and i don't know why i'm responding to 2 post asdflkjh, but let me just reply to all of you that think this is "cruel" and "unethical"

the whole basis for why we have PETA and animal rights and such is because they are vertebrates and can feel the same kind of pain we do. these are arthropods, which in fact or invertebrates. despite having nerve webs, the amount of "pain" they may be able to feel as we know it is incredibly small. this is why some males are able to just sit there while they are being slowly eaten alive by their female counterparts. their feelings aren't hurt either.

to do this to rare and endangered species is of course unethical, but otherwise there is nothing different from this and you killing the bugs yourself. me personally, i leave spiders alone because they are anti-pest, but if i see a scorpion or centipede in my home i am not going to hesitate just because i don't want to cause it "pain"

On January 06 2008 10:45 Sir Rexus Henk wrote:
Very cruel.

I cried watching that beautiful blue lobster die.

On January 06 2008 10:51 JoxxOr wrote:
Not my cup of tea, really hated it.

But then again, some other people maybe enjoy seeing other living creatures die...

On January 06 2008 10:58 ForAdun wrote:
Is it normal or is it sick when I say I felt with them insects but I loved to see them cripple each other?

On January 06 2008 11:03 Scorpion wrote:


That's why thousands of people watch boxing on pay per view.

On January 06 2008 10:42 man wrote:

it lost to that centipede thing

The centipede has modified claws called forcipules which curve around its head and can deliver venom into its prey. The extremely potent venom, containing acetylcholine, histamine, and serotonin, is toxic to humans and causes severe swelling, chills, fever, and weakness.

It is known to eat bats, catching them in midflight, as well as rodents and spiders.

On January 06 2008 11:41 Manit0u wrote:


That centipede thing is even more badass than hornet you know...





In the spoiler are some pretty gross movies from youtube containing centipede eating a mouse, centipede vs tarantula etc.
+ Show Spoiler +

Edit: I've decided to leave the mouse eating part out

Sexually dimorphic, the males have enlarged mandibles and are larger than the females. Although the male's mandibles seem threatening, they are too weak to be harmful.

On January 06 2008 23:05 KizZBG wrote:
Does the site still work for you guys?

On January 05 2008 08:01 Jyvblamo wrote:
Oh shit, that lobster thing has +1 Carapace.

On January 05 2008 08:00 fookyou wrote:
EE HAN TIMING

On January 06 2008 19:51 Boblion wrote:
This matches are rigged.

A stag bettle cant kill a lobster ..... Even if it is one of the strongest bugs.... It has no venom or real jaws.



-.-

The Atlas beetle, Chalcosoma atlas, is a species of beetle found in southern Asia, especially Malaysia, remarkable for its size (25-145 mm). As common in many insect species, the male is larger than the female and usually two males will fight for a female for mating.

Large scarabs such as this can be safely handled, though they can cut your skin with their very sharp claws if adequately provoked. Also, care must be taken not to touch a Chalcosoma just behind the pronotal shield, as there is a razor sharp joint there which the insect can suddenly close and give a rather painful pinch. Beetles this large are extremely strong in relation to their physical size, and one should be a somewhat cautious about placing fingers within range of the mobile horn on the insect's head.

On January 07 2008 03:25 Jibba wrote:
That's an Atlas beetle, not a wimpy stag beetle.

On January 07 2008 04:23 MenzieK wrote:
sadistic and cruel, but what else do you expect from humans?

On January 07 2008 04:49 Frits wrote:


I can't really see bugfights as cruel, they're only insects and we kill them all the time. This shit also happens in nature all the time.

And like I said, they're bugs, whoever gives a damn about this is a major pussy.

On January 07 2008 05:41 FragKrag wrote:
Yeah, sure. You're still killing bugs one way or another.

On January 07 2008 06:12 CapO wrote:
fragkrag, u still don't see the difference. we don't do it out of pure entertainment.

On January 07 2008 06:15 FragKrag wrote:

Oh noes, 10 bugs have died from bugfights! Let us ignore the countless other bugs killed by pesticides, birds, etc

On January 07 2008 06:22 FragKrag wrote:
Boblion France. January 07 2008 06:21. Posts 167

On January 05 2008 08:01 Jyvblamo wrote:
GO BEETLE, GO FOR THE THORAX.

Edit: FINISH HIM!

Oh shit, that lobster thing has +1 Carapace.

On January 07 2008 06:24 FragKrag wrote:


You're the one defending bug rights.

On January 07 2008 07:06 ilj.psa wrote:

This made me laugh sry T.T

On January 07 2008 07:12 Boblion wrote:


hehe my bad Enlish skills have been spotted again ^^
I wanted to mean " i give up ".

On January 07 2008 07:14 mahnini wrote:
Nono, it's cause your French and French people surrender a lot and eat french fries.

On January 07 2008 07:10 JIJI wrote:
That Hornet REALLY likes to fight.

On January 07 2008 07:17 ilj.psa wrote:
good that they closed the site i found those fights pretty fucked up

On January 07 2008 04:04 Boblion wrote:


You should watch the videos again ( i m not that stupid that stupid -.- )

It is a stag beetle who fights the lobster -.-

On January 07 2008 07:36 Jibba wrote:
Nope, the beetle fighting the lobster has three horns and is lifting. Stag beetles pinch with two.

