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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
Everyone please realize, space is 3 dimensional. The planets might align(or come close) in one dimension but there is still another dimension required for them to align in a straight line. This absolutely will not happen in 2012 nor will it likely ever happen during the entire span of the existence of this solar system. | ||
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LedFarmer
United States161 Posts
On March 14 2011 03:45 Aoi SCV wrote: Why do people think that magic happens when planets/galaxy centres/whatever, are in a straight line? Seriously? Are you even able to predict the consequences of the simplest everyday events? Do you think that magic happens when the milk lines up with the butter in the fridge also? Or do magic only happen to celestial bodies? I don't know about you, but when the milk and butter in my fridge lines up, buttermilk pancakes magically appear about 15 minutes later! (Only happens on Sunday sadly  ) | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On March 14 2011 03:13 Consolidate wrote: So you're saying that belief in economic theory in general is 'ridiculous'? Look at Japan's rebuilding after WWII Look at China's progress resulting from Deng's economic reforms. You would have them starving in mud huts. No, I'm not saying economy as a whole is ridiculous, but economy carry some belief about the purpose of life and how money alone will build a better world. And history prove that it's wrong, having more money does not mean the end of poverty, and everybody knows that money will not makes you happy. It's a myth, and if you look at history, those belief are tainted with religious perspectiv (you can make the list, almost all the fathers of economy are religious). | ||
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rel
Guam3521 Posts
On March 14 2011 03:56 travis wrote: The planets aren't going to be in a straight line anyways. Everyone please realize, space is 3 dimensional. The planets might align(or come close) in one dimension but there is still another dimension required for them to align in a straight line. This absolutely will not happen in 2012 nor will it likely ever happen during the entire span of the existence of this solar system. Always loved Travis's posts, and here he throws out another masterpiece of awesome common sense, lost by many. Travis is the bessst.  | ||
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TALegion
United States1187 Posts
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Aoi SCV
Sweden10 Posts
On March 14 2011 03:56 travis wrote: Everyone please realize, space is 3 dimensional. The planets might align(or come close) in one dimension but there is still another dimension required for them to align in a straight line. I'm not sure I understand you, but it is certainly possible for the planets to align in a straight line. The solar system is reasonably planar, so they are already "aligned" in two dimensions. | ||
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nigritude
83 Posts
On March 14 2011 04:07 WhiteDog wrote: No, I'm not saying economy as a whole is ridiculous, but economy carry some belief about the purpose of life and how money alone will build a better world. And history prove that it's wrong, having more money does not mean the end of poverty, and everybody knows that money will not makes you happy. It's a myth, and if you look at history, those belief are tainted with religious perspectiv (you can make the list, almost all the fathers of economy are religious). i think it is so hilarious that i get temp banned for saying stuff like "lolwut" and "r u srs dawg" when the stuff written in this quote is so much worse. first of all, how exactly are you using the term "money"? do you mean paper money or do you mean what money actually signifies, i.e., production? if paper money, then no shit, having more money does not end poverty. if production, then how does having more production not end poverty? poverty is the lack of material goods and services. if you have more production, i.e., more money, you no longer have poverty. and look at this blanket statement of, "everybody knows that money will not make you happy." now you are being unclear on, not just one term, but two. what do you mean by happy? and again, by money, do you mean just having a huge wad of paper money under your mattress or are you referring to the things money actually signifies? and who are you referring to as the "fathers of economy" ... | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On March 14 2011 04:09 rel wrote: Always loved Travis's posts, and here he throws out another masterpiece of awesome common sense, lost by many. Travis is the bessst. True, Travis is usually the voice of common sense in threads such as this, just as Chill has been the voice of common sense in every girl blog on tl since at least 2003. | ||
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AraMoOse
Canada66 Posts
Also with respect to the comment from Travis ; a. It entirely depends on what you mean by a dimension, but i'm fairly certain most physicists would disagree that our universe is limited to 3 dimensions. You might do slightly better by positing three SPATIAL dimensions, but I'm fairly certain this also conflicts with the current model. b. It remains fairly easy to align three objects in a straight line in a three dimensional universe, I don't see what Travis is on about. I just lined up my mouse, my keyboard and my speaker, yet no matter engulfing vortex has appeared. You can try this at home too! c. Given the relatively flat 'shape' of our galaxy, and given that the earth rotates around the sun, the 'straight line' should happen essentially once every year (slightly more or less than a year because the sun also moves relative to the center of the galaxy.) So if an alignment means the end of the world, then it should have ended every single year since it's formation. