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On November 05 2010 03:18 Hier wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 03:13 Aeres wrote:I didn't want to make another thread for this, so I apologize for the necro, but I thought this information was fascinating. Apparently, 2012 may not be the date that brings about the end of times. A recent research study says that a conversion error between the Gregorian calendar (our standard calendar) and the Mayan calendar may have occurred, due to a misallocation of the GMT constant. A constant based on astronomical events that was devised by several Mayan scholars in past years, the GMT constant's veracity has been disputed by one Gerardo Aldana, who claims that certain weaknesses in the establishment of the GMT make the argument fall apart "like a stack of cards". According to Aldana, the correction he's made to the GMT constant would place the "end of the world" date 50 to 100 years after 2012. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=11926347What now?! But they already made a movie about it! Really, I don't think anybody sane actually believed the world was going to end on that exact date. It was interesting poking fun at the Mayan calendar, now this is becoming plain silly.
Since 45 percent of North American are "sane" enough to believe that God has created the earth in 7 days 4000 years ago, I wouldn't be that surprised if some people really believed that some precolombian people's superstition can tell us about the end of the world.
Obviously, we can also say that all of this people are not very sane anyway, but 40 percent, that's enough to consider US as basically a huge asylum, which would be exagerated. Maybe.
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2012 was never the beginning of the end of the world, it's something much more fascinating.
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On November 05 2010 03:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 03:18 Hier wrote:On November 05 2010 03:13 Aeres wrote:I didn't want to make another thread for this, so I apologize for the necro, but I thought this information was fascinating. Apparently, 2012 may not be the date that brings about the end of times. A recent research study says that a conversion error between the Gregorian calendar (our standard calendar) and the Mayan calendar may have occurred, due to a misallocation of the GMT constant. A constant based on astronomical events that was devised by several Mayan scholars in past years, the GMT constant's veracity has been disputed by one Gerardo Aldana, who claims that certain weaknesses in the establishment of the GMT make the argument fall apart "like a stack of cards". According to Aldana, the correction he's made to the GMT constant would place the "end of the world" date 50 to 100 years after 2012. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=11926347What now?! But they already made a movie about it! Really, I don't think anybody sane actually believed the world was going to end on that exact date. It was interesting poking fun at the Mayan calendar, now this is becoming plain silly. Since 45 percent of North American are "sane" enough to believe that God has created the earth in 7 days 4000 years ago...
lol, two fails :D. It didn't happen 4000yrs ago obiviously and god did it in 6 days and rested 7th day ._.
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Religious debate oh no
hi wall
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I don't believe in the end of the world but if it happens I sure with we had a mars colony.
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We can always hope it ends so we would get rid of these apocalypse - end of the world - idiots.
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On November 05 2010 03:32 Welmu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 03:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 05 2010 03:18 Hier wrote:On November 05 2010 03:13 Aeres wrote:I didn't want to make another thread for this, so I apologize for the necro, but I thought this information was fascinating. Apparently, 2012 may not be the date that brings about the end of times. A recent research study says that a conversion error between the Gregorian calendar (our standard calendar) and the Mayan calendar may have occurred, due to a misallocation of the GMT constant. A constant based on astronomical events that was devised by several Mayan scholars in past years, the GMT constant's veracity has been disputed by one Gerardo Aldana, who claims that certain weaknesses in the establishment of the GMT make the argument fall apart "like a stack of cards". According to Aldana, the correction he's made to the GMT constant would place the "end of the world" date 50 to 100 years after 2012. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=11926347What now?! But they already made a movie about it! Really, I don't think anybody sane actually believed the world was going to end on that exact date. It was interesting poking fun at the Mayan calendar, now this is becoming plain silly. Since 45 percent of North American are "sane" enough to believe that God has created the earth in 7 days 4000 years ago... lol, two fails :D. It didn't happen 4000yrs ago obiviously and god did it in 6 days and rested 7th day ._.
Oh, come on.
I doubt God was free lancing, so we can assume he was paid for the whole week. Oh wait. When did they invent the whole annual leave thing?
