On January 11 2025 14:40 Vivax wrote: If my evaluation of Elon Musk is correct, he loves himself so much that he believes he‘s the Ubermensch and jerks off in a cup each morning to drink his own jizz along with his morning coffee.
He's indeed that egocentric... yet also so insecure that he has to lie about things as basic as being good at video games. That's not even the flex he thinks it is, but it's also obviously false.
You'd think the richest man in the world would care more about things that matter - like not being a deadbeat dad to a dozen children - but nope. Despite being a billionaire, he's still just a loser.
Its really incredible because he could have just not streamed himself playing a game he clearly has no idea how to play. The level of delusion you have to get to forget you don't know shit and self expose just how much of a newb you are without doing any work to cover up your shortcomings. He could have just had one of his pilots play while he talks over it and everyone would have thought he really was capable of playing poe2 hardcore while spending all his time in trumpland and as the ceo of a few companies.
And like theres nothing wrong I feel with him having a pilot or two for his account and playing at a high level in his offtime. Just be honest about it and say "yeah I don't have the time to grind but I'm special because I'm elon". We already know there are no consequences for rich people its not a surprise to us anymore.
Yeah, the interesting part is not that he lied on the internet about how good he was at a game. That’s pathetic behaviour by someone desperately in need of approval and validation but whatever. The interesting part is that he believed his own lies enough that he offered proof.
It’s also considerably more dangerous. It’s like the difference between a cult leader who tells his followers that he’s an extra dimensional alien being in order to fuck all their wives and one who genuinely starts to think that they’re an extra dimensional alien being. They’re both problems but they’re going to do different things with that power. The first one is going to move on to fucking kids or whatever. The second one is going to decide that mass human sacrifice is required for ascension.
Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
On January 12 2025 06:00 oBlade wrote: Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
This is very weird cope. You’re suggesting that in reality he’s not doing the bad thing, he’s simply no longer capable of distinguishing between his fantasy and reality, which is good.
On January 12 2025 06:00 oBlade wrote: Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
Him not wasting all his time playing video games (or being a paternal role model lol) doesn't mean he's productively spending all his time with his companies. For example, obviously he wastes some of his time running Twitter into the ground.
On January 12 2025 06:00 oBlade wrote: Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
This is very weird cope. You’re suggesting that in reality he’s not doing the bad thing, he’s simply no longer capable of distinguishing between his fantasy and reality, which is good.
By all accounts it would be better for him to be wasting all his time playing video games and shitposting on twitter instead of wrecking his companies more.
I‘d bet he bought twitter and spun Trump a story of how he‘d make a good Goebbels for him with assistance of his infested platform to further drive angry Americans to him.
It‘s not stupid at all as an approach. You got to give him that much credit. Because it also works surprisingly well and isn‘t that hard when you have that reach and AI-assisted propaganda tools like bots that suggest a majority opinion where there isn‘t one.
On January 12 2025 06:00 oBlade wrote: Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
This is very weird cope. You’re suggesting that in reality he’s not doing the bad thing, he’s simply no longer capable of distinguishing between his fantasy and reality, which is good.
By all accounts it would be better for him to be wasting all his time playing video games and shitposting on twitter instead of wrecking his companies more.
Tesla is the 7th largest company in the world, by far the most valuable car company, employs 100k, factories on 3 continents, leader in emergent self-driving technology. In 2024 Falcon 9 launched more than the entire rest of the world, including US. Starship is the heaviest lift rocket ever. Help me out here: Define what not wrecking his companies would look like.
On January 12 2025 06:00 oBlade wrote: Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
Him not wasting all his time playing video games (or being a paternal role model lol) doesn't mean he's productively spending all his time with his companies. For example, obviously he wastes some of his time running Twitter into the ground.
How do you reckon Twitter is being ran into the ground? It's just like a sports team being bought by billionaires, it's just for fun. But in this case it's more malicious because he gets to spend a narrative. He gave shelter to all comvervatives. That's not running it into the ground at all, that's solidifying himself.
On January 12 2025 06:00 oBlade wrote: Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
Him not wasting all his time playing video games (or being a paternal role model lol) doesn't mean he's productively spending all his time with his companies. For example, obviously he wastes some of his time running Twitter into the ground.
