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Billyboy
2609 Posts
28 refinery strikes at 20 unique refineries 188.8million metric ton capacity at those sites with 71.4m confirmed shutdown. 29 warehouse/storage (wild berries and competition) at least 1675900 m2 damaged or 313 American football fields 205 shadow fleet vessels and 10 more ferries and various others hit. Pretty strong 40 days. I don’t see any reason the pressure doesn’t stay or increase. | ||
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0x64
Finland4654 Posts
My bet is on continuation of this very effective strategy though. Calling for mobilization might be the moment when the duma destitute Putin and take back control and everybody starts acting like nothing happened. | ||
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Billyboy
2609 Posts
There is discontent making it to the surface now. You can see regular citizens talking shit about the government which you didn’t see a couple of years ago, so there hope. But I think we are still a ways from total collapse, or even Putin removal. | ||
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Yurie
12175 Posts
On August 05 2026 06:07 0x64 wrote: The only reason I could see, is that if they kind of stop for 2-3 month, they can resume hitting where it hurt during winter time, it would also release tension which has the double effect of making it impossible for Putin to call for mobilization, and also it feels even worse when these things starts again and nothing was done to prevent... My bet is on continuation of this very effective strategy though. Calling for mobilization might be the moment when the duma destitute Putin and take back control and everybody starts acting like nothing happened. Isn't it more likely they just tell him behind the scenes that pressure is ramping up and the war needs to end. Just need to phrase it in such a way as to not fall out of a window afterwards. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17862 Posts
I hope they can overcome this somehow... | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17862 Posts
Didn't stop them from hitting 3 refineries over the weekend. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8281 Posts
On August 10 2026 19:02 Manit0u wrote: And now supposedly Musk is denying Ukraine the use of Starlink for strikes into Russia, trying to force them into a peace deal... It seems like they can't catch a break. I do wonder how this whole conflict would look like if Trump wouldn't cut off their aid and Musk wouldn't work with Putin. Didn't stop them from hitting 3 refineries over the weekend. To my knowledge, Musk doesn't control Starlink over Ukraine. He gave that away to the DoD after receiving backlash in the early stages of the war. This shows clearly that US interests lies in ensuring the war continues. When Ukraine was on the back foot, they shut off Starlink for Russia and things took a hard turn. Now Ukraine has been pushing Russia to the brink, and suddenly US is cutting Ukraine off. The defense industry is running US global policies | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7435 Posts
On August 10 2026 21:48 Excludos wrote: To my knowledge, Musk doesn't control Starlink over Ukraine. He gave that away to the DoD after receiving backlash in the early stages of the war. This shows clearly that US interests lies in ensuring the war continues. When Ukraine was on the back foot, they shut off Starlink for Russia and things took a hard turn. Now Ukraine has been pushing Russia to the brink, and suddenly US is cutting Ukraine off. The defense industry is running US global policies Orange man must have been phoning with Putler. Lets hope Selenskyj calls soon | ||
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Billyboy
2609 Posts
MAGA is strangely swinging towards Ukraine. Apparently a lot of the far right voices are losing a lot of their impressions. And people are suggesting that with Russia hurting economically and Trump not really getting anything done for them that they are no longer boosting those accounts. For me, I just hope they are losing steam. But Laura loomer did a full 180 and is now super pro Ukraine so who knows. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17862 Posts
On August 10 2026 23:43 Billyboy wrote: Can this be sourced? It’s not on any of the news I read and the war bloggers I follow haven’t mentioned it. Sounds like it might be wishful thinking from Russia. MAGA is strangely swinging towards Ukraine. Apparently a lot of the far right voices are losing a lot of their impressions. And people are suggesting that with Russia hurting economically and Trump not really getting anything done for them that they are no longer boosting those accounts. For me, I just hope they are losing steam. But Laura loomer did a full 180 and is now super pro Ukraine so who knows. Found it here: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/08/08/8047893/ And they're quoting this as source: https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2026/08/ukraine-war-zelensky-trump/688203/ American billionaire and SpaceX owner Elon Musk is currently refusing to allow Ukraine to use Starlink satellite internet for strikes on Russian territory because he believes it is time Ukraine concluded a peace deal with Russia. Maybe Trump admin realized they bit way more than they could chew in Iran so now they're back on Ukraine/Russia peace at any cost plan? Desperately trying to bring in some kind of "win" for Big Don. | ||
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Yurie
12175 Posts
On August 11 2026 00:19 Manit0u wrote: Found it here: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/08/08/8047893/ And they're quoting this as source: https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/2026/08/ukraine-war-zelensky-trump/688203/ Uncertain if those sources are enough to confirm it true. The Atlantic is generally rated as trustworthy but behind a paywall. | ||
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Billyboy
2609 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6324 Posts
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Billyboy
2609 Posts
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ETisME
12898 Posts
That's what the new Russian drones like Geran 4 and so on have as well, as well as mesh swarm drones to do self correction under jamming. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17862 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17862 Posts
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Billyboy
2609 Posts
The bad part for Ukraine is they still have no answers for ballistics and July beat junes record for civilian casualties (most since March 2022), since Russia loves to target malls, residential buildings, church’s and so on. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17862 Posts
Let's hope they can hold. | ||
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0x64
Finland4654 Posts
So one thing that people understand that they can march all together and end this madness, they just think now that it's not worth dying for. But once you have the feeling you'll die anyway, guess what happens. | ||
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