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only 2 christmas mornings to go?!? 
i doubt its true, but if it is ill be 18 i die a man :D
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On November 05 2010 03:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 03:18 Hier wrote:On November 05 2010 03:13 Aeres wrote:I didn't want to make another thread for this, so I apologize for the necro, but I thought this information was fascinating. Apparently, 2012 may not be the date that brings about the end of times. A recent research study says that a conversion error between the Gregorian calendar (our standard calendar) and the Mayan calendar may have occurred, due to a misallocation of the GMT constant. A constant based on astronomical events that was devised by several Mayan scholars in past years, the GMT constant's veracity has been disputed by one Gerardo Aldana, who claims that certain weaknesses in the establishment of the GMT make the argument fall apart "like a stack of cards". According to Aldana, the correction he's made to the GMT constant would place the "end of the world" date 50 to 100 years after 2012. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=11926347What now?! But they already made a movie about it! Really, I don't think anybody sane actually believed the world was going to end on that exact date. It was interesting poking fun at the Mayan calendar, now this is becoming plain silly. Since 45 percent of North American are "sane" enough to believe that God has created the earth in 7 days 4000 years ago, I wouldn't be that surprised if some people really believed that some precolombian people's superstition can tell us about the end of the world. Obviously, we can also say that all of this people are not very sane anyway, but 40 percent, that's enough to consider US as basically a huge asylum, which would be exagerated. Maybe.
If you're gonna act like a smartass at least know your facts. Makes you look more credible.
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$10 says the date will be revised again in 100 years.
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It's only a big deal because people make it a big deal. More scientifically based doom days have passed and no one ever said shit.
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How can ANY calendar predict the end of "the world"...
I'll die of old age and nothing is going to change 
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The mayans could predict the world would end in 2012 but couldnt predict fruit dealer getting knocked out of the GSL in the ro32, i call shenanigans.
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On November 05 2010 03:31 Trizz wrote:
2012 was never the beginning of the end of the world, it's something much more fascinating.
maybe its a zombie apocalipse !
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On November 05 2010 03:45 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 03:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 05 2010 03:18 Hier wrote:On November 05 2010 03:13 Aeres wrote:I didn't want to make another thread for this, so I apologize for the necro, but I thought this information was fascinating. Apparently, 2012 may not be the date that brings about the end of times. A recent research study says that a conversion error between the Gregorian calendar (our standard calendar) and the Mayan calendar may have occurred, due to a misallocation of the GMT constant. A constant based on astronomical events that was devised by several Mayan scholars in past years, the GMT constant's veracity has been disputed by one Gerardo Aldana, who claims that certain weaknesses in the establishment of the GMT make the argument fall apart "like a stack of cards". According to Aldana, the correction he's made to the GMT constant would place the "end of the world" date 50 to 100 years after 2012. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=11926347What now?! But they already made a movie about it! Really, I don't think anybody sane actually believed the world was going to end on that exact date. It was interesting poking fun at the Mayan calendar, now this is becoming plain silly. Since 45 percent of North American are "sane" enough to believe that God has created the earth in 7 days 4000 years ago, I wouldn't be that surprised if some people really believed that some precolombian people's superstition can tell us about the end of the world. Obviously, we can also say that all of this people are not very sane anyway, but 40 percent, that's enough to consider US as basically a huge asylum, which would be exagerated. Maybe. If you're gonna act like a smartass at least know your facts. Makes you look more credible.
You know, the more I think about it, and the more I am absolutely sure that you got my point.
Now you are the one trying to be a smartass with this random flamming on a point you didn't even make yourself. By the way, I could do exactly the same comment to your post by saying that theses are, precisely no facts, but beliefs. Have a nice one.
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This is ridiculous. The Mayans never predicted that the world will end at the end of 2012.
This is a misinterpretation of the Mayan prophecy.
This. Is. A. Misinterpretation. Of. The. Mayan. Prophecy.
This false myth arose from the fact that the Mayan calendar happens to reset on December 21, 2012.
The significance of this cycle's end is NOT the destruction of... anything. Well, besides ignorance.
The Mayan prophecy, which coincides with many other Native American tribal beliefs, is that we will reach our peak of enlightenment and consciousness on December 21, 2012.
