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iloveHieu
United States1919 Posts
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iloveHieu
United States1919 Posts
On December 20 2007 09:50 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: stop voicing strong opinions about things you've never tried that's fair. I might get my friend, then. | ||
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AmorVincitOmnia
Kenya3846 Posts
On December 20 2007 09:57 Xeofreestyler wrote: what is 2ci? I've been wanting to try 2-CB since I read about it, you know that? 2ci is a lot more mental than 2cb i guess. it's also a lot more dangerous, less tested, and can potentially kill you a lot easier than 2cb haha. i've never had any problems though 2cb (we call it bromo-mescaline here heh) is more of a rave drug really. it's like taking LSD and x i guess. i can't ever seem to find it (it's not like i really look) in the states though. the only time i ever tried 2cb was when i went to amsterdam over the summer, and i'd much rather have that than the 2ci. so, yeah, if one day you're offered the choice between 2ci and 2cb, go for the 2cb. | ||
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z7-TranCe
Canada3158 Posts
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drug_vict1m
844 Posts
On December 20 2007 09:48 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: and i'd say LSD > your entire fucking being mescaline > LSD whats your problem? | ||
Xeofreestyler
Belgium6773 Posts
On December 20 2007 10:09 AmorVincitOmnia wrote: 2ci is a lot more mental than 2cb i guess. it's also a lot more dangerous, less tested, and can potentially kill you a lot easier than 2cb haha. i've never had any problems though 2cb (we call it bromo-mescaline here heh) is more of a rave drug really. it's like taking LSD and x i guess. i can't ever seem to find it (it's not like i really look) in the states though. the only time i ever tried 2cb was when i went to amsterdam over the summer, and i'd much rather have that than the 2ci. so, yeah, if one day you're offered the choice between 2ci and 2cb, go for the 2cb. I see. Cool, I'll tell my friend who often goes to amsterdam. | ||
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InfectedMind
Bulgaria78 Posts
 .@To all, about the mental addiction shit... People should start exploring their minds. Mostly only 3% of your brain is used... With more exploring you can learn things in life, science by your own, by all the things around you, no need to go to school, etc, etc... Trust me, i am doing this. The most important is to control your mind. If you do that, this words "Bad Trips" do not exist! Drugs like Mushrooms or LSD or Cacti or ... blah they are many... can really help you with your consciousness. @CharlieMurphy, yep, once i've got a problem with my plants... There were a lot of bugs after i harvest all the plants. I don't know their name in English, but they eat all the plant if you let them... They way that i use to kill them was with vacuum .@AmorVincitOmnia, 2ci is more for parties. Once in the middle of the night in Transylvania Calling Festival 2007 i went for several minutes in my car to roll one (i was on 2ci) and lots of dead and scary faces start to knock the windows of the car, trying to say something. It was one of my scariest trips, but i ignore my fear and said to me "Hey, i like twisted azian horror movies, so whats the problem with this trip? And everything turn into a forests, peace nature and many more things i love... Lots of hallucinations for sure .On Mescaline you can just sit on one spot and traveling in unknown worlds, just like on Salvia divinorum (well here is shorter).@Xeofreestyler, 2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenethylamine a.k.a 2-ci. On festivals you can see it in purple capsules, like MDMA. N,N-diisopropyl-5-methoxy-tryptamine a.k.a Foxy, you can see it in red capsules. 2,5-dimethoxy-4-chlorophenethylamine a.k.a 2-cc, you can see it in orange capsules. They are many more formules but i want to keep them underground .@All again, about Mushrooms <> LSD <> Mescaline and everything else... There is no "<" or ">", they are different drugs, with different effects, with different purpose. I won't tell you any trips, or experience on all of those above, i will just say that EVERYTIME IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT depends where you are taking them. If you take LSD only on parties every time, your trips will start being the same again and again. A little is same with mushrooms too... About Mescaline, i can't tell anything... Imo it's not for parties. Now i won't tell you either which drugs is bad for your body and which not... I will just tell you one thing ORGANIC > synthetic, when we are talking about bad effects on your body. You just have to be carefful. Don't take too much you might get crazy for life. | ||
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x_woof_x
United States659 Posts
On December 19 2007 15:27 CharlieMurphy wrote: I know I got to this thread late but there is a well documented occurence that long time users of MJ report 'turning a corner' in their MJ use. Instead of the fun euphoric normal experience from using the drug, they report things like this and other forms of paranoia, anxiety, panic attacks, or feelings of impending doom etc. This is part of the reason why I stopped smoking (which also just included my general laziness and health). The main reason however was that it just wasn't fun anymore. The first 20-30 times I did it, it was totally nuts, head trips, unorthodox abstract thinking, non stop laughter, etc. but with every time after that it just got progressively less fun and seemed more like I was just getting high to get high or because my friends were offering (I know that sounds cliche but its true). I still smoke occasionally when i'm really drunk or friends force me to (bribes or threats) but usually that just ends in me getting way too stoned and that coupled with me being way too drunk results in the spins. And we all know where that leads to, lol. PS- the cold hands thing could be totally unrelated (maybe has something to do with the weather or your computer fans when you happen to be high). But the Pounding heart and forced breathing thing I have had before. I used to