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On December 22 2007 02:43 nA.Inky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2007 02:11 Coagulation wrote:
stfu inky not everyone does drugs because they want to be "Enlightend" or fucking "Empowerd"
some people just enjoy an altered state of mind. No need to be harsh, Coagulation - it's not my goal to piss you off, only to speak in a friendly and intelligent way. I understand what you are saying. If you use drugs recreationally with good results, I am happy for you. However, what concerns me is the fact that a lot of young people hear how grand these powerful drugs are, and they jump in and start using them without respect for how powerful they really are, and how potentially difficult the aftermath can be. The mistake many recreational drug users make is assuming that everyone will have a fantastically good time and have good results like they do. The fact is, these drugs can bring out all kinds of latent conditions, and they can cause all kinds of psychological conditions. No one knows who is going to have a problem until the problem is created. Therefore, what I am getting at is that it is irresponsible to take these drugs lightly, even if you do only use them for "an altered state of mind." When people laugh about how high they got, or how fun such and such drug is, they are making it out to be harmless fun, when it is potentially very harmful. I'm not against skydiving or playing with fire, but you have to know what you are getting into. You have to respect what you are getting into. It is hard to respect something if you don't know anything about it, and if all you hear are druggies talking about how fun it is to get wasted, you aren't going to know anything about drugs. See what I'm saying?
you sounded incredibly condescending. like im a bad person if i dont do yoga before i smoke a joint.
but on second thought it is to get a good important message across.
sorry
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Yep, not everyone take drugs for exploring their minds, a lot of people take drugs for the party trip. In time, those people will become with toasted brains.
Sorry...
And don't get me wrong, those people who are searching for knowledge only in drugs will toast their brains too, but slower, because they have the ability to control the drug.\
At lest thats my point of view... I know A LOT of people from both sides, people from 18 to 64 years old, shamans too. But in this culture some things are too complicated to explain... And with my bad English will be really hard  .
Anyway we get too much off topic, so...
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!
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i have this problem up to date, its anxiety from smoking pot which is normal ^^. dont be afraid that will only make all these feelings of anxiety more intence and thus u will feel like i did and go toa hospital for nothing more than once. lol. just chill its all grave just anxiety and i cant eat when i smoke pot to this day thats the only flaw to anxiety on weed makes ur throat all swollen feeling. buts its not really its just in ur brain stress rises when u worry so thinking ur about to die is the worst thing for anxiety lol,. gday get stoned smoke two for us pce !
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It doesn't "toast your mind". When you stop the usage, the memory and other negative side effects are completely gone.
Studies have been done, we've all read them. Stop propagating government lies.
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honest to god, the most anxiety ive ever experienced from weed was me flipping out at my friends for being idiots and blasting his music in his car in my driveway at like 230Am when we were smoking. ive really only seen one person TRULY bug out and that was my ex gf.
i came back from jamaica and managed to get some bud back. a bunch of us smoked in a car, along with her. my one friend—who is a douchebag—was fuckin with her the whole time (this is just how he was). He stopped, then all the sudden 10 minutes later she starts yelling, opens the car door and runs dow nthe street and i had to chase after her. apparently, she thought he kept on saying stuff to her, when he wasn't haha.
It was pretty odd, considering this girl was a big pothead. I never saw that happen again from her, or anyone else.
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Belgium6771 Posts
I've had some bad experiences with weed, but I can say that each and every time was either because of a completely empty stomach, thus making me feel bad by just having too much effect at once or when I eat too much before smoking, thus making me almost throw up.(depends on which food aswel, lasagna is pure evil)
Hasn't happened since I figured that out though hahah
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Hahaha that's funny.
The worst flipout I've witnessed was also form a girl. She called the cops because she "got too high" and thought she needed a medic. When the medics showed, she was stuck in a trance-like, and we were calling her name out and *SLAP* she walloped my buddy in the face. The medics looked annoyed but nobody got in trouble.
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haha i love smoking with petite girls, they get so beyond stoned.
probably one of the funniest things to witness, but you can't help but be jealous at the same time.
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hi all, i am an 18 yr old drug addict. Smoked pot since i was 14 (growed it my mom was cool with it - 3x400watt hps lamps + outdoor living in switzerland). I am not addicted to any drug in particular; wether it be weed, alcohol, xanax, dxm, mdma, or lsd i have a need to be under the effect of one.