"We may thus liken the evolution of consciousness to the climb of a cosmic pyramid that took its beginning already at the Big Bang 16 billion years ago. This climb is designed to take us to the ninth and highest level where a non-dualist perception of the world will be brought to us. ... By October 28, 2011 all of these Underworlds will be coming to their completion and so there is every reason to believe that the year 2012 will be a year when a new reality settles, a reality where the experience of linear time has come to an end and the consciousness altering cycles that are still today driving the evolution of human history will come to an end. "
~http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_3_1.htm
If you want information on how the Mayan calendar actually was created, check this site out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_Long_Count_calendar#Correlations_between_Western_calendars_and_the_Long_Count_calendar
Basically, the year 2012 is the end of the 12th b'ak'tun, which is simply an interval of time for the Mayan calendar; every few b'ak'tuns represents a creation cycle. Once the 13th b'ak'tun starts (the end of 2012), it will represent an entire new creation cycle. This does NOT mean that everything will be *wiped out*; the cycle resetting is something that Mayans looked FORWARD to.
""For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Fla. To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in.""
~http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2007-03-27-maya-2012_n.htm
Think of it this way: The end of a b'ak'tun is like the end of a month or a season, and the end of a creation cycle is analogous to the end of a calendar year. After each calendar year, we make New Year's resolutions and *attempt* to work on our weaknesses and problems during the span of the next year. Similarly, the end of each creation cycle posits that we have been attempting to gain a deeper understanding of ourselves (i.e. working out our resolutions), and it's assumed that at the end of THIS cycle (2012), we will have actually reached enlightenment. No more New Year's resolutions are necessary!
Here are very good references for those interested in learning more about the Mayan 2012 myth (besides the ones I've cited above):
http://www.13moon.com/prophecy page.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_mythology
http://www.adishakti.org/mayan_end_times_prophecy_12-21-2012.htm
The (non-existent) Mayan destruction myth itself was probably a misinterpretation of the Mayan prophecy, coupled with the fact that some pretty cool astronomical phenomena might occur within a few years. And the fact that the Bible and other texts also prophesize an eventual cataclysm that will destroy everything. The Mayans did NOT prophesize a huge meteor crashing into Earth during the end of 2012, or anything like that.
Silly people, misinterpreting other stories in order to find evidence for their religious beliefs. Got Rapture?
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On November 05 2010 03:55 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 03:45 GreEny K wrote:On November 05 2010 03:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 05 2010 03:18 Hier wrote:On November 05 2010 03:13 Aeres wrote:I didn't want to make another thread for this, so I apologize for the necro, but I thought this information was fascinating. Apparently, 2012 may not be the date that brings about the end of times. A recent research study says that a conversion error between the Gregorian calendar (our standard calendar) and the Mayan calendar may have occurred, due to a misallocation of the GMT constant. A constant based on astronomical events that was devised by several Mayan scholars in past years, the GMT constant's veracity has been disputed by one Gerardo Aldana, who claims that certain weaknesses in the establishment of the GMT make the argument fall apart "like a stack of cards". According to Aldana, the correction he's made to the GMT constant would place the "end of the world" date 50 to 100 years after 2012. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=11926347What now?! But they already made a movie about it! Really, I don't think anybody sane actually believed the world was going to end on that exact date. It was interesting poking fun at the Mayan calendar, now this is becoming plain silly. Since 45 percent of North American are "sane" enough to believe that God has created the earth in 7 days 4000 years ago, I wouldn't be that surprised if some people really believed that some precolombian people's superstition can tell us about the end of the world. Obviously, we can also say that all of this people are not very sane anyway, but 40 percent, that's enough to consider US as basically a huge asylum, which would be exagerated. Maybe. If you're gonna act like a smartass at least know your facts. Makes you look more credible. You know, the more I think about it, and the more I am absolutely sure that you got my point. Now you are the one trying to be a smartass with this random flamming on a point you didn't even make yourself. By the way, I could do exactly the same comment to your post by saying that theses are, precisely no facts, but beliefs. Have a nice one.
So be it, even if they are "Beliefs" they are commonly held beliefs. And if I go into a thread or conversation and throw in some incorrect facts the same thing would happen.