On January 07 2008 07:50 Boblion wrote:


-.- I m talking about the orange lobster -.- his opponent is a stag beetle. ( round 8 )

On January 07 2008 07:52 Jibba wrote:
Oh. :x Well the blue one gets fucked up by the atlas. So we're both right. ^^

On January 07 2008 07:52 Jibba wrote:
I don't think traditional beetle fighting (common in many asian countries) is really that bad, cause they really only push each other around and they're designed to fight like that, in order to win a mate.

On January 07 2008 08:18 Boblion wrote:

Yes


Yup, usually they dont hurt each other. Those species of beetle dont eat others bugs and they looks like small versions of deer or rhino.

On January 07 2008 08:29 Jibba wrote:
It's really just an issue of why you watch the fights. I know bugs aren't feeling pain and their decisions are only based on simple, logical reactions like a machine, not actual emotional decision making, and it's interesting to see which bug and technique is more powerful, but I don't enjoy watching them die. I think it's a bit screwed up if you watch it because you like to see things die/suffer.

On January 07 2008 08:53 Jibba wrote:
BTW round 1 is fucking gruesome.

http://www.revver.com/video/602366/japanese-bug-fights-round-1-final-round/

So the big winners seem like: crazy centipede, death stalker, GRASSHOPPER, beetles
Stupid bitch: Asian hornet
Weak bitch: Preying Mantis

On January 07 2008 09:31 tiffany wrote:
i'd like to see it against a tarantula, centipede, or hornet.
.

On January 07 2008 04:49 Frits wrote:

And like I said, they're bugs, whoever gives a damn about this is a major pussy.

On January 07 2008 10:04 evanthebouncy! wrote:

You should never look down upon our fellow denizens of planet earth, let alone a sentient being.

Yea after all insect fighting is considered as a blood sport ya know

On January 07 2008 10:09 Jibba wrote:
Well, whether they're sentient or not is unknown. From what we know, they sense and react much like computers, but they don't feel and don't have awareness.


Goon spouprt. :X

On January 07 2008 04:49 Frits wrote:

And like I said, they're bugs, whoever gives a damn about this is a major pussy.

On January 07 2008 13:36 SigrUn wrote:


And anyone who doesn't give a damn over seeing two creatures forced to fight to the death is an asshole!

On January 07 2008 10:09 Jibba wrote:
Well, whether they're sentient or not is unknown. From what we know, they sense and react much like computers, but they don't feel and don't have awareness.

On January 07 2008 15:28 evanthebouncy! wrote:

Do you have any evidence/sources to backup your claims? The feeling of pain is the most important feeling, as it keeps you from doing stupid things and die. I am sure all those insects feel immense pain when they die, as the pain is there trying to persuade them away from death.

On January 07 2008 15:09 OhThatDang wrote:
i wanted to see guts or something

On January 07 2008 17:59 Ansible wrote:
i dunno why so many ppl are such pussies about bug fights. the way i see it, bugs r like fat and ugly ppl, because they have no feelings.so anything is game.

On January 07 2008 18:08 evanthebouncy! wrote:

Your name is Ansible, so I assumed you've read Ender's game. You should know better.

On January 07 2008 18:13 chicken` wrote:
this is interesting in the same sort of way i would've gone to the amphitheater to watch gladiators kill each other back in the glorious days of ancient rome. it's sick but still i wish there was something like gladiator fights nowadays in big stadiums. you could let criminals fight each other or something, of course noone ever wins freedom, they have to fight or they're tortured brutally and left crippled for the rest of their lives. wee cruelty! i sort of drifted here.

On January 07 2008 18:08 evanthebouncy! wrote:

Your name is Ansible, so I assumed you've read Ender's game. You should know better.

On January 07 2008 15:28 evanthebouncy! wrote:

Do you have any evidence/sources to backup your claims? The feeling of pain is the most important feeling, as it keeps you from doing stupid things and die. I am sure all those insects feel immense pain when they die, as the pain is there trying to persuade them away from death.

On January 07 2008 18:48 Jibba wrote:
What Tiffany said is true, but pain is also largely an emotional response. If you study the anatomy of insect brains, such as ants, it's quite amazing how simple they are. They operate similar to computers, by receiving data and making logical responses based on that data, but they're too simple to think, they just respond automatically based off information.

So they don't have a central nervous system, they don't have pain receptors and they don't think. They might have something scientists haven't discovered yet, but to the best of our current knowledge they can't feel or suffer. People point out that bugs do try and avoid death (except the retarded hornet), which is true, but it's just another neurological reaction based on data, not an actual choice to avoid it. It's simply a survival mechanism. Bugs cannot feel the pain a fire causes, but most can sense that they should avoid them because the ones that didn't died out pretty easily.

On January 07 2008 19:03 evanthebouncy! wrote:


Ah okay I should've rephrased my shits better.
I think what I was really trying to say is if any being has a tendency of self-preservation and poses no harm to someone, that someone should give that thing a chance to preserve itself in peace.
What you said makes sense, I haven't really studied nervous system formally yet, so I take what you said to be correct to our current understanding. I also agree that then, the bugs feel no pain. However I do still argue that since these bugs have a sense of survival, then they should be given a chance to do so. That however, is entirely a personal opinion(I could also see putting them into a cage fight being another very valid personal opinion as well) and I ask you politely not to argue with it.

On January 07 2008 19:05 Ansible wrote:

the bugs in those vids ARE given a chance for survival...

50%

On January 07 2008 19:05 Ansible wrote:

the bugs in those vids ARE given a chance for survival...

50%