OFC this all started with weed, but i do believe there is a genetic pre-disposition to drug addiction (just like it has been proved with cigarettes), my mother was and still is but not as much addicted to codeine (doctor) and my father was an alcoholic. When i first smoked i was like OMG I LOVE THIS STUFF. So.. yeah..
Growing my own is what screwed me over basically; having dozens of jars full of weed under my bed at all times did not help; i was expelled at the age of 14 from school and was at home all day for 3 months. I pretty much smoked all day then.
My drug problem as i said aboce goes further than with weed; if i have no weed i need to take SOMETHING. I either get drunk or take xanax. Taking lsd works but cannot be done regularly (tolerance issue).
I have a anxiety disorder which is NOT linked to weed but doesn't help my life ^^.
I have literally taken hundrends of acid drops (not proud of it ;/) and can tell you taht the effects vary a lot on the person. A friend of mine would TRIP OUT sooooo hard on one drop when i would need atleast 3-5 for similar effects (begining of taking lsd). I dont get "HUGE" hallucinations but rather subtle ones that really trip me out; as if i dont really notice im hallucinating when i am.
For me shrooms have always been more "harcore" and visual, lsd is more emotional / spiritual.
Put it this way; ur emotions x200 is how u feel on lsd. So if ur happy ur 200x happy and if ur scared ur 200x as scared.
Weed does make one anxious if not paranaoid(during the high) that is a common fact. Also to the person that said only stupid people would fuck their life up with weed is even more retarded for talking about something he doesnt know about. I believe i fucked my life up or atleast didnt help it through cannabis but my father commited suicide when i was 12 and i have deeper reasons to smoke weed than just to HAHA get high or w.e some people think, im a fucking good looking guy that is damn smart (excuse the cockyness but trying to give more detail ;p) and i shouldnt (have to?) take drugs to b happy.
Now i am finally out of school (which i h8ted soooo much) and am starting to be happy again!! I stopped growing for 6 months but recently started again because it makes not much of a difference since in a city(in switzerland) not far from where i live (1hr train) weed is "tolerated" and they have small shops with covers selling it at decent prices. So ive begun growing again to save some cash. I got 5 female blue mystics out of 8 :D and they are looking good.
If i wasn't addicted to drugs it would be something else (like diablo 2 or sc when i was young 10-14, spent all money on phone (be4 adsl) so i wonder if i just have an addictive personality..
Anyways this is my story mb it will help.
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yeah i did that for a little over a year, where i wasn't having "fun" unless i was fucked up. it got boring for me personally, and i had to take a little break.
i preach about moderation too much, but the best thing to do (even if you have to force yourself/get someone to help) is to give yourself limits. see if you can smoke every other day, and i bet the highs will be a lot more enjoyable too. my highs tend to get really bland if i smoke 24/7, but if i go a day or two without smoking i get high as fuck.
when you're older you'll be able to blame your mom for all of your problems, so at least you've got that to fall back on. good luck.
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I know, not smoking a J for even just 24 hours makes that next J fuck me up SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad lol its not even funny.
But no i will never blame my mother because honestly she is the best mom i could have, the nicest most caring mom ever. Shes the type i can tell ANYTHING and she will not get mad and will help me. She is the sweetest person i know and all the fucked up shit in my life is a result of my bad judgment. She has always been there for me and believed in me when other people havnt.
Actually if there is anything good/correct in my life its my mother  . <3 u mom  .
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i think letting your son grow weed at 14 is bad judgment.
maybe its a cultural difference though..
i know my parents would of beat my ass.
not saying your moms a bad mother or anything.
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United States20661 Posts
On December 21 2007 04:42 zer0das wrote:
Am I the only one who pictures Last Romantic as getting high before every KTF match? I figure it's the only way he can make it through hahahaha.
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T-T
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On December 22 2007 04:22 HeadBangaa wrote:
Hahaha that's funny.
The worst flipout I've witnessed was also form a girl. She called the cops because she "got too high" and thought she needed a medic. When the medics showed, she was stuck in a trance-like, and we were calling her name out and *SLAP* she walloped my buddy in the face. The medics looked annoyed but nobody got in trouble.