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On November 05 2010 03:58 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 03:55 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 05 2010 03:45 GreEny K wrote:On November 05 2010 03:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 05 2010 03:18 Hier wrote:On November 05 2010 03:13 Aeres wrote:I didn't want to make another thread for this, so I apologize for the necro, but I thought this information was fascinating. Apparently, 2012 may not be the date that brings about the end of times. A recent research study says that a conversion error between the Gregorian calendar (our standard calendar) and the Mayan calendar may have occurred, due to a misallocation of the GMT constant. A constant based on astronomical events that was devised by several Mayan scholars in past years, the GMT constant's veracity has been disputed by one Gerardo Aldana, who claims that certain weaknesses in the establishment of the GMT make the argument fall apart "like a stack of cards". According to Aldana, the correction he's made to the GMT constant would place the "end of the world" date 50 to 100 years after 2012. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=11926347What now?! But they already made a movie about it! Really, I don't think anybody sane actually believed the world was going to end on that exact date. It was interesting poking fun at the Mayan calendar, now this is becoming plain silly. Since 45 percent of North American are "sane" enough to believe that God has created the earth in 7 days 4000 years ago, I wouldn't be that surprised if some people really believed that some precolombian people's superstition can tell us about the end of the world. Obviously, we can also say that all of this people are not very sane anyway, but 40 percent, that's enough to consider US as basically a huge asylum, which would be exagerated. Maybe. If you're gonna act like a smartass at least know your facts. Makes you look more credible. You know, the more I think about it, and the more I am absolutely sure that you got my point. Now you are the one trying to be a smartass with this random flamming on a point you didn't even make yourself. By the way, I could do exactly the same comment to your post by saying that theses are, precisely no facts, but beliefs. Have a nice one. So be it, even if they are "Beliefs" they are commonly held beliefs. And if I go into a thread or conversation and throw in some incorrect facts the same thing would happen.
Commonly held beliefs =/= Facts
Case in point:
Commonly held belief: The Earth is 6000 years old (Young Earth Creationism)
Fact: The Earth is around 4.5 billion years old (Science)
There's no reason to respect beliefs unless they're based around fact.
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Lots of people who ordinarily wouldn't will get laid next New Year's!
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On November 05 2010 03:58 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 03:55 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 05 2010 03:45 GreEny K wrote:On November 05 2010 03:28 Biff The Understudy wrote:On November 05 2010 03:18 Hier wrote:On November 05 2010 03:13 Aeres wrote:I didn't want to make another thread for this, so I apologize for the necro, but I thought this information was fascinating. Apparently, 2012 may not be the date that brings about the end of times. A recent research study says that a conversion error between the Gregorian calendar (our standard calendar) and the Mayan calendar may have occurred, due to a misallocation of the GMT constant. A constant based on astronomical events that was devised by several Mayan scholars in past years, the GMT constant's veracity has been disputed by one Gerardo Aldana, who claims that certain weaknesses in the establishment of the GMT make the argument fall apart "like a stack of cards". According to Aldana, the correction he's made to the GMT constant would place the "end of the world" date 50 to 100 years after 2012. Source: http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=11926347What now?! But they already made a movie about it! Really, I don't think anybody sane actually believed the world was going to end on that exact date. It was interesting poking fun at the Mayan calendar, now this is becoming plain silly. Since 45 percent of North American are "sane" enough to believe that God has created the earth in 7 days 4000 years ago, I wouldn't be that surprised if some people really believed that some precolombian people's superstition can tell us about the end of the world. Obviously, we can also say that all of this people are not very sane anyway, but 40 percent, that's enough to consider US as basically a huge asylum, which would be exagerated. Maybe. If you're gonna act like a smartass at least know your facts. Makes you look more credible. You know, the more I think about it, and the more I am absolutely sure that you got my point. Now you are the one trying to be a smartass with this random flamming on a point you didn't even make yourself. By the way, I could do exactly the same comment to your post by saying that theses are, precisely no facts, but beliefs. Have a nice one. So be it, even if they are "Beliefs" they are commonly held beliefs. And if I go into a thread or conversation and throw in some incorrect facts the same thing would happen.
Again?
My point was that 40 percent of american believe in creationism, which is at least as mad as believing in this Maya bullcrap. Not that God created earth in 6 or 7 days since he actually didn't.
If you want to discuss if god didn't create the world 4000 or 6000 years ago, do it with someone else, but I'm sure we both have better things to do.
Geez.
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