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On March 14 2011 04:26 nigritude wrote: i think it is so hilarious that i get temp banned for saying stuff like "lolwut" and "r u srs dawg" when the stuff written in this quote is so much worse. first of all, how exactly are you using the term "money"? do you mean paper money or do you mean what money actually signifies, i.e., production? if paper money, then no shit, having more money does not end poverty. if production, then how does having more production not end poverty? poverty is the lack of material goods and services. if you have more production, i.e., more money, you no longer have poverty. and look at this blanket statement of, "everybody knows that money will not make you happy." now you are being unclear on, not just one term, but two. what do you mean by happy? and again, by money, do you mean just having a huge wad of paper money under your mattress or are you referring to the things money actually signifies? and who are you referring to as the "fathers of economy" ... You're serious ? Money does not mean production, are you a troll ? Money is money man, $$. Having more does not mean the end of poverty, it's also a question of distribution, I mean come on, that's pretty simple to know that in world where 95% of the wealth is in the hand of what 10% of the people ? (don't know the exact stats) I'm not gonna argue about happiness, you can read some work about that, you need a certain amount of money to be happy, but having more than a certain amount will not help you achieve happiness faster. And by happyness I mean "a mental state of well-being characterized by positive emotions ranging from contentment to intense joy", but maybe you don't know that since you're such a troll. And the fathers of economy, well the one that built the damn science ? Montchretien, aristote, thomas more, john hales who cares, they were all philosopher / moralist / religious. Heck Adam Smith, the first fully "economist" was a philosopher in moral philosophy. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
On March 14 2011 00:59 Penke wrote: How can the world possibly end in 2012 when i have a youghurt that expires in 2013? What if 2012 is just the rapture, leaving 2013 to be the year of those left behind and their yoghurt? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On March 14 2011 04:18 Aoi SCV wrote: I'm not sure I understand you, but it is certainly possible for the planets to align in a straight line. The solar system is reasonably planar, so they are already "aligned" in two dimensions. the solar system might be "reasonably" planar but it's far from flat... regardless of what you say the planets aren't going to align in a straight line at all, probably not ever and even though the solar system is "reasonably" planar as you say, some of the planets are quite a bit on their own planes, with quite a bit different skews to their trajectories I'd expect you already know this so I don't see why you are arguing with a good point that I made | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On March 14 2011 04:15 TALegion wrote: SO MUCH SHIT is gonna go down the week before 2012. It'll either be a dreadful or HILARIOUS year. the shit will go down in december, as the world is scheduled to end just before christmas. Probably nothing will happen, but hey if their is looting and shooting going on i will most definitely be in. | ||
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Ryndika
1489 Posts
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HavoK.
United States172 Posts
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Aoi SCV
Sweden10 Posts
On March 14 2011 05:04 travis wrote: and even though the solar system is "reasonably" planar as you say, some of the planets are quite a bit on their own planes, with quite a bit different skews to their trajectories I'd expect you already know this so I don't see why you are arguing with a good point that I made Maybe a "reasonable straight" line is enough to make magic happen? =) I think the way the term is used is when the planets form a straight line "as seen from above" and the accuracy with which the planets are supposed to be aligned is rather low. That means that there is already an approximation involved, one that is worse (I guess) than assuming that all of the planet lie perfectly in a plane. I'm not used to post on forums in English, I hope I make sense. =) | ||
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ShamTao
United States419 Posts
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nigritude
83 Posts
On March 14 2011 04:58 WhiteDog wrote: You're serious ? Money does not mean production, are you a troll ? Money is money man, $$. Having more does not mean the end of poverty, it's also a question of distribution, I mean come on, that's pretty simple to know that in world where 95% of the wealth is in the hand of what 10% of the people ? (don't know the exact stats) I'm not gonna argue about happiness, you can read some work about that, you need a certain amount of money to be happy, but having more than a certain amount will not help you achieve happiness faster. And by happyness I mean "a mental state of well-being characterized by positive emotions ranging from contentment to intense joy", but maybe you don't know that since you're such a troll. And the fathers of economy, well the one that built the damn science ? Montchretien, aristote, thomas more, john hales who cares, they were all philosopher / moralist / religious. Heck Adam Smith, the first fully "economist" was a philosopher in moral philosophy. is the reason why 95% of the posts on TL about economics deserve a "lolwut" | ||
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Grummler
Germany743 Posts
Also: I am only 24 years old, but i already survived three of these "the world will end"-dates. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
If it's merely supposed to be a time of change, you have to assume they felt there would be more "change" in that year/day than all of those previous years? It's as if someone has a time machine and is just trolling current era's. Rambling; simply find it all very interesting. | ||
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