I had one bad one, but it wasn't a flip out. This was probably more due to inexperience than anything. This was within the first 3 months of me starting to smoke, when it was a once in a while thing. I went over my friends house and she was there with her brother and his gf, who were all smoking outta a bong. This would be my first time doing so~~~
Prior to this, all my experiences were J's, Blunts and bowls, so I had no idea what I was getting into. Looking back at it now, I can say it was not the right thing for a rookie haha. It was a 2 ft something ceramic bong, with a slider. The weed was some real dank haze. The guy told me to just pull and he would do the rest....so I pulled real hard like it was a bong. Then he pulled the slider out (I had no idea what this was for ><) next thing i know, I'm on the ground choking.
Shit felt like someone punched me in the gut. I went to the bathroom cuz I thought I was gonna throw up but came back in five minutes. After that I was a mess. Shit was popping out of the tv, I couldn't even sit up, let alone talk. Then everyones like, HOLY SHIT YOU'RE GREEN!. Coincidently, I felt like throwing up, so I ran to the bathroom and sure enough, I actually looked green. Threw up a few times and then passed out.
I woke up around 5 am in my boxers in my friends bed. She was more or less nekked too. Never really found out what happened that day, but yeah, that's really the only 'bad' time I've had that was soley brought on by smoking.
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good posts inky.
if weed is causing you to worry about your consumption of it, perhaps it's a good idea to experiment not smoking it. If you find out that you miss it, or it wasn't related to your problems, or whatever, go back to it! It's not like taking a month break from weed is a commitment to quitting.
I've been smoking weed since i was 14. I am 22 now. I've gone through similar periods of distress/emptiness/anxiety. My use of marijuana ranges. When i lived with my best friend for 2 years - major pothead - i smoked it nearly every day. Coincidentally these were also some of the biggest years my life as i was transitioning between a kid and an adult.
It was comforting to know that weed wasn't in control of my life. Other than my best friend (who was my age), i also smoked it with his mother, who is a very successful manager. She in turn introduced me to her circle of friends - lawyers, principals, writers, artists, doctors, nurses, all of whom smoked weed responsibly. Knowing that they were people who were in control of their lives and were more successful than i ever even hope to be and they smoked pot? I knew that the only reason i wasn't going anywhere was because a lack of my own volition. Marijuana would just have been an empty excuse.
After moving out of my best friends i pretty much stopped smoking weed altogether for about 6 months. I moved to a new city and didn't know anyone i could really buy off of, and to be honest, the change in my lifestyle was stimulating.
It's now 2 years since then, and i smoke every day again. I'm still loving life, still in control, and the responsible use of marijuana gives me satisfaction. I still work (and excel) 40 hours a week. I'm going to the gym 5 days a week. I'm distancing myself from other distractions in my life (computer games).
Treat your life responsibly. The WoW junkie that has no job and no life (but doesn't smoke weed), is no better than the pothead that sits on the couch eating chips and watching TV. If you're not where you want to be in life, figure out what steps you need to take to get there. If the majority of your time is spent on something else other than those steps - whether it be drugs, studying, video games, working, etc - then you're not satiating your dreams or desires, dicontent will (and should!) set in.
edit - i waffled a bit. marijuana is relatively harmless if you're aware of yourself and have control. Marijuana irritates the lungs (depends on how you smoke it and how big your tokes are), can bring forth a propensity to paranoia, and increases heart rate. If your lungs, heart, or brain has problems - perhaps you shouldn't irritate them further!
edit edit - now that i am actually thinking about it... i know WAY more successful potheads than unsuccessful potheads. I'm not trying to say that pot is a gateway for success, but more was just reflecting on the choice i made to surround myself with people who are stimulating, engaging, and inspiring. Since most (if not all) of the people in my life are those things, the ones that smoke pot definitely represent pot smokers exemplarily. So that's my advice: surround yourself with people who inspire you! And smoke pot with them or don't! lol
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Nice post Mora. That's more or less where I'm at now. JW, did you get drug tested for your programing job?
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I don't do programming, i'm in design. I tell the programmers what to program!
And nope! no drug tests at my company.
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Mora makes things look pretty!
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Ah cool. That's weird man, everyone tests nowadays =[
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On December 22 2007 06:01 Hawk wrote:
Ah cool. That's weird man, everyone tests nowadays =[
Hmmm... i can't remember the last time i heard of a Canadian company drug testing. Then again... i can't remember the last time anyone i knew was applying for a new job. lol
wait. like 2 years ago my friend Brendon got drug tested when he applied for a Refrigeration Technician Apprentice position. He passed! <3
On December 22 2007 06:00 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Mora makes things look pretty!
lol thanks ETT! <3
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