have this old spring bed and I would sometimes lay down after smoking mad bowls and just listen to the spring creak and the bed shake to my heart beat. Its really cool/scary at the same time. PPS- Also Weed has evolved considerably in the last couple decades. bBack in our parents day it was just the average home grown weak shit. So they could smoke every day for 30 years and be normal. Nowadays they have scientists and botonists and college horticulturists growing it hydroponically in a lab for maximum potency etc. Here in california the weed is always super dank nobody even wants "BCs" anymore which is now a lower form of 'chronic' weed. So that is another reason why its so hard to speculate how much a person can handle because they are not always getting the same dosages all the time and its not even the same dosage at all as some kid in the midwest or newyork cause its always shittier weed no matter what. (you get what I'm saying?) PPPS - odd, firefox thinks I spelled occurence wrong. Thats like the 6th word its done this to me for since I've been using the firefox spellcheck. same with me. ive been getting bad highs now, always having to do with me concerned about getting a heart attack, but its not as bad as my friend has it. im extremely paranoid when im sober and under the influence and i think my OCD is getting worse, so i try to cut back, but its hard to stop when ur friends are doing it all the time and weed is a part of your social time. so to the non blazers out there, try not to make friends who smoke so much that ur forced to smoke weed everytime u hang out. @ cold hands thing : lol i got that in my first high and was complaning aobut how my hands were so cold. it was not just cold hands but feeling cold shivers around the body too. i forgot i had that until i experienced it again recently with some super dank stuff. and charlie is right, i dont know about any other country//state, but california has some strong weed and my friend introduced some lab made weed to some hippie who used to smoke pot in the 60's and he was absolutely mind blown. i think the dank is what might change your personality and make you lazier, i say this from experience, but maybe its because im kinda young and my mind isnt fully developed yet. | ||
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gLyo
United States2410 Posts
On December 20 2007 16:34 InfectedMind wrote: @MPXMX, well since i organize Psychedelic Open Air parties (always in forests, mountains, lakes, etc, etc...) and i also play Dark Mystical Mushroom LSD Psychedelic Trance (You know Glowing Flame records?) you should know how i feel .@To all, about the mental addiction shit... People should start exploring their minds. Mostly only 3% of your brain is used... With more exploring you can learn things in life, science by your own, by all the things around you, no need to go to school, etc, etc... Trust me, i am doing this. The most important is to control your mind. If you do that, this words "Bad Trips" do not exist! Drugs like Mushrooms or LSD or Cacti or ... blah they are many... can really help you with your consciousness. @CharlieMurphy, yep, once i've got a problem with my plants... There were a lot of bugs after i harvest all the plants. I don't know their name in English, but they eat all the plant if you let them... They way that i use to kill them was with vacuum .@AmorVincitOmnia, 2ci is more for parties. Once in the middle of the night in Transylvania Calling Festival 2007 i went for several minutes in my car to roll one (i was on 2ci) and lots of dead and scary faces start to knock the windows of the car, trying to say something. It was one of my scariest trips, but i ignore my fear and said to me "Hey, i like twisted azian horror movies, so whats the problem with this trip? And everything turn into a forests, peace nature and many more things i love... Lots of hallucinations for sure .On Mescaline you can just sit on one spot and traveling in unknown worlds, just like on Salvia divinorum (well here is shorter).@Xeofreestyler, 2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenethylamine a.k.a 2-ci. On festivals you can see it in purple capsules, like MDMA. N,N-diisopropyl-5-methoxy-tryptamine a.k.a Foxy, you can see it in red capsules. 2,5-dimethoxy-4-chlorophenethylamine a.k.a 2-cc, you can see it in orange capsules. They are many more formules but i want to keep them underground .@All again, about Mushrooms <> LSD <> Mescaline and everything else... There is no "<" or ">", they are different drugs, with different effects, with different purpose. I won't tell you any trips, or experience on all of those above, i will just say that EVERYTIME IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT depends where you are taking them. If you take LSD only on parties every time, your trips will start being the same again and again. A little is same with mushrooms too... About Mescaline, i can't tell anything... Imo it's not for parties. Now i won't tell you either which drugs is bad for your body and which not... I will just tell you one thing ORGANIC > synthetic, when we are talking about bad effects on your body. You just have to be carefful. Don't take too much you might get crazy for life. Please. Drugs are handed out in whatever form they are in. There are no predesignated rules about what drugs go in what colored capsules -- I've never ever seen MDMA in anything but pill form and in many, many colors. Also, dude, no "formulas" (you aren't giving us formulas, those are simply the chemical names of drugs) are "underground." You can find just about any drug that's ever been done on erowid.com. Further, organic being better than synthetic is just a superstitious notion. There are countless natural things that will kill you just as dead as anything synthetic. | ||
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Texas
Germany2388 Posts
@Xeofreestyler, 2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenethylamine a.k.a 2-ci. On festivals you can see it in purple capsules, like MDMA. N,N-diisopropyl-5-methoxy-tryptamine a.k.a Foxy, you can see it in red capsules. 2,5-dimethoxy-4-chlorophenethylamine a.k.a 2-cc, you can see it in orange capsules. They are many more formules but i want to keep them underground everyone being able to use wikipedia can give u those names, they r not underground lol. and wtf with the colours of those capsules...thats pure bs. | ||