How do you reckon Twitter is being ran into the ground? It's just like a sports team being bought by billionaires, it's just for fun. But in this case it's more malicious because he gets to spend a narrative. He gave shelter to all comvervatives. That's not running it into the ground at all, that's solidifying himself.
Have you never seen sports teams run into the ground? Cos this is generally how it works. My football team was nearly destroyed by a billionaire from Kuwait taking it over a while back. It was his own vanity project, so he didn't feel the need to staff the place properly, or take care of the details that make a football team able to actually succeed at football, instead spending ridiculous amounts of money on players that would leave the club with a huge financial black hole in the future, because he thought it made him look good now. In order for us to succeed a bit, the guy had to leave and an actual football owner who knew how to run a football club needed to take over.
On January 12 2025 06:00 oBlade wrote: Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
Him not wasting all his time playing video games (or being a paternal role model lol) doesn't mean he's productively spending all his time with his companies. For example, obviously he wastes some of his time running Twitter into the ground.
How do you reckon Twitter is being ran into the ground? It's just like a sports team being bought by billionaires, it's just for fun. But in this case it's more malicious because he gets to spend a narrative. He gave shelter to all comvervatives. That's not running it into the ground at all, that's solidifying himself.
Even if he never intended to run it any other way, it's still a company that is being run into the ground, intentionally or otherwise. It used to have a few thousand employees. By all accounts it now has a few hundred. That's thousands of people out of a job because of Musk's vanity project.
Not to derail the thread, I think it fits the general concept of billionaires lying to suck up to Trump. Mark Zuckerberg recently claimed to have been forced by the US government to remove information about side effects from mRNA vaccine during the pandemic. This is of course complete bogus and he has no evidence for his claim (as he admits himself). So why would he follow in Elon's footsteps and lie? Well, he appears to have a much more pragmatic, business oriented reason than Elon. He needs to get on Trump's good side because otherwise he'll lose a lot of money over illegal business practices.
On January 12 2025 06:00 oBlade wrote: Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
Him not wasting all his time playing video games (or being a paternal role model lol) doesn't mean he's productively spending all his time with his companies. For example, obviously he wastes some of his time running Twitter into the ground.
How do you reckon Twitter is being ran into the ground?
The servers are way more unstable, there's more bots, more engagement farming, more hate speech, and people and orgs are leaving en masse for other platforms.
On January 12 2025 06:00 oBlade wrote: Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
Him not wasting all his time playing video games (or being a paternal role model lol) doesn't mean he's productively spending all his time with his companies. For example, obviously he wastes some of his time running Twitter into the ground.
How do you reckon Twitter is being ran into the ground? It's just like a sports team being bought by billionaires, it's just for fun. But in this case it's more malicious because he gets to spend a narrative. He gave shelter to all comvervatives. That's not running it into the ground at all, that's solidifying himself.
Plummeting Value: Elon Musk bought Twitter in October 2022. "In 2022, Brand Finance valued Twitter at $5.7 billion. By 2023, this dropped to nearly $3.9 billion, and by 2024, the brand’s value had fallen to $673.3 million." https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-the-decline-in-brand-value-of-x-formerly-twitter/ Not to mention the fact that Elon Musk spent $44B to buy Twitter instead of $5.7B - vastly overpaying for it.
Plummeting Daily Use: Even with the reopening of banned accounts and increase in fake accounts to inflate Musk's numbers, Twitter isn't seeing as much regular action from as many people/accounts anymore. "Use of Twitter in the US has slumped by more than a fifth since Elon Musk bought the site and rebranded it to X, according to data from app-monitoring company Sensor Tower. As of February 2024, the social network’s daily app users in America had fallen by 23% since November 2022, just after Musk completed his takeover. Every other major social network experienced a reduction in the same period, but none by anywhere near X’s drop in user numbers. The closest was TikTok, which fell by just short of 10%, while Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat all had user slumps of less than 5%, according to the data, first reported by NBC News. Globally, X fared slightly better, dropping 15% of its users to hit 174 million daily active app users, according to Sensor Tower’s data." https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/mar/26/twitter-usage-in-us-fallen-by-a-fifth-since-elon-musks-takeover
So, while I agree with you that conservatives are taking shelter on Twitter, that's not what it means to run a successful company. Instead, what he's doing is leading the deterioration of a company that used to be far more successful.
On January 12 2025 06:00 oBlade wrote: Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
This is very weird cope. You’re suggesting that in reality he’s not doing the bad thing, he’s simply no longer capable of distinguishing between his fantasy and reality, which is good.
By all accounts it would be better for him to be wasting all his time playing video games and shitposting on twitter instead of wrecking his companies more.
Tesla is the 7th largest company in the world, by far the most valuable car company, employs 100k, factories on 3 continents, leader in emergent self-driving technology. In 2024 Falcon 9 launched more than the entire rest of the world, including US. Starship is the heaviest lift rocket ever. Help me out here: Define what not wrecking his companies would look like.
That is what not wrecking his companies looks like. Spacex has succeeded by creating departments to distract him, Tesla had its first down quarter, the cybertruck is an evident disaster, Tesla is in no way a leader in self-driving I don't know where you get that drivel. You do know there are full self driving taxies out on the road right now right? Thats a feature Elon has promised repeatedly would be just over the horizon for every tesla.
I'm not going to take examples of taxpayer money enabling a private company to succeed as evidence of Elons genius. Everytime he talks about anything he shows just how little he knows about that thing.
In other words, they are wrecked because they got their first down quarter, and SpaceX is wrecked because NASA prefers them over the other shit orbital launch options in the US market, is that what wrecked means?
Or they're not wrecked at all yet, because you said he's still wrecking them, meaning it's an ongoing process, not something that's completed yet? Meaning after 20 years of being distracted while they get to the very top of each of their industries, where they are now, he's finally gotten enough power to begin destroying them which was his plan all along? So after their first down quarter they've dropped to only the 7th largest company in the world? This is the only standard you can provide for "wrecking?" Surely the end is nigh.
I'm not sure but last I checked they can lose half their market cap and be worth more than all US car manufacturers combined?
There are fully self driving taxis that can taxi you around an urban neighborhood, the way a normal taxi works. However, just like a normal taxi won't drive you from New York to Los Angeles, a self-driving taxi doesn't have that ability either. That is the kind of autonomy Tesla is going for, which is a more overarching goal from a regulatory and technology standpoint both - it's not as hard to prove city taxi software can meet/exceed human safety as it is to prove it can literally drive everywhere. Just as riding in a taxi is not necessarily better or worse than owning and maintaining a car, a company running city taxis with cars someone else made (the way Google does) is not necessarily better or worse than another company making selling entire cars that have cruise control or autopilot. They are different fields that have only partial overlap.
On January 12 2025 06:00 oBlade wrote: Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
Him not wasting all his time playing video games (or being a paternal role model lol) doesn't mean he's productively spending all his time with his companies. For example, obviously he wastes some of his time running Twitter into the ground.
How do you reckon Twitter is being ran into the ground? It's just like a sports team being bought by billionaires, it's just for fun. But in this case it's more malicious because he gets to spend a narrative. He gave shelter to all comvervatives. That's not running it into the ground at all, that's solidifying himself.
Plummeting Value: Elon Musk bought Twitter in October 2022. "In 2022, Brand Finance valued Twitter at $5.7 billion. By 2023, this dropped to nearly $3.9 billion, and by 2024, the brand’s value had fallen to $673.3 million." https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-the-decline-in-brand-value-of-x-formerly-twitter/ Not to mention the fact that Elon Musk spent $44B to buy Twitter instead of $5.7B - vastly overpaying for it.
Plummeting Daily Use: Even with the reopening of banned accounts and increase in fake accounts to inflate Musk's numbers, Twitter isn't seeing as much regular action from as many people/accounts anymore. "Use of Twitter in the US has slumped by more than a fifth since Elon Musk bought the site and rebranded it to X, according to data from app-monitoring company Sensor Tower. As of February 2024, the social network’s daily app users in America had fallen by 23% since November 2022, just after Musk completed his takeover. Every other major social network experienced a reduction in the same period, but none by anywhere near X’s drop in user numbers. The closest was TikTok, which fell by just short of 10%, while Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat all had user slumps of less than 5%, according to the data, first reported by NBC News. Globally, X fared slightly better, dropping 15% of its users to hit 174 million daily active app users, according to Sensor Tower’s data." https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/mar/26/twitter-usage-in-us-fallen-by-a-fifth-since-elon-musks-takeover
So, while I agree with you that conservatives are taking shelter on Twitter, that's not what it means to run a successful company. Instead, what he's doing is leading the deterioration of a company that used to be far more successful.
