EPTRusso-Ukrainian War Thread - Page 608
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Manit0u
Poland17694 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Also reports that Russian units are being transferred out of Tokmak in order to replenish units lost in the battles of Avdiivka. The losses are reportedly very heavy. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6336 Posts
Those reserves we said they dont have near Tokmak? Well now they are being sent to replenish the hUmAn WaVeS. Pay attention to us not Isreal-Gaza... Guys? Guys? NAFO? Anyone? Pay attention to me  Anyway, thermite/magnesium rain over Avdeevka last night: | ||
KwarK
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zeo
Serbia6336 Posts
On October 13 2023 15:48 KwarK wrote: Cope more "Russia isn't winning fast enough!" | ||
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0x64
Finland4607 Posts
I think he was just pointing out the ultralow quality of your post. Make fun of humanists all you want but Russia stayed a new suicide battle. | ||
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sertas
Sweden890 Posts
On October 13 2023 14:54 zeo wrote: Lol at the shills going into full damage control mode hysterics after two days. Switched from a 'we killed all the Russian reserves and destroyed all their artillery and tanks during our unstoppable counteroffenciyyv', to 'everything we destroyed somehow came back but we are totally destroying it again trust us guys, also dont ask about the counteroffenciyv'. Disney Star Wars writers giving it the thumbs up. Those reserves we said they dont have near Tokmak? Well now they are being sent to replenish the hUmAn WaVeS. Pay attention to us not Isreal-Gaza... Guys? Guys? NAFO? Anyone? Pay attention to me Anyway, thermite/magnesium rain over Avdeevka last night: https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1712584784256397568 No one has said any of this, this is just a strawman. We will have to wait and see if ukraine can hold this attack or if russia will break through | ||
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KwarK
United States43681 Posts
You’re not using that right. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2322 Posts
More like isnt winning at all. The same anemic advance with so much loses you would called "desaster" if it was from the ukrainian side. And if we talk about "damage control" its more from russian side because their boasting about incomming ukrainian collapse on this front is becomming less and less imminent. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17694 Posts
On October 13 2023 14:54 zeo wrote: Anyway, thermite/magnesium rain over Avdeevka last night: https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1712584784256397568 Celebrating war crimes? White phosphorus weapons are not banned, but their use in civilian areas is considered a war crime. | ||
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thePunGun
598 Posts
There's a reason these kinds of weapons aren't used anymore and it's not war crimes, the US has been using nastier stuff in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. Thermite is a lot more expensive and way less effective than any kind of precision weaponery and the only reason Russia is using them now is because they got a huge stockpile of them and they don't really have anything else to do the job. It's basically a multi million dollar "spray & pray - light show" that might catch some artillery here and there, or nothing at all. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
On October 13 2023 14:54 zeo wrote: Lol at the shills going into full damage control mode hysterics after two days. Switched from a 'we killed all the Russian reserves and destroyed all their artillery and tanks during our unstoppable counteroffenciyyv', to 'everything we destroyed somehow came back but we are totally destroying it again trust us guys, also dont ask about the counteroffenciyv'. Disney Star Wars writers giving it the thumbs up. Those reserves we said they dont have near Tokmak? Well now they are being sent to replenish the hUmAn WaVeS. Pay attention to us not Isreal-Gaza... Guys? Guys? NAFO? Anyone? Pay attention to me Anyway, thermite/magnesium rain over Avdeevka last night: https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1712584784256397568 This is what happens when you regurgitate the talking points you've been given without actually paying attention to the conversation that was happening. Literally none of what you said comes anywhere close to what was actually being talked about and how. For somebody who was so busy accusing everybody of strawmanning him just a handful of pages ago you're doing quite a lot of it yourself here. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5761 Posts
On October 13 2023 21:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Ukraine intel believes Russia has lost over 2000 soldiers in just 3 days trying to take the edges of Avdiivka, now whether these are penal battalions or ordinary armed forces is anyone's guess. Also during said attacks, whenever, a Russian BMP could be seen running over it's own soldiers during an attack... https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1712748398812496170 The Telegram post quoted by NOEL says "Storm Z" so penal battalions. | ||
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Yurie
12062 Posts
On October 13 2023 06:32 zeo wrote: Avdeevka is the most fortified town on the planet, billions were spent from 2014 building reinforced concrete fortifications and positions there, and something like 15000 soldiers are there. A full on assault is suicide, only way to take the town is to cut it off from supplies and starve the garrison out. Since 2014 its been untouchable right next to Donetsk Some maps from yesterday: A pro-Russian source: And a very cautious source that turns out to be right most of the time and posted at the same time. You can view his whole map of Ukraine here https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1V8NzjQkzMOhpuLhkktbiKgodOQ27X6IV&ll=48.15489121035866,37.91556114209466&z=9: Whats sure for both of them is that the Russians took the extremely important slag heap to the north of Avdeevka yesterday that looks over the entire town. They moved a massive amount of heavy equipment to the area and are bombing everything that moves inside the town, though the artillery systems farther from the town can work on them. That said they are aiming to pincer the supply routes to the city by going for the villages of Sjeverne and Berdychi. Very heavy fighting with attacks and counterattacks and lost equipment on both sides, Informational suppression going on and obviously a lot of stuffing and propaganda from all sides. Avdeevka was created to be lynchpin fortress and taking it will be a slow and very bloody process even if the Russians manage to cut off the supply routes within the next week. Just want to comment that this was a good post. Please do more of this type of posting.  | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
On October 14 2023 02:52 Yurie wrote: Just want to comment that this was a good post. Please do more of this type of posting. I will encourage you to expand on why you think the post was good? | ||
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ZeroByte13
785 Posts
On October 14 2023 03:58 Ghostcom wrote: Maybe because it has more than one source? Just a guess, of course...I will encourage you to expand on why you think the post was good? | ||
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KwarK
United States43681 Posts
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Yurie
12062 Posts
On October 14 2023 03:58 Ghostcom wrote: I will encourage you to expand on why you think the post was good? It started with history of the situation which seems to contain a bit of hyperbole but is still reasonable. There was an explanation of the current status as understood, which also seems accurate from what I know. Then finally a prediction on what can happen, which is a possible discussion topic. In this case that taking the city will be hard and requires cutting of the supply roads, not certain to happen. It was not a Russian or Ukrainian propaganda piece or focused on a specific small detail. Detail discussions are also good and interesting but are hard to find proper sources for in the middle of a war. They are also hard to find discussions on since the topic for engagement is narrow. | ||
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KwarK
United States43681 Posts
On October 14 2023 05:56 Yurie wrote: It started with history of the situation which seems to contain a bit of hyperbole but is still reasonable. There was an explanation of the current status as understood, which also seems accurate from what I know. Then finally a prediction on what can happen, which is a possible discussion topic. In this case that taking the city will be hard and requires cutting of the supply roads, not certain to happen. It was not a Russian or Ukrainian propaganda piece or focused on a specific small detail. Ukrainians still have the territory designated as taken. The basic problem with it isn’t the structure of the post, it’s that the content is fictional. This assault has been Russia’s biggest catastrophe of the year to date. Literally everything zeo posts is from propaganda sources. | ||
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