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InfectedMind
Bulgaria78 Posts
About the colors, well i've been on many psychedelic festivals around Europe and every drug has his specific color. Maybe in USA is different. FFS i am sure you haven't sell any drugs on festivals, so please don't try to correct me. + Show Spoiler + Further, organic being better than synthetic is just a superstitious notion. There are countless natural things that will kill you just as dead as anything synthetic. Have it your way... | ||
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gLyo
United States2410 Posts
On December 20 2007 19:10 InfectedMind wrote: Lol, dudes... First you understand me wrong. Those aren't underground. Maybe it's even very populer in USA, since the first 13th foxy capsules were made in Chicago, as far as i know... Anyway they are other, which i am 100% sure are underground for you. I was speaking about them, and thats why i won't spell their names. I will just say that they are made in Japan. About the "Formula" don't take it in your USA language. I just don't know the right word to tell it, and i tought that this is the most common one. Well i am wrong. Chemical shitz, whatever you want call them, i don't care. About the colors, well i've been on many psychedelic festivals around Europe and every drug has his specific color. Maybe in USA is different. FFS i am sure you haven't sell any drugs on festivals, so please don't try to correct me. + Show Spoiler + Further, organic being better than synthetic is just a superstitious notion. There are countless natural things that will kill you just as dead as anything synthetic. Have it your way... Erowid covers pretty much any drug that's out there, with extremely comprehensive detail on the most common ones. I wouldn't doubt that there are any beyond that, but they are probably closely related to another drug and have similar effects. There are no drugs that are "secret" and only made in Japan. Sorry to burst your bubble, but drugs, due to their illicit nature, have no universal truths. Any drug user should be able to to tell you that. Nothing in secluded to Japan (especially not manufacture, which almost always takes place in developing nations) or anywhere else. I don't disbelieve that at your festivals drugs are color coded, and that's a terrific idea, but the fact of the matter is that color coding doesn't hold true throughout the world and it seems like a terrifically poor idea to tell people that it does. The essential anonymity of manufacturing assures users that, really, nothing is certain about their drugs. As a side note: 5-MeO-DMT, or, as you call it, "Foxy," is an ancient drug that's been used by shaman in S. America for at least a few hundred years. It was not first produced in Chicago, as it occurs naturally in many things. | ||
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InfectedMind
Bulgaria78 Posts
Anyway it's much more safer when someone comes to you and tell you "give me a orange one" on festivals. And i really hate when someone ask me whats this and that, and believe me nationals like Greece, Romania, Serbia and other close friends near, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW what is 2-ci. So the color codes are really one of the best ideas. | ||
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chicken`
Germany3478 Posts
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DrainX
Sweden3187 Posts
 I quit smoking about 2-3 weeks ago. Had problems sleeping etc last few weeks but now I can think clearly again. I'm not tired all the time and my memory is getting much better | ||
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JroD
Brazil12 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32089 Posts
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
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United States32089 Posts
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nA.Inky
United States794 Posts
Think about this. There have been several examples here, myself included, of people who smoked pot regularly and developed some kind of mental health problem from it. If you do searches on the subject, you'll find out about many more. People like me post about this because I hate to think of anyone going through what I went through. It is HELL. And even if you never get it as bad as I did, the fact is, weed can't possibly be good for your health, certainly not if used regularly, as MANY users use it. Now consider most of the drug users here. They are perfectly content to see you roll the dice with your mental and physical health. Do they care about what happens to you? Do they care if you wind up with a hellish panic disorder, or a clinical depression? They don't care at all what happens to you. They are interested in justifying their own lifestyle choices. Smoking weed can be a lot of fun, and rather than face that it can be truly dangerous, the drug abusers would rather make their "hobby" out to be harmless. They don't care about you. To be sure, some people can smoke pot for many years and wind up with no problems (at least no obvious ones.) But some people smoke only a year and wind up with serious problems. Do you know whether you are the ticking time bomb or not? How would you? You know, I had no history of mental illness in my family. I've always been in pretty good health. But it got me. I've been contacted privately by a few TL.netters who had the same thing! This does happen to people. Anyway, whether or not to use drugs is a very personal decision. I only hope that you make that decision carefully and intelligently. If you must use drugs, I urge you to never let yourself fall into the daily or even weekly pattern of use that so many do. And if your friends are working against your goals, pressuring you directly or indirectly to abuse drugs, then you need to think about getting yourself some new friends. IT can be hard, but I've been there too. In retrospect, having moved on from that lifestyle, I pity my drug using friends. I really do. I would much rather face life soberly, directly, and share my life with people who feel the same! | ||
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