Also it's no longer Twitter. They were the name and now they don't even have that.
On January 12 2025 03:04 Sermokala wrote: Its really incredible because he could have just not streamed himself playing a game he clearly has no idea how to play. The level of delusion you have to get to forget you don't know shit and self expose just how much of a newb you are without doing any work to cover up your shortcomings. He could have just had one of his pilots play while he talks over it and everyone would have thought he really was capable of playing poe2 hardcore while spending all his time in trumpland and as the ceo of a few companies.
And like theres nothing wrong I feel with him having a pilot or two for his account and playing at a high level in his offtime. Just be honest about it and say "yeah I don't have the time to grind but I'm special because I'm elon". We already know there are no consequences for rich people its not a surprise to us anymore.
It's definitely wrong because account sharing/boosting goes against the TOS. We can also assume that RMT was involved here because the booster was Chinese and the gear was literally perfect, and of course if he doesn't care about the TOS he will put real money into the game, he is the perfect candidate for that.
On January 12 2025 06:00 oBlade wrote: Seems like rumors of him wasting all his time goofing off obsessing with playing video games while ignoring his multiple world class companies have been exaggerated after all. Good news for the employees and investors, not as good news for his detractors.
Him not wasting all his time playing video games (or being a paternal role model lol) doesn't mean he's productively spending all his time with his companies. For example, obviously he wastes some of his time running Twitter into the ground.
How do you reckon Twitter is being ran into the ground? It's just like a sports team being bought by billionaires, it's just for fun. But in this case it's more malicious because he gets to spend a narrative. He gave shelter to all comvervatives. That's not running it into the ground at all, that's solidifying himself.
Plummeting Value: Elon Musk bought Twitter in October 2022. "In 2022, Brand Finance valued Twitter at $5.7 billion. By 2023, this dropped to nearly $3.9 billion, and by 2024, the brand’s value had fallen to $673.3 million." https://www.visualcapitalist.com/visualizing-the-decline-in-brand-value-of-x-formerly-twitter/ Not to mention the fact that Elon Musk spent $44B to buy Twitter instead of $5.7B - vastly overpaying for it.
Plummeting Daily Use: Even with the reopening of banned accounts and increase in fake accounts to inflate Musk's numbers, Twitter isn't seeing as much regular action from as many people/accounts anymore. "Use of Twitter in the US has slumped by more than a fifth since Elon Musk bought the site and rebranded it to X, according to data from app-monitoring company Sensor Tower. As of February 2024, the social network’s daily app users in America had fallen by 23% since November 2022, just after Musk completed his takeover. Every other major social network experienced a reduction in the same period, but none by anywhere near X’s drop in user numbers. The closest was TikTok, which fell by just short of 10%, while Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat all had user slumps of less than 5%, according to the data, first reported by NBC News. Globally, X fared slightly better, dropping 15% of its users to hit 174 million daily active app users, according to Sensor Tower’s data." https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/mar/26/twitter-usage-in-us-fallen-by-a-fifth-since-elon-musks-takeover
So, while I agree with you that conservatives are taking shelter on Twitter, that's not what it means to run a successful company. Instead, what he's doing is leading the deterioration of a company that used to be far more successful.
Also it's no longer Twitter. They were the name and now they don't even have that.
I think it is important to have a different perspective here. Yes, Twitter is worth less and less good than it was before Musk.
But was it doing what Musk wants better? I don't think so. You don't buy a platform like that to make money. You buy it to influence people. And while probably not directly attributable to this single cause, the rise in the far right which Musk favors speaks towards the success of that attempt.
I think it is false to judge the Twitter acquisition like a normal business acquisition. Musk has money to waste. He doesn't need money to make more money. He has so much money that he can buy any item he would like to buy, immediately. Musk could come up to your house and pay you enough money to fuck your arse, and you would take it. I am pretty sure anyone would.
With that amount of money, the only thing that is still relevant to buy is influence. Get nations to do what you want. And that is what this Twitter thing is. It is not about money, it is about moving politics (which can also make you even more money, if that is really what you care about!)
I think this is pretty scary, too. A billionaire can just decide on a whim to buy a platform which is pretty important to how discourse works, and do whatever he